Letters to the Editor - Letters

Letters to the Editor - Letters

There are 18 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 27, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Letters. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Zero-impact vacation homes like Fanger Estate comprise 80 percent of the 2,000 unlicensed rentals on Oahu .

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Rong Regina

Honolulu, HI

#1 Aug 27, 2009
Interesting how some 1/64th part Hawaiian in 2009, can have the audacity to reach way back into history, over more than 166 years, and think their miniscule Hawaiian blood allows them that special gift to read the mind of Kamehameha III and what he meant.

Ea means life.

That's what Kamehameha III said.

He meant what he said.

Not what Regina or her under-educated, historical revisionists imagine what Ea means.

It means "Life."

If Kamehameha III wanted to say "Sovereignty," he would have said that.

You see, Regina, that is what words are all about. You use words to communicate ideas about what that word means.

Only you folks go around telling everybody that this word means something else, because you want to drag all the rest of us into restoring the corrupt, foreign, european-import concept of a monarchy, aped by the rulers that drove the kingdom into debt and ripped off the common native Hawaiian tenants in and since the mahele of 1848.
Nalo Boy

Ewa Beach, HI

#2 Aug 27, 2009
Both Jesus and Kamehameha the III wanted the super ferry. That is in the bible and in an historical quote from he good King.

Oh yeah, Jesus once walked from Honolulu to San Francisco and Kamehameha III went to Punahou and played his college football at Notre Dame.
Ouch

Honolulu, HI

#3 Aug 27, 2009
With the Democrats getting slaughtered -- or should I say, "receiving mandatory end-of-life counseling" -- in the debate over national health care, the Obama administration has decided to change the subject by indicting CIA interrogators for talking tough to three of the world's leading Muslim terrorists.

Had I been asked, I would have advised them against reinforcing the idea that Democrats are hysterical bed-wetters who can't be trusted with national defense while also reminding people of the one thing everyone still admires about President George W. Bush.

But I guess the Democrats really want to change the subject. Thus, here is Part 2 in our series of liberal lies about national health care.

(6) There will be no rationing under national health care.

Anyone who says that is a liar. And all Democrats are saying it.(Hey, look -- I have two-thirds of a syllogism!)

Apparently, promising to cut costs by having a panel of Washington bureaucrats (for short, "The Death Panel") deny medical treatment wasn't a popular idea with most Americans. So liberals started claiming that they are going to cover an additional 47 million uninsured Americans and cut costs ... without ever denying a single medical treatment!
TRUTHSAYER

Kailua, HI

#4 Aug 27, 2009
Concerning Will Page's letter:
The facts are; unlicensed vacation rentals are illegal.
Neighbors in residential neighborhoods do not like, or want any more of them.
AND obviously Rod Tam, Chairman of The Honolulu City Council committee looking into this matter for the past several years is too enamored with his bully pulpit, and free lobbyist dinners to actually do something meaningful in order to protect our residential neighborhoods from these illegal vacation rental profit takers.
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#5 Aug 27, 2009
Re: "Jesus reference gets a reaction," Arg Bacon, Honolulu

Well, we're getting a bit better in the Biblical interpretation department. But in the full context of the passage, as well as in the full context of Chapter 25, Christ is admonishing individual preparation for coming judgement.
History Made Easy

Mililani, HI

#6 Aug 27, 2009
Nalo Boy wrote:
Both Jesus and Kamehameha the III wanted the super ferry. That is in the bible and in an historical quote from he good King.
Oh yeah, Jesus once walked from Honolulu to San Francisco and Kamehameha III went to Punahou and played his college football at Notre Dame.
Your facts are a little mixed up. Obama *can* walk on water, but he went to Punahou.

Well, OK, he *used to* be able to walk on water. But lately, that water has become thin ice, and he's been slipping and falling.
Soylent Green Reality

Honolulu, HI

#7 Aug 27, 2009
Population control at both ends of the spectrum.

Killing babies and Seniors :(

Especially vulnerable in the Soylent Green Agenda are the 80 million baby boomers born between 1946 and 1964. "If you belong to that group, take note," says author Richard Poe,

"Your generation has been targeted for a program of age-based medical rationing such as our country has never before experienced."

Adds Whistleblower Editor David Kupelian, "If this dire end-of-life scenario sounds too awful to be possible, that is only because the reality of Obamacare has not been sufficiently reported. For this is not a fantasy – it is what is already occurring in other 'civilized' nations, including Canada and Britain, that have adopted the same government-run system."

For instance, the cover story, "Medical Murder," documents how British seniors, under a government-run system, "are routinely denied treatment for cancer, heart disease and other deadly illnesses," many dying "in filthy, overcrowded hospitals or nursing homes, rife with pestilence, including the deadly, antibiotic-resistant superbugs." Numerous horror stories of needed medical care intentionally denied reveal the stark reality of government-run health care worldwide.

To a small degree, Obamacare's ominous implications are starting to leak out. Here's how columnist Charlotte Allen explained it recently in the Los Angeles Times:

In looking for a way to fund healthcare, Obama has set his eye on the oldest and sickest. You see, according to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, about 30 percent of Medicare spending – nearly $100 billion annually – goes to care for patients during their last year of life. What if there were no 'last year of life,' the president seems to be asking....[W]hy not save billions of dollars by killing off our own unproductive oldsters and terminal patients, or – since we aren't likely to do that outright in this, the 21st century – why not simply ensure that they die faster by denying them costly medical care? The savings could then subsidize care for the younger and healthier.
And for those who have been paying close attention, Obama himself has ever-so-gently hinted at his true intentions. At a town hall event in June televised by ABC News, Obama cited the case of his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, who died on the eve of his election, suggesting one way to cut medical costs would be to stop expensive procedures on people about to die.

Families, Obama said, need better information so they don't approve "additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care."

"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller," the president offered.
elaine

United States

#8 Aug 27, 2009
I wish I fully understood exactly what it is that the Hawaiians do not like about statehood and I wish I fully understood exactly what it is that the Hawaiians want.Sigh
Rong Regina

Honolulu, HI

#9 Aug 27, 2009
elaine wrote:
I wish I fully understood exactly what it is that the Hawaiians do not like about statehood and I wish I fully understood exactly what it is that the Hawaiians want.Sigh
This may help you. Alot of these folks who claim to be "Hawaiian" are not Hawaiian.

Among those of that group, some are acutally Hawaiian. However, this particular subset is under-educated about 1) how corrupt the monarchy was; 2) the monarchy ripped off the common native tenants in the mahele of 1849; 3) that the concept of a monarchy, is a foreign european import idea and not native Hawaiian at all; 4) having accomplished nothing significant in life, they take out their pent up frurstation of their own inadequacies and externalize them and focus them on the United States.

Of course, there is also the interesting phenomena of those who have made it a career to cater, milk and foster this festering "blame the the USA" for everything wrong in their miserable failure of a life.

OHA and the UH Manoa Center for Hawaiian Studies (and un-American activities) are good examples of these "professional" freeloaders getting paid your tax dollars to cultivate a whole misguided generation too clueless that we have it pretty good under the US, as compared to how the common native Hawaiian was cheated under the kingdom.

"The Life of the Freeloader is Perpetrated in OHA"
whoever

Honolulu, HI

#10 Aug 27, 2009
Wow, It's been a whole hour and nobody replied to Rong Regina's concise and accurate response to Elaine. Just wait until the un-bunching of the panties is done, then the abuse and name calling starts.
elaine

United States

#11 Aug 27, 2009
I'm surprized to whatever. Perhaps the many Hawaiian groups have to meet first before they form an answer on behalf of their soverignty or perhaps Senator Akaka or President Obama could speak on their behalf. Didn't they just have a convention?
Truth is a hard thing to speak.
Bob

AOL

#12 Aug 27, 2009
Soylent Green Reality wrote:
Population control at both ends of the spectrum.
Killing babies and Seniors :(
Especially vulnerable in the Soylent Green Agenda are the 80 million baby boomers born between 1946 and 1964. "If you belong to that group, take note," says author Richard Poe,
"Your generation has been targeted for a program of age-based medical rationing such as our country has never before experienced."
Adds Whistleblower Editor David Kupelian, "If this dire end-of-life scenario sounds too awful to be possible, that is only because the reality of Obamacare has not been sufficiently reported. For this is not a fantasy – it is what is already occurring in other 'civilized' nations, including Canada and Britain, that have adopted the same government-run system."
For instance, the cover story, "Medical Murder," documents how British seniors, under a government-run system, "are routinely denied treatment for cancer, heart disease and other deadly illnesses," many dying "in filthy, overcrowded hospitals or nursing homes, rife with pestilence, including the deadly, antibiotic-resistant superbugs." Numerous horror stories of needed medical care intentionally denied reveal the stark reality of government-run health care worldwide.
To a small degree, Obamacare's ominous implications are starting to leak out. Here's how columnist Charlotte Allen explained it recently in the Los Angeles Times:
In looking for a way to fund healthcare, Obama has set his eye on the oldest and sickest. You see, according to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, about 30 percent of Medicare spending – nearly $100 billion annually – goes to care for patients during their last year of life. What if there were no 'last year of life,' the president seems to be asking....[W]hy not save billions of dollars by killing off our own unproductive oldsters and terminal patients, or – since we aren't likely to do that outright in this, the 21st century – why not simply ensure that they die faster by denying them costly medical care? The savings could then subsidize care for the younger and healthier.
And for those who have been paying close attention, Obama himself has ever-so-gently hinted at his true intentions. At a town hall event in June televised by ABC News, Obama cited the case of his grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, who died on the eve of his election, suggesting one way to cut medical costs would be to stop expensive procedures on people about to die.
Families, Obama said, need better information so they don't approve "additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care."
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller," the president offered.
Well written and right on target. Several didn't like your truth and thus gave you marks that only a person in denial would give.
It is a sad situtation and troubling to say the least.
If those same people would be honest with themselves and see the whole picture as it is being unfolded, I think they would have to admit, some very bad things are happening.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#13 Aug 27, 2009
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Well written and right on target. Several didn't like your truth and thus gave you marks that only a person in denial would give.
It is a sad situtation and troubling to say the least.
If those same people would be honest with themselves and see the whole picture as it is being unfolded, I think they would have to admit, some very bad things are happening.
lol! Sure it's well written when it's plagiarized. If you'd like to read the whole book, they'll sell it to you, too at WorldnetDaily. Because it's their article!

And who is WorldnetDaily? Why here's a sampling of the type of journalistic tendancies they have....

"On September 20, 2000, WND published an article[4] claiming that Clark Jones, a Tennessee car dealer and fund-raiser for then-Vice President Al Gore, had interfered with a criminal investigation, had been a "subject" of a criminal investigation, was listed on law enforcement computers as a "dope dealer," and implied that he had ties to others involved in alleged criminal activity. In 2001, Jones filed a lawsuit[5] against WND; the reporters, Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays; the Center for Public Integrity, which had underwritten Thompson and Hays' reporting on the article and related ones[6]; and various Tennessee publications and broadcasters who he accused of repeating the claim, claiming libel and defamation. The lawsuit had been scheduled to go to trial in March 2008[7], but on February 13, 2008, WND announced that a confidential out-of-court settlement had been reached with Jones.[8] A settlement statement jointly drafted by all parties in the lawsuit states in part:

"Discovery has revealed to WorldNetDaily.com that no witness verifies the truth of what the witnesses are reported by authors to have stated. Additionally, no document has been discovered that provides any verification that the statements written were true.

"Factual discovery in the litigation and response from Freedom of Information Act requests to law enforcement agencies confirm Clark Jones' assertion that his name has never been on law enforcement computers, that he has not been the subject of any criminal investigation nor has he interfered with any investigation as stated in the articles. Discovery has also revealed that the sources named in the publications have stated under oath that statements attributed to them in the articles were either not made by them, were misquoted by the authors, were misconstrued, or the statements were taken out of context."[9]"

And that's the truth!
Rong Regina

Honolulu, HI

#14 Aug 27, 2009
elaine wrote:
I'm surprized to whatever. Perhaps the many Hawaiian groups have to meet first before they form an answer on behalf of their soverignty or perhaps Senator Akaka or President Obama could speak on their behalf. Didn't they just have a convention?
Truth is a hard thing to speak.
Well, elaine, you can have a whole bunch of groups pretending to be us, but that don't mean they get to speak for us.

Reading also helps too.

Take a look at the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act, 1920, and the Admission Act, Section 5(f) land trust too. You can easily find them in Sections 4 and 5 of the Statehood Admission Act, 1959.

The "sovereignty" guys want to take that from us, the real native Hawaiians, and set up some sort of a reinvention of an elitist, semi-alii, talk down to us, tell us what to do, anti-American, make believe "Indian tribe" under the Akaka bill.

We ain't buying it.

We never listen to them before, and we ain't gonna listen to them now.

As far as conventions, they always get those, every year.

Just like their endless "meetings." All they do is eat, eat, eat, and talk, and talk, and talk---but nothing happen.

As what us Hawaiians call, "useless" or "poho."

When they kokua the Hawaiian homes program, maybe we might pay attention.

As far as kingdom---forget it.
Bob

AOL

#15 Aug 27, 2009
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Sure it's well written when it's plagiarized. If you'd like to read the whole book, they'll sell it to you, too at WorldnetDaily. Because it's their article!
And who is WorldnetDaily? Why here's a sampling of the type of journalistic tendancies they have....
"On September 20, 2000, WND published an article[4] claiming that Clark Jones, a Tennessee car dealer and fund-raiser for then-Vice President Al Gore, had interfered with a criminal investigation, had been a "subject" of a criminal investigation, was listed on law enforcement computers as a "dope dealer," and implied that he had ties to others involved in alleged criminal activity. In 2001, Jones filed a lawsuit[5] against WND; the reporters, Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays; the Center for Public Integrity, which had underwritten Thompson and Hays' reporting on the article and related ones[6]; and various Tennessee publications and broadcasters who he accused of repeating the claim, claiming libel and defamation. The lawsuit had been scheduled to go to trial in March 2008[7], but on February 13, 2008, WND announced that a confidential out-of-court settlement had been reached with Jones.[8] A settlement statement jointly drafted by all parties in the lawsuit states in part:
"Discovery has revealed to WorldNetDaily.com that no witness verifies the truth of what the witnesses are reported by authors to have stated. Additionally, no document has been discovered that provides any verification that the statements written were true.
"Factual discovery in the litigation and response from Freedom of Information Act requests to law enforcement agencies confirm Clark Jones' assertion that his name has never been on law enforcement computers, that he has not been the subject of any criminal investigation nor has he interfered with any investigation as stated in the articles. Discovery has also revealed that the sources named in the publications have stated under oath that statements attributed to them in the articles were either not made by them, were misquoted by the authors, were misconstrued, or the statements were taken out of context."[9]"
And that's the truth!
Laugh all you want, but he gave credit. Again, you got off the point he was trying to make. You went off on your own tangent. Again, you are in denial of bad things happening.
Ben Thear

Honolulu, HI

#16 Aug 28, 2009
TRUTHSAYER wrote:
Concerning Will Page's letter:
The facts are; unlicensed vacation rentals are illegal. Neighbors in residential neighborhoods do not like, or want any more of them...
Seven out of 10 Kailua residents voted for the three candidates who were pro B&B licensing in the most recent special election for City Council. The nine candidates that were opposed to B&B licensing got 30% of the vote combine.

In last fall's City Council Barbara Marshall got 80% of the vote. Her only opponent who opposed B&B licensing got less than 20% of the vote.

Which neighbors are you talking about that don't want B&B's and vacation rentals?

These rentals provide jobs, taxes, and homes for local families. They don't cause any trouble.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#17 Aug 28, 2009
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Laugh all you want, but he gave credit. Again, you got off the point he was trying to make. You went off on your own tangent. Again, you are in denial of bad things happening.
He plagiarized an article from a source that has a history of not performing checks on their sources or the story. In other words, they lied to their subscribers.

I understand the point he was trying to make with a company who's been proven to lie about their stories. Even he lied by hiding his source.

And I can see what you're saying is the ends justifies the means... even if it means lying to people about the issue. You are the one in denial. I just pointed out a fact about the source and the author.
Angie

Kula, HI

#18 Aug 28, 2009
Are you an idiot? Are you trying to say that the “only” issue for a City Council seat is who is for or against B&B’s in our neighborhoods? Get real! You sound just like that idiot Will Page.
Ben Thear wrote:
<quoted text>
Seven out of 10 Kailua residents voted for the three candidates who were pro B&B licensing in the most recent special election for City Council. The nine candidates that were opposed to B&B licensing got 30% of the vote combine.
In last fall's City Council Barbara Marshall got 80% of the vote. Her only opponent who opposed B&B licensing got less than 20% of the vote.
Which neighbors are you talking about that don't want B&B's and vacation rentals?
These rentals provide jobs, taxes, and homes for local families. They don't cause any trouble.

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