Officials try to dispel fears of looming school closure - News

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State education leaders sought last night to reassure worried parents and children of a small Windward school facing closure that no decision has been made to shut down the century-old campus.
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<quoted text> Ooh, No...You are WAAAY smarter than I will ever be, Laie "Resident"...You already have all the answers you will ever believe.
So I guess you don't know of them? I mean, why bring up the point if you can't even provide evidence to your statements. Honestly, is that how you were taught to create an argument. All I have read is how the schools are allocated certain amount of money based on enrollment. Can you counter-argue that, or can you only be a wise-ass?
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So I guess you don't know of them? I mean, why bring up the point if you can't even provide evidence to your statements. Honestly, is that how you were taught to create an argument. All I have read is how the schools are allocated certain amount of money based on enrollment. Can you counter-argue that, or can you only be a wise-****?
Oh. Are you changing your handle and pretending to be "A Parent" now??? The post showing no ISP have all been negative.

You have ZERO credibility, "Laie Parent" troll.

You want to talk per pupil? It's less than $4,500 as a Weighted Student Formula base in DOE schools. The DOE has $14,000 per pupil available. That's $2.5BILLION to educate 170,000 students. "charles" has volunteered that $600million is spent on SPED students. That's $33,333 per student.

The WSF gets less than 1/3 of tax dollars to the schools for operations.

The WASTE is why Kaaawa is being threatened.

But, what was your question? All I could see on the screen was "Waaah-Waaah-Waaah... "
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Translator, you have no credibility. Do u even have a life you homer? You camp on here all day offering no intelligent remarks, only insults. I guess since your fantasy football league is over you need to blog. You have yet to offer any evidence other than using other people's ideas. You bitch and moan like the sorry bitch you are. You are probably a midget who can't get a date so u blog. Anytime u want to act all tough, come down to our gym and let's see if u are all talk or if u can back it up. If u serious I will give u the address, sissy!
Chris Runyon

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Aloha,
What has happened here? How has the point got to this? Is this the sign of the times? It this how it works at the DOE, BOE, or the state? Throw around insults so that nothing productive gets done and everyone else suffers. I like the ideas about how to fix the situation, and can even handle the "hater's" comments, but when the forum get this ugly, and the point has been lost, it makes me sad that I even wasted my time at the beginning to provide the public with information that the media, and state departments did not. I think it is unfortunate that grown persons have to hide under post names and sling insults about instead of really understanding the heart of the matter: the future of the students at Kaaawa Elementary School. What has happened to Aloha?
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Translator, you have no credibility. Do u even have a life you homer? You camp on here all day offering no intelligent remarks, only insults. I guess since your fantasy football league is over you need to blog. You have yet to offer any evidence other than using other people's ideas. You **** and moan like the sorry **** you are. You are probably a midget who can't get a date so u blog. Anytime u want to act all tough, come down to our gym and let's see if u are all talk or if u can back it up. If u serious I will give u the address, sissy!
I am afeard of internet tough guys such as you with your bulging plasma screen and rippling hard drive....
Please have mercy.
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DE needs to plan and report out a rational plan for closures and quality enhancements. Their budget seems huge for such a small student body.
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<quoted text>I agree that the East Honolulu schools should go first before any others. That would put to rest any notion of unfairness from a Honolulu-centric DOE/BOE.
Lenny, if this was discussed "months" ago, why bring it up, then? I mean, do you know that Kaaawa is slated to close before Wailupe?

For the life of me, I don't understand why you simply don't call the DOE from your office. Instead you'd rather bash them in the blog, of all places.

Bizarre behavior, to say the least.
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Just like I thought, an internet sissy hiding behind a name. Instead of owning up, you continue to crack jokes hoping to disguise the fact that you have no backbone. Anytime u want I will give you the address so you can come down here and show me how tough you are.....
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Aloha,
What has happened here? How has the point got to this? Is this the sign of the times? It this how it works at the DOE, BOE, or the state? Throw around insults so that nothing productive gets done and everyone else suffers. I like the ideas about how to fix the situation, and can even handle the "hater's" comments, but when the forum get this ugly, and the point has been lost, it makes me sad that I even wasted my time at the beginning to provide the public with information that the media, and state departments did not. I think it is unfortunate that grown persons have to hide under post names and sling insults about instead of really understanding the heart of the matter: the future of the students at Kaaawa Elementary School. What has happened to Aloha?
Chris Runyon:
Use your first post here as a guideline to create a clear set of ideas to send to the folks in Honolulu.

Then you go gather your parents together. You get a petition signed by as many as you can---get ALL your parents if possible, and parents of past students, and the students themselves--and take the petition to the BOE, Superintendent, Rep. Roy Takumi (Chairman, Committee on Education) and Sen. Norman Sakamoto (Chairman, Senate Education and Housing Committee) and tell them that you want their support to keep Kaaawa open.

Randolph Moore is the Assistant DOE Supt overseeing facilities--he is a key person to get to. He is a fairminded man and a bright spot in DOE leadership, in my experience.

Jessica Wooley is our House rep. Clayton Hee is a key Senator to contact.

Parents must send them many, many, many messages asking active support that say mainly the same things: Keep Kaaawa open, help us think through the cesspool issue for solutions, help us keep our community strong by keeping this great place available as a community resource, etc.
senhee@capitol.hawaii.gov
repwooley@capitol.hawaii.gov

Have you parents BLOG on this message board, too. The politicians have flunkies who monitor (and sometimes post on) this and other boards, so these messages WILL get out there if there are enough of them. These are often the "haters" and apologists.

If the politicians on the BOE and at the Legislature DON'T help, tell them all your parents will actively work against them from that point on, and will actively campaign against them in every future election race.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. You might not be able to unseat them right away, but leadership in both Chambers pays attention to whether a politician is supported by their constituencies or not, and this impact their standing on committees, etc. which in turn impacts their power and influence.

Good luck. Go save your school.
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Here you go again, Hawaii! Get the people to run scared and they won't have the time, nor the inclination to look at the REAL problem WHICH IS THE BLOATED, INEFFECTIVE, DYSFUNCTIONAL DOE......

You should have voted for the Con Con to take YOUR power back......

March in the streets, if you have to *remember the marches = Broken Trust issues?*
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Lenny, if this was discussed "months" ago, why bring it up, then? I mean, do you know that Kaaawa is slated to close before Wailupe?
For the life of me, I don't understand why you simply don't call the DOE from your office. Instead you'd rather bash them in the blog, of all places.
Bizarre behavior, to say the least.
I'm not privy to any "slated" closings.

Do tell.
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Oops, take your meds, step away from the keyboard. Deep breaths help.
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Just like I thought, an internet sissy hiding behind a name. Instead of owning up, you continue to crack jokes hoping to disguise the fact that you have no backbone. Anytime u want I will give you the address so you can come down here and show me how tough you are.....
Please Nancy-boy--Do tell.
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Chris Runyon:
Use your first post here as a guideline to create a clear set of ideas to send to the folks in Honolulu.
Then you go gather your parents together. You get a petition signed by as many as you can---get ALL your parents if possible, and parents of past students, and the students themselves--and take the petition to the BOE, Superintendent, Rep. Roy Takumi (Chairman, Committee on Education) and Sen. Norman Sakamoto (Chairman, Senate Education and Housing Committee) and tell them that you want their support to keep Kaaawa open.
Randolph Moore is the Assistant DOE Supt overseeing facilities--he is a key person to get to. He is a fairminded man and a bright spot in DOE leadership, in my experience.
Jessica Wooley is our House rep. Clayton Hee is a key Senator to contact.
Parents must send them many, many, many messages asking active support that say mainly the same things: Keep Kaaawa open, help us think through the cesspool issue for solutions, help us keep our community strong by keeping this great place available as a community resource, etc.
senhee@capitol.hawaii.gov
repwooley@capitol.hawaii.gov
Have you parents BLOG on this message board, too. The politicians have flunkies who monitor (and sometimes post on) this and other boards, so these messages WILL get out there if there are enough of them. These are often the "haters" and apologists.
If the politicians on the BOE and at the Legislature DON'T help, tell them all your parents will actively work against them from that point on, and will actively campaign against them in every future election race.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease. You might not be able to unseat them right away, but leadership in both Chambers pays attention to whether a politician is supported by their constituencies or not, and this impact their standing on committees, etc. which in turn impacts their power and influence.
Good luck. Go save your school.
I will say, this is an intelligent and well thought out post.

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