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4 car crashes leave 2 dead at scene - Hawaii News

There are 50 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 23, 2009, titled 4 car crashes leave 2 dead at scene - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The Statehood Day weekend has become a dangerous time to be on the road. Four serious accidents since Friday morning on Oahu have left two people dead and three drivers in serious or critical condition.

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Honolulu, HI

#1 Aug 23, 2009
Such is the evidence, unrefuted, of the consequences of such a dangerous mixture of drugs, alcohol and the use of a 2,000 automobile, whether speeding or not.

Here is the killer:

Even if YOU are driving carefully, you risk having one of these clueless, selfish, drunken drivers, driving into you.
Mike

United States

#2 Aug 23, 2009
Today's drivers are relying too much on the safety device on their vehicle to save them. Seat belts and air bags can only do so much. The rest of the safety is still common sense. Like don't speed and drinking behind the steering wheel. Sit in the back and let someone else drive.
nanakulimama

Honolulu, HI

#3 Aug 23, 2009
When are we going to realize it's not the road that's dangerous it's these dumb drivers. People are drinking, doping, whatever then getting in their vehicles because they think they can. You can't stop stupidity unfortunately. I'm sorry 2 people died because other people decided to be irresponsible and drive while under the influence. You can make all the laws you want to but how in the world do you stop stupidity!
Kama

Honolulu, HI

#4 Aug 23, 2009
Sobering and Depressing at the same time.

It's illegal to smoke pot, but it's ok to get drunk.
Get into a car. Plow another driver or cyclist over.

It reminds me of the 1980's toy gun recall. Get the toys off the shelves and keep selling the real ones.
Proud of you

Waianae, HI

#5 Aug 23, 2009
Kama wrote:
Sobering and Depressing at the same time.
It's illegal to smoke pot, but it's ok to get drunk.
Get into a car. Plow another driver or cyclist over.
It reminds me of the 1980's toy gun recall. Get the toys off the shelves and keep selling the real ones.
Last time I checked it was still illegal to get drunk, drive, and plow into another car or bicyclist.

What are you talking about?
rainbowwarriors

Honolulu, HI

#6 Aug 23, 2009
"Sgt. Greg Lopez, who works at Kahuku's police station, said that the highway isn't the problem, it's the people."

Why the split? We need to improve both road design and drivers' decisions to make our roads safer. Plenty of work to do on both and plenty of well-evidenced ways to do it better than now.
akamaiguy

Tucson, AZ

#7 Aug 23, 2009
Kama, I understand your point, Alcohol is far more dangerous and disorienting than even the most potent weed.

Proud of you,,, you know exactly what he's talking about..
I doubt very much he intended to insinuate that drinking and driving and plowing were ok...
CA Tourist

Garden Grove, CA

#8 Aug 23, 2009
Hawaii drivers are among the worst I've seen in my travels. They love to speed and tail gate. There seems to be a lack of common sense.
fedupinhawaii

Honolulu, HI

#9 Aug 23, 2009
Sgt Lopez,

No matter how hard you educate people about drinking and driving, it will never improve. Because I am a religious person, it is the evil force that people cannot understand that drives people to do things that are harmful to others. Have you heard or realize we all have this sin nature in us, no one is perfect.
mufasah

Honolulu, HI

#10 Aug 23, 2009
Re Laie Pt: So what's new? In the day the scenery is breathtaking. In the night, the scene changes into pakalolo fumes mingling with raucous laughter and clinking beer bottles. There is NO law enforcement to stop the disorderly drinking, speedy drunk drivers, littering, and drug dealing!!!
Bob_Mililani

Honolulu, HI

#11 Aug 23, 2009
<<People still drink, they still drive, they still speed. You gotta educate people more.>>

I disagree. Everyone old enough to drink is already aware of the pitfalls while driving when drunk, so further education isn't the answer. Draconian penalties would better serve the issue because it becomes a cost/benefit ratio for many. For instance, drive while intoxicated above the limit, automatic one year in jail along with a $10K fine and loss of vehicle. No exceptions. It would scare a lot of people and in turn, decrease the number of drunk drivers on the roads. Of course, there is always that ten percent who think they won't get caught and nothing can be done to dissuade them to do the right thing. However, the draconian penalties will have a negative ripple impact. Jail costs, impact on families of those convicted, decreased alcohol and tax revenue, etc. Gee, maybe I haven't thought this through. Oh well, it's just a thought.
Niem2

Thousand Oaks, CA

#12 Aug 23, 2009
Traffic crashes that result in death are tragic. But once the ambulances, coroners meat wagons, and tow trucks have done their works, who's left to police up the debris? Glass shards, metal parts, hunks of rubber, beer cans and broken booze bottles? Is there a reward for any body parts we find that the coroner missed? How much for a finger? Foot?
Bob_Mililani

Honolulu, HI

#13 Aug 23, 2009
CA Tourist wrote:
Hawaii drivers are among the worst I've seen in my travels. They love to speed and tail gate. There seems to be a lack of common sense.
Are you kidding me! Do you get out much on California roads?
EwaKid

United States

#14 Aug 23, 2009
"Drug paraphernalia was also found on the 33-year-old suspect while he was being taken to the hospital by ambulance, police said."

Another worthless, drug addicted thief that will most likely be returned to the streets by some liberal judge.
Bob_Mililani

Honolulu, HI

#15 Aug 23, 2009
Oops, should of said persuade instead of dissuade. My bad.
Big John-Hawaii Kai

Kailua Kona, HI

#16 Aug 23, 2009
Well I have to admit that its one h*e*l*l-of-a-way to cull the herd.
HPD Lacky

Mililani, HI

#17 Aug 23, 2009
Sgt. Greg Lopez, who works at Kahuku's police station, said that the highway isn't the problem, it's the people.

More incompetence from a derelict police department..drug arrest of HPD officers in Las Vegas....no HPD officers around during the massive traffic jams due to an overpass blockage.....no HPD officers directing traffic at Kamehameha Highway's problem areas...too many drinking coffee and eating donuts!

By the way....why did HPD stop the investigation of the former corrupt mayor Jeremy Harris when he was "implicated" for embezzlement?

Yeah.....Hawaii's finest, "To Serve and Protect"
kulafan

Ewa Beach, HI

#18 Aug 23, 2009
You know whats sad? These same people read the papers and watch the news just like the rest of us. Shake their heads and say this won't happen to me. The next week they get in their cars drunk and kill innocent people.
Too Smart

Honolulu, HI

#19 Aug 23, 2009
HPD Lacky wrote:
Sgt. Greg Lopez, who works at Kahuku's police station, said that the highway isn't the problem, it's the people.
More incompetence from a derelict police department..drug arrest of HPD officers in Las Vegas....no HPD officers around during the massive traffic jams due to an overpass blockage.....no HPD officers directing traffic at Kamehameha Highway's problem areas...too many drinking coffee and eating donuts!
By the way....why did HPD stop the investigation of the former corrupt mayor Jeremy Harris when he was "implicated" for embezzlement?
Yeah.....Hawaii's finest, "To Serve and Protect"
It's so easy to make such stupid comments...Get a LIFE!
Too Smart

Honolulu, HI

#20 Aug 23, 2009
Wow! You are a genius! It's so easy to critisize from the sidelines. Get REAL and PLEASE Get a LIFE!!!

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