Martinez prefers to stick to issues

Martinez prefers to stick to issues

There are 6792 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jun 8, 2010, titled Martinez prefers to stick to issues. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Republican gubernatorial candidate Susana Martinez is traveling around New Mexico this week to meet with constituents and listen to their concerns.

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Wahhhhh

Albuquerque, NM

#6440 Aug 21, 2013
justice is just a choice wrote:
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You're one of the few that understands my frustration.
As I said I was arrested and had to pay $2,000 to post bail only to have the prosecution admit 4 years later that no crime occurred. So then I posted a large bond for a false arrest and not only should I get my money back, but the arrest should be expunged.
And yet neither happens because New Mexico has some ridiculous laws that Martinez abused to no end.
So again in a nutshell the state of New Mexico through Susana Martinez stole $2,000 from me. And all these insane Martinez supporters think she had every right to commit a crime.
Wahhhhhh! Waaaahhhhhh! We not only thought she had every right to prosecute you, but we elected her governor because of it! LOL!! Your lucky she got elected, or you'd be in prison! Oh, and thanks for calling the majority of us New Mexicans who elected Susana Martinez "insane"! We really appreciate it from you Texans! In other words, FU!

“Freedom is never free”

Since: Jan 09

El Paso, Texas

#6441 Aug 23, 2013
Wahhhhh wrote:
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Wahhhhhh! Waaaahhhhhh! We not only thought she had every right to prosecute you, but we elected her governor because of it! LOL!! Your lucky she got elected, or you'd be in prison! Oh, and thanks for calling the majority of us New Mexicans who elected Susana Martinez "insane"! We really appreciate it from you Texans! In other words, FU!
Hmmm...

You think it's right to prosecute a person for a crime you know was never committed? It's on record the prosecution admitted no crime occurred and you believe they were right to prosecute a false charge.

You're not only insane, you're an idiot!

So in all net slang STFU! FYL! ESAD!
Martinez 2014

Farmington, NM

#6442 Aug 23, 2013
justice is just a choice wrote:
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Hmmm...
You think it's right to prosecute a person for a crime you know was never committed? It's on record the prosecution admitted no crime occurred and you believe they were right to prosecute a false charge.
You're not only insane, you're an idiot!
So in all net slang STFU! FYL! ESAD!
You need to quit sniveling and get on with your life there in Texas. You were charged with a crime because people believed you committed the crime. If Susana Martinez hadn't been elected our governor, she'd have prosectued your case instead of newbies, and you'd probably be in prison. And in prison, you'd be limited in your internet access, and we probably wouldn't have to read your whining. Such is life.

“Freedom is never free”

Since: Jan 09

El Paso, Texas

#6443 Aug 23, 2013
Martinez 2014 wrote:
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You need to quit sniveling and get on with your life there in Texas. You were charged with a crime because people believed you committed the crime. If Susana Martinez hadn't been elected our governor, she'd have prosectued your case instead of newbies, and you'd probably be in prison. And in prison, you'd be limited in your internet access, and we probably wouldn't have to read your whining. Such is life.
OH I'm not sniveling just pointing out your stupidity.

"newbies" - Schryer the last prosecutor on the case is nowhere near being a newbie - gross stupidity on your part.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/20...
Note Janice Schryer

"charged with a crime because people believed you committed the crime"

What people are you talking about? The prosecutors admitted no crime occurred. All the police reports say no crime occurred. What people are you talking about?

Oh the grand jury, well when Susana Martinez chose to suborn and commit perjury of course they believed her. They had no other evidence to show how bad she was lying.

By the way I'd like you to understand that I have in my possession along with my friends in El Paso PD, El Paso County Sheriffs, and a federal agent concrete proof the whole charge was a lie and they (the prosecution) knew so well before I was officially charged.

It's amazing how much you spout about things you know nothing about.
Martinez 2014

Farmington, NM

#6444 Aug 23, 2013
justice is just a choice wrote:
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OH I'm not sniveling just pointing out your stupidity.
"newbies" - Schryer the last prosecutor on the case is nowhere near being a newbie - gross stupidity on your part.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/20...
Note Janice Schryer
"charged with a crime because people believed you committed the crime"
What people are you talking about? The prosecutors admitted no crime occurred. All the police reports say no crime occurred. What people are you talking about?
Oh the grand jury, well when Susana Martinez chose to suborn and commit perjury of course they believed her. They had no other evidence to show how bad she was lying.
By the way I'd like you to understand that I have in my possession along with my friends in El Paso PD, El Paso County Sheriffs, and a federal agent concrete proof the whole charge was a lie and they (the prosecution) knew so well before I was officially charged.
It's amazing how much you spout about things you know nothing about.
Sure you do. You've got all the "evidence" in the world...except you are whining away on an anonymous public forum from Texas, Susana Martinez is Governor of New Mexico, and I've never even been charged with a crime at 60 years old. So we're all wrong an you are right. Uh-huh.

“Freedom is never free”

Since: Jan 09

El Paso, Texas

#6445 Aug 24, 2013
Martinez 2014 wrote:
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Sure you do. You've got all the "evidence" in the world...except you are whining away on an anonymous public forum from Texas, Susana Martinez is Governor of New Mexico, and I've never even been charged with a crime at 60 years old. So we're all wrong an you are right. Uh-huh.
While I appreciate your adversarial position, usually the adversary has a position. You on the other hand...well...you seem to be taking the viewpoint that in the entire history of mankind no one was ever falsely accused of a crime. I can point out several, matter of fact read this article.

http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/centralparkfive/

It's PBS. You like news so then you then have to accept this as fact. 5 teenagers not only falsely accused, but wrongfully convicted. They were released after the ONE person who actually committed the crime confessed to it. The prosecutors to this day say they did nothing wrong, except they had no evidence tying these teenagers to the crime. They strong evidence there was no way they could have committed the crime and on top of that had in their possession DNA proof that the teenagers were innocent, but chose to prosecute them anyway.

There are multiple cases like this and yet you in your inept foolishness want to stupidly believe that merely because I was charged then to you I'm guilty. Seems "innocent until proven guilty" means nothing to you.

However on top of that you choose to ignore the fact that no crime was committed. It's on record. I don't have to prove it to you, it's in the trial transcript. I know it. The prosecutors know it. It's public record.

You want to blame the last prosecutors for losing the case and dare say that Martinez would have won it. With what? There was never any evidence of a crime. Plus as I have stated Martinez knew well before an indictment was falsely acquired that the people knew no crime was committed.

She chose to ignore the truth and pursue a false charge to cover up the fact that Lisa King committed a felony.

And as I have repeatedly stated you can choose to support her, the criminal, all you want to, you do your own ignorance proud.
Mike K

Albuquerque, NM

#6446 Aug 25, 2013
justice is just a choice wrote:
<quoted text>
While I appreciate your adversarial position, usually the adversary has a position. You on the other hand...well...you seem to be taking the viewpoint that in the entire history of mankind no one was ever falsely accused of a crime. I can point out several, matter of fact read this article.
http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/centralparkfive/
It's PBS. You like news so then you then have to accept this as fact. 5 teenagers not only falsely accused, but wrongfully convicted. They were released after the ONE person who actually committed the crime confessed to it. The prosecutors to this day say they did nothing wrong, except they had no evidence tying these teenagers to the crime. They strong evidence there was no way they could have committed the crime and on top of that had in their possession DNA proof that the teenagers were innocent, but chose to prosecute them anyway.
There are multiple cases like this and yet you in your inept foolishness want to stupidly believe that merely because I was charged then to you I'm guilty. Seems "innocent until proven guilty" means nothing to you.
However on top of that you choose to ignore the fact that no crime was committed. It's on record. I don't have to prove it to you, it's in the trial transcript. I know it. The prosecutors know it. It's public record.
You want to blame the last prosecutors for losing the case and dare say that Martinez would have won it. With what? There was never any evidence of a crime. Plus as I have stated Martinez knew well before an indictment was falsely acquired that the people knew no crime was committed.
She chose to ignore the truth and pursue a false charge to cover up the fact that Lisa King committed a felony.
And as I have repeatedly stated you can choose to support her, the criminal, all you want to, you do your own ignorance proud.
You've been sniveling for YEARS about your woes, and nobody cares! A few people one here side with you for political reasons, because they hate Susana Martinez because she's a conservative Republican, but nobody really cares about your personal legal troubles. I can see that. They just use your story to prop up their own weak argument. But here's the bottom line: NOT ONE of the people YOU said committed felonies has been charged with any crime. NOT ONE! So when you said that they are all criminals, you are just lying. You have nothing to back it up, because if you did, Martinez's SERIOUS political enemies would be all over it to get dirt on her. Apparently, they all got your number a long time ago, and have disregarded your constant ranting and raving. If anyone believed you, they'd take up your case just to give Martinez a black eye, but they can't do it, because what you say is useless, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I voted for Susana Martinez, and I will vote for her again. If I decided to change my mind it would be over real ISSUES, not because of the ranting of some anonymous poster on a public forum who was fortunate enough to have his case thrown out on a technicality. Yes, THAT happens all the time too!
nope

Santa Fe, NM

#6447 Aug 25, 2013
Mike K wrote:
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people don't like Martinez because she is corrupt and selling us out to the special interests to advance a national political career. She is squandering state resources pandering to racists and the extraction industry.
Mike K

Albuquerque, NM

#6448 Aug 25, 2013
nope wrote:
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people don't like Martinez because she is corrupt and selling us out to the special interests to advance a national political career. She is squandering state resources pandering to racists and the extraction industry.
Sorry, but that's just not true. Susana Martinez is trying to bring this state out of the dark ages imposed by Santa Fe Democrats who have been running this state into the ground for decades with overspending and government control. Your are probably one of them, looking at your location, so I understand where your sentiment comes from. But the majority thought differently. That's why she's governor. I'm just sorry she has to deal with so many people in Santa Fe who want to keep this state as their own private playground, with the citizens as servants to them. That has to stop. But it takes a lot of work to dig out the entrenched power mongers. Sorry if you are one of them, I used to be a Democrat myself, but what must be done, must be done. The old ways just aren't working anymore. I guess they never really did. We just thought they did.
nope

Santa Fe, NM

#6449 Aug 25, 2013
Mike K wrote:
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if you stack the environmental regulatory boards with the polluters they are supposed to regulate, you are corrupt. If the experienced professional staff in the environment department are shuffled into roles outside of their areas of expertise and replaced, that is corrupt. If you allow the coal industry free rein to pollute the groundwater and favor repealing water protections from the oil and gas industry, you are corrupt. If your education department lead doesn't meet the minimum qualifications and is connected with for-profit educational firms skimming the limited funds for education, you are corrupt. If you
use the state police and the secretary of state's resources in a politically motivated witchhunt for non-existent voter fraud, you are corrupt. And finally if you have any involvement with Rove or the Koch Brothers, you know they are just looking for someone to front for their corruption and she is a willing partner in that.m

As for you, just because someone posts from a Santa Fe are IP doesn't mean they are involved in state government. That is just plain stupid. However this is the area with the highest level of educational achievement and is cultural center of the southwest.

“Freedom is never free”

Since: Jan 09

El Paso, Texas

#6451 Aug 25, 2013
Mike K wrote:
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You have nothing to back it up, because if you did, Martinez's SERIOUS political enemies would be all over it to get dirt on her. Apparently, they all got your number a long time ago, and have disregarded your constant ranting and raving. If anyone believed you, they'd take up your case just to give Martinez a black eye, but they can't do it, because what you say is useless, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I voted for Susana Martinez, and I will vote for her again.
By the way...another reason why they haven't been charged is a thing called statute of limitations. Heard of it?

That was the main reason they dragged the case for so long because they knew what they had done. They weren't trying to get a conviction all they were doing was delaying the matter so they could put themselves well outside an criminal charge for the time, the limitations period would have expired. Another reason why Amy Orlando purposely did not sign the official court order.

So you can think they are the bees knees all you want to, but they are all frauds and you're the biggest one for supporting them. Hell you should be charged with aiding and abetting.
Atomic Cafe

Farmington, NM

#6452 Aug 26, 2013
Mike K wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but that's just not true. Susana Martinez is trying to bring this state out of the dark ages imposed by Santa Fe Democrats who have been running this state into the ground for decades with overspending and government control. Your are probably one of them, looking at your location, so I understand where your sentiment comes from. But the majority thought differently. That's why she's governor. I'm just sorry she has to deal with so many people in Santa Fe who want to keep this state as their own private playground, with the citizens as servants to them. That has to stop. But it takes a lot of work to dig out the entrenched power mongers. Sorry if you are one of them, I used to be a Democrat myself, but what must be done, must be done. The old ways just aren't working anymore. I guess they never really did. We just thought they did.
You are absolutely correct. There was a reason Susana Martinez was overwhelmingly elected. The tax and spend libs in Santa Fe had things good when the economy could absorb their mismanagement. But when it couldn't, the flaws in their ideas showed up quick. Government should ALWAYS run as if tough times are around the corner. Stealing more and more money from the private sector, and trying to engineer what kinds of businesses you want, and what kind of business you want to drive away, always comes back to bite you on the ass later. And it has New Mexico big time! Basing an economy on tourism and the movie business, while driving away industries that capitalize on New Mexico's natural resources, was an obvious mistake. New Mexico's REAL wealth comes from oil and gas, minerals, timber. Real things that people need. Movies and tourism are some of the first things to suffer when people don't have any money.
Atomic Cafe

Farmington, NM

#6453 Aug 26, 2013
nope wrote:
<quoted text>
if you stack the environmental regulatory boards with the polluters they are supposed to regulate, you are corrupt. If the experienced professional staff in the environment department are shuffled into roles outside of their areas of expertise and replaced, that is corrupt. If you allow the coal industry free rein to pollute the groundwater and favor repealing water protections from the oil and gas industry, you are corrupt. If your education department lead doesn't meet the minimum qualifications and is connected with for-profit educational firms skimming the limited funds for education, you are corrupt. If you
use the state police and the secretary of state's resources in a politically motivated witchhunt for non-existent voter fraud, you are corrupt. And finally if you have any involvement with Rove or the Koch Brothers, you know they are just looking for someone to front for their corruption and she is a willing partner in that.m
As for you, just because someone posts from a Santa Fe are IP doesn't mean they are involved in state government. That is just plain stupid. However this is the area with the highest level of educational achievement and is cultural center of the southwest.
You libs always think anyone who opposes your limited, narrow self interest is corrupt. A difference in opinion doesn't make one corrupt. In fact, an opinion different than yours proves a person's intelligence and honesty. We all know liberal ideas don't work, just like communism doesn't work. It's business and industry that drives an economy, NOT government. Susana Martinez has done exactly what the majority voted for her to do. Now it's time to elect a legislature that will work with her to revive our state after a half century of old, tired Democrat ideas that have put our state in the position it's in..near the bottom of the barrel. Want progress? Vote Republican, for a change!
Quit

Santa Fe, NM

#6454 Aug 26, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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lying. You are the toady for narrow self-interests. If the goal of an agency is to protect air and water for everybody in the long term and you stack the deck with polluters who are by corporate charter interested only in maximizing returns in the short-term, that is corrupt by definition. La Tejana is in Wyoming now collecting her fee for selling us out.
Atomic Cafe

Farmington, NM

#6455 Aug 26, 2013
Quit wrote:
<quoted text>
lying. You are the toady for narrow self-interests. If the goal of an agency is to protect air and water for everybody in the long term and you stack the deck with polluters who are by corporate charter interested only in maximizing returns in the short-term, that is corrupt by definition. La Tejana is in Wyoming now collecting her fee for selling us out.
Leave it to a liberal to tell people having a job is a narrow self interest. Leave it to a liberal to tell people that anything other than their own ideology is corrupt. American liberals are the most intolerant people on the face of the planet..except for maybe militant Muslims. Hopefully, while in Wyoming, Governor Martinez will be able to convince some oil and gas people to come back to New Mexico by promising not to abuse them the way Bill Richardson did.

“Freedom is never free”

Since: Jan 09

El Paso, Texas

#6456 Aug 26, 2013
Quit wrote:
<quoted text>
lying. You are the toady for narrow self-interests. If the goal of an agency is to protect air and water for everybody in the long term and you stack the deck with polluters who are by corporate charter interested only in maximizing returns in the short-term, that is corrupt by definition. La Tejana is in Wyoming now collecting her fee for selling us out.
Hmmm...so it slowly plays out.

If you check her candidate expenditures and contributions report that are publicly available...you'll see she made a few trips to Colorado during her campaign. She did a lot of business in Colorado during her campaign...all the while claiming to want jobs for New Mexico. Matter of fact. I'd still like to know who she met in Beverly Hills, California at some steakhouse where she spent over $2,000 during the campaign.

Her interests have nothing to do with promoting New Mexico or trying to benefit the citizens of New Mexico her interests lie solely with Susana Martinez.
Atomic Cafe

Farmington, NM

#6457 Aug 26, 2013
justice is just a choice wrote:
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Hmmm...so it slowly plays out.
If you check her candidate expenditures and contributions report that are publicly available...you'll see she made a few trips to Colorado during her campaign. She did a lot of business in Colorado during her campaign...all the while claiming to want jobs for New Mexico. Matter of fact. I'd still like to know who she met in Beverly Hills, California at some steakhouse where she spent over $2,000 during the campaign.
Her interests have nothing to do with promoting New Mexico or trying to benefit the citizens of New Mexico her interests lie solely with Susana Martinez.
Sure. New Mexico is a closed economy with no interests outside the state. We don't need any investment or industry coming from anywhere else. If that's the case, President Obama is benefiting only his own interests every time he leaves the United States, spending millions of taxpayer dollars. Obviously his interests do not lie with the people of the United States, but solely with Barack Obama.

And let's not forget that campaign money is DONATED money that people gave freely. Not like taxpayer money that's taken from people by force of law, and then used to fund lavish travel for the Obama family and other government officials.
leave

Santa Fe, NM

#6458 Aug 26, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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it to a moron to state that having a job means we have to abandon all other values and leave it to a moron to deny that it is corrupt for polluters to regulate themselves.
Atomic Cafe

Farmington, NM

#6459 Aug 26, 2013
leave wrote:
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it to a moron to state that having a job means we have to abandon all other values and leave it to a moron to deny that it is corrupt for polluters to regulate themselves.
Poverty is the largest cause of health problems, worldwide. Lack of good paying jobs is the largest cause of poverty. You do the math.

The only morons here are the ones who automatically assume that good paying jobs equal pollution.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#6460 Aug 26, 2013
justice is just a choice wrote:
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Hmmm...so it slowly plays out.
If you check her candidate expenditures and contributions report that are publicly available...you'll see she made a few trips to Colorado during her campaign. She did a lot of business in Colorado during her campaign...all the while claiming to want jobs for New Mexico. Matter of fact. I'd still like to know who she met in Beverly Hills, California at some steakhouse where she spent over $2,000 during the campaign.
Her interests have nothing to do with promoting New Mexico or trying to benefit the citizens of New Mexico her interests lie solely with Susana Martinez.
Where were you when Fat Bill was taking this state to the cleaners? Oh that's right, you were in jail!

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