Two teens, one pregnant, killed in Su...

Two teens, one pregnant, killed in Sunday crash (3:26 p.m.)

There are 41 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jan 5, 2009, titled Two teens, one pregnant, killed in Sunday crash (3:26 p.m.). In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

A female passenger who was killed in a crash on New Mexico Highway 28 near Las Cruces early Sunday morning was almost five-months pregnant, a relative told the Sun-News. Johnny Marmolejo, 18, of Vado, and ...

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Bob

Las Cruces, NM

#24 Jan 6, 2009
Bobeedo wrote:
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By the way,Bob, that is a disgusting and disgraceful comment.
And you are all hypocrites. Go look at any other Topix thread regarding young, uneducated girls breeding out of control - then read the comments posted by people who are sick and tired of funding such a problem in the way of medical care and food stamps. The diaper donation in Canutillo comes to mind. If she was already knocked up at age 14, it's pretty likely she'll have two more by age 20.

That's just the way to be prosperous around here (and around the country, too)- more kids, more free stuff - and it will continue until the welfare handouts are severely diminished or ended all together.
Swan

Houston, TX

#25 Jan 6, 2009
I think the source of many of these remarks is from people who are just tired. Tired of leading good lives, paying a hell of a lot of taxes, and observing what the end result is, which is to say, not much. People living licentious, dislocated lives, living on the margins of society, and realizing that many of these victims are already living with two strikes against them. And this cycle will NEVER, EVER be broken, until these people stop creating life, to persist this culture downward to future generations. Education, or the value of it, is an obvious factor. This culture, in the year 2009, relative to the remainder of the USA, seems to have a complete lack of regard for the meaning of education, and the results of which are obvious, as these stories are read on a regular basis in the EP Times, LC Sun News, etc. And again, it bears repeating, people (myself included) are tired of seeing their tax dollars removed from their paychecks before they even see it, and have it squandered on rabble the likes of which are portrayed as victims in this article. People who make good decisions, lead mostly virtious lives, are increasingly having a hard time making a go at living with any more than a small financial margin of error, because so much of their earned money is being taken from them. This foments the resentment you are reading on various posts on this thread. Until this cycle reverses itself, and the population figures in this country someday begin to decline, you are going to see increasingly more rats fighting in a can, and clawing at each other.
markymark

United States

#26 Jan 6, 2009
Thats a fact Jack...
Consider the following

Chaparral, NM

#27 Jan 6, 2009
The only thing that amazes me to a certain degree is that you find courage writing such things yet would you say these things to the mother or father to their face? Would you say this on the news so everyone can see who you are? It is very easy to write something anonymously and say such hateful things regardless if there is any truth to it, but to say it in person, I wonder how many hateful comments would be posted. Yes the circumstances in which this event occurred should have never come to this, however it did and what has happened has happened. There is a time and a place to say things, this is neither the time nor the place. The idea that it brings a smile to your face by reading about the loss of life, no matter what the reason is sickening. To bring in your political views here once again is not the appropriate time, you are perhaps the same kind of people (and I use the term very loosly) who would protest at a military funeral saying you have a right to do so without a second thought on how your actions may affect others, yes we have rights but you must use common sense and responsibility when doing so. Otherwise you are no greater than a beast who has no conscience whatsoever. I know people do not like it when religion gets brought in, but then again you are probably the ones who are saying all these hateful posts, but when Jesus was asked why did he seek the thieves,tax collectors,and all the other castaways it was because they were the ones who needed Him the most. Asked who should we love, the answer is our neighbor, and who is our neighbor, everyone. I personally knew Johny in my days of teaching, and yes there were times when he made mistakes but never would I wish this upon him or anyone else. And never would I say such things to him, his family or anyone else affected by this, that is plain out cowardly.I will be watching the news to see who speaks out just let me know what channel.My deepest condolences and prayers to the family members.
Lea

Gallup, NM

#28 Jan 6, 2009
Don't drink and drive. Better to get there safe then not get there at all.
jasmine

Gallup, NM

#29 Jan 6, 2009
the best time to make a decision on drinking is before you actually take a drink. Think if you can drink responsibly or not. If you had three beers in twenty minutes you've already had too many. Same goes for hard liquor. Drink it slow and enjoy it if you must get buzzed or don't drink at all. Younsters should not be drinking at all. Just look at the outcome. If you the adults know that your kids are hanging out with out of control drinkers or drug addicts then try very hard to sway them away from that bad company. For what ever reason the kid behind the wheel felt he was invinsible to danger speeding that fast is totally ignorant. I pray the families get through senseless tragedy.
CK One

Wahiawa, HI

#30 Jan 6, 2009
Why was this knocked up child with this older man alone in the car? Where are these girls parents? I can not believe how bad it has gotten in New Mexico. No wonder people are running out of that state As quick as they can.

Since: Jan 09

Red Bank, NJ

#31 Jan 6, 2009
Can you say "natural selection?" I'll bet you can...
Bob

Albuquerque, NM

#32 Jan 6, 2009
Consider the following wrote:
The only thing that amazes me to a certain degree is that you find courage writing such things yet would you say these things to the mother or father to their face? Would you say this on the news so everyone can see who you are? It is very easy to write something anonymously and say such hateful things regardless if there is any truth to it, but to say it in person, I wonder how many hateful comments would be posted. Yes the circumstances in which this event occurred should have never come to this, however it did and what has happened has happened. There is a time and a place to say things, this is neither the time nor the place. The idea that it brings a smile to your face by reading about the loss of life, no matter what the reason is sickening.
Don't know who you are directing your comment to, but I'll step in because my comments have been shot down in both threads. Who said anything about smiling while reading about the death of two teenagers? I didn't. But it sure isn't a tragedy, in my opinion. There was no innocence between these two teens, and with a 5-month old fetus - very little future as well.

That is all.
Bobeedo

Albuquerque, NM

#33 Jan 6, 2009
Let me just say that my speculations about the nature of the relationship between these two young people and the failure on the part of both their families to provide proper guidance is based on 15 years of working as a social worker in this community. Kids don't do this kind of thing when they think they have a future, when they feel good about themselves and their lives. They may take moderate risks, or experiment but they don't do what these two teens seem to have been doing on a regular basis.

I am sad, not angry, that two immature teenagers, did the stupid and dangerous things immature and troubled teens do when they don't have any supervision and are allowed to run like they are adults. I am angry that they meant so little to the people tasked to raise them that they failed to provide the kind of parenting they needed and as a result, this occurred. That their families were so ignorant as to be happy about a baby coming into the world with these two completely unprepared kids for parents. Their deaths were a preventable tragedy.

By the way, stop calling this boy an "older man". Even though the young man was 18, I don't know too many adults who would argue that an obviously troubled 18 year-old male has the developmental maturity of a full fledged "man". I know mine isn't.
Bob

Albuquerque, NM

#34 Jan 6, 2009
He was a "man" as much as she was a "little girl".

Gimme a break!
Tyler

Farmington, NM

#37 Jan 6, 2009
Lake Trash wrote:
Can you say "natural selection?" I'll bet you can...
heheh. Pretty much
andjustice4all

United States

#38 Jan 6, 2009
Consider the following wrote:
The only thing that amazes me to a certain degree is that you find courage writing such things yet would you say these things to the mother or father to their face? Would you say this on the news so everyone can see who you are? It is very easy to write something anonymously and say such hateful things regardless if there is any truth to it, but to say it in person, I wonder how many hateful comments would be posted. Yes the circumstances in which this event occurred should have never come to this, however it did and what has happened has happened. There is a time and a place to say things, this is neither the time nor the place. The idea that it brings a smile to your face by reading about the loss of life, no matter what the reason is sickening. To bring in your political views here once again is not the appropriate time, you are perhaps the same kind of people (and I use the term very loosly) who would protest at a military funeral saying you have a right to do so without a second thought on how your actions may affect others, yes we have rights but you must use common sense and responsibility when doing so. Otherwise you are no greater than a beast who has no conscience whatsoever. I know people do not like it when religion gets brought in, but then again you are probably the ones who are saying all these hateful posts, but when Jesus was asked why did he seek the thieves,tax collectors,and all the other castaways it was because they were the ones who needed Him the most. Asked who should we love, the answer is our neighbor, and who is our neighbor, everyone. I personally knew Johny in my days of teaching, and yes there were times when he made mistakes but never would I wish this upon him or anyone else. And never would I say such things to him, his family or anyone else affected by this, that is plain out cowardly.I will be watching the news to see who speaks out just let me know what channel.My deepest condolences and prayers to the family members.
I allso new Jonny.I meet him when he pointed a gun at me.I guess I should forgive but I wont forget and neith will the others that he kept in fear for their lives with his constaint threats.My condolences to all that loved him
LOL

Tucson, AZ

#40 Jan 6, 2009
Btw, it's "as quickly as they can." How colloquial of you, lol.
andjustice4all

United States

#41 Jan 6, 2009
LC Resident wrote:
<quoted text>
OK so if your saying to ask the cashiers at the Vado truck stop then they are also responsible for selling the beer to Johnny. So what's wrong with this picture? If they knew Johnny was underage WHY ARE THEY SELLING TO HIM OR ANY OTHER MINORS??????
Maybe you are the cashier and you know all about it. I think the police should check you and the others out as well.
They did'nt sell the beer to a minor, they sold it to a 23 year old that was really 18 years old.

“My two cents might be useful..”

Since: Jan 09

Los Angeles

#42 Jan 6, 2009
Bobeedo wrote:
Let me just say that my speculations about the nature of the relationship between these two young people and the failure on the part of both their families to provide proper guidance is based on 15 years of working as a social worker in this community. Kids don't do this kind of thing when they think they have a future, when they feel good about themselves and their lives. They may take moderate risks, or experiment but they don't do what these two teens seem to have been doing on a regular basis.
I am sad, not angry, that two immature teenagers, did the stupid and dangerous things immature and troubled teens do when they don't have any supervision and are allowed to run like they are adults. I am angry that they meant so little to the people tasked to raise them that they failed to provide the kind of parenting they needed and as a result, this occurred. That their families were so ignorant as to be happy about a baby coming into the world with these two completely unprepared kids for parents. Their deaths were a preventable tragedy.
By the way, stop calling this boy an "older man". Even though the young man was 18, I don't know too many adults who would argue that an obviously troubled 18 year-old male has the developmental maturity of a full fledged "man". I know mine isn't.
Bobedoo,
Based on your comments in this post and in others I question your 15 years of experience as a counselor. I believe if it were true you were a professional you wouldn't express yourself in such an uneducated manner.Also, based on your "speculations" I can tell you have no clue what you're talking about...cut the bull...
Thomas

Chaparral, NM

#43 Mar 2, 2010
Bobeedo wrote:
First of all, what responsible adult says the family was "all excited about the baby" for a pregnant 14 year-old? Give me a break, please. Where in heaven's name were her parents? Are they to be held responsible for failure to supervise and protect her, which lead to not only her pregnancy, but her ultimate death?
Second, this story smacks of classic dating/domestic violence, where the guy speeds to scare the hell out of his girlfriend, punish her emotionally and teach her the lesson that she should never cross him, leave him, make him look stupid in public, etc. Could the young man have decided to kill himself, and took along his girlfriend and unborn child so that no one else could have her?
Don't laugh folks. It was only a few years ago that Las Cruces saw a beautiful 14 year-old girl named Ashley Wax snuffed out on her own front lawn by a violent, jealous abusive boyfriend. It happens everyday across America, and it's a complete travesty. It would be really nice if the police and in addition the Sun-News investigated this incident to help people out there understand what happened here, as well as just how lethal dating/domestic violence is.
You know what Screw You Bobeedo! Hey thats a retarded name anyways and I dont know you but by your stupid little comments like that your going to get your self kill, You want to know why your such a bitch. Because that Johnny Marmolejo happen to be MY CUZIN and I dont appriciate nobody that talks bad about him and yeah he screw up but you dont know crap so shut up like a whore hush. Dont be running out your mouth like that hahahope you rot in hell
estrella ramirez

Chaparral, NM

#44 Apr 15, 2010
we were alll exiced about the baby but come on everyone makes mistakes and i am sure u guys have made mistake my niece lucero was madly in love with johny and johny took her alway from us but all we know is that she is in a better place with her baby and tha one she loves so if u guys are gonna be posting comments bad about lucero and her partents u guys need shut tha hell up cause i am sure u guys have made mistakes ?????????? R.I.P lucero we miss u and love u mija
trejodelilah

United States

#45 May 18, 2010
poeple are just so full of shit man lucero was my best friend and ya i know n understand she was to young to be pregnant and died at that age but u guys aint no one to be judgin u guys go to respect the pain of lost her family is going threw
jessica

El Paso, TX

#46 Jan 6, 2013
First of all everyone talking shit shud shut up yall dnt know wat happen! Thats my sister ur talking about like for reals yall need to respect dat!! Ook so i suggest all u idiots out there to shut up nd get a life like for reals!! Ook!! How would you all like ppl talking shit about ur sister?? U wouldnt like it huh?? Exacally dats how i feel soo yall better shut up!!( RIP) Lucero ur family nd friends miss nd luv u soo much!!!:/:(:`(

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