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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Voluntarist

United States

#48880 Feb 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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again, it depends on the state. In CT LLCs have no stock. AT least none than I know of. Maybe I owe myself something.
Ok well i dont remember a board of directors for an llc, just members.

A C corp affords you more protections and less possibility of an audit if your income is under $250,000.

A corporation is an artificial person which keeps your personal assets safe since the assets of the corporation are separate from yours.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48881 Feb 8, 2013
The words "pure" or "impure" are concerned are misnomers. Everything is an admixture of various forces at work with each trying to dominate the play. It makes better sense to view events as either being "balanced" or "unbalanced".
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48882 Feb 8, 2013
That should read - The words "pure" or "impure" are misnomers.
Voluntarist

United States

#48883 Feb 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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That wasnt what I said or meant. You dont need an attorney to file for a LLC.
And you wouldnt need to file a corporation or llc with the court, the ct secretary of state handles the filing and it gets registered on concord.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#48884 Feb 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
That wasnt what I said or meant. You dont need an attorney to file for a LLC.
rabbee: well you don't need to have an attorney, for any civil or criminal court actions. yes you can do it all yourself, as i have previously done. and have found out many unexpected complications along the way. though pro-se is much much cheaper, than having an attorney do it all.

but you are still going to have, court costs and filing fees. it is still not a bad idea, to have an attorney go over it first before you proceed. nor is is a bad idea, to gain a little expertease in court actions by observing a few. but there is no legal requirement to have an attorney for anything in the many states.

and there are certain requirements that must be met. before they even allow you access, for online filling for any specific docket. first you have to be regestered, for filing a court action/s. this is true, whether you are an attorney or not.

and it is true, that filling for corperate status. is most likly the more simple, of uncontested court actions. but should someone contest it, it can get complicated ugly real quick. but most of the time, it is more of a rubber stamp type approvial. as long as some idiot! doesn't want you to file an enviromental impact statement too.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48885 Feb 8, 2013
PROMISCUITY IS NOT BAD:

1) Promiscuity is not bad or impure conduct as most people who're indoctrinated by religion think.

2) Promiscuity is damaging to the mental, emotional and physical energies/states as when one sleeps around with multiple partners in straight or gay relationships, one draws in their baser energies and in the process one loses a part of one's own energies to the other/others.

3) In this way, one's natural balance of the force fields is upset.

4) Besides, being physically, emotionally and mentally attached to sex and partners scatters one's energies and introduces unhealthy addictions with the result that peace, self-control, self-sufficiency and stability keep receding.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48886 Feb 8, 2013
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT BAD:

1) Being born gay or having gay inclinations is not bad as most religious folks think.

2) Homosexuality simply indicates a slight deviation in the psychological and vital forces governing the sex center in the brain.

3) The religious sages looked upon gay sex as something "bad" since they considered procreation the natural outcome of sex and so sex was something reserved for man and woman. However, procreation can be asexual - binary fission, invitro, cloning.

4) Anal sex between man and man or between man and woman is not impure but it damaging as it unbalances the nerve currents leading to the brain system and so a short circuit occurs in the brain currents that lead to unnatural synaptic connections being forged under the influence of the unbalanced nerve forces.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48887 Feb 8, 2013
MARRIAGE NEED NOT BE SANCTIFIED THROUGH A RELIGIOUS CEREMONY:

1) Marriage or living together sans marriage as the case may be are mere psychological, emotional, physical and material contracts between partners and this union as a result forges a close link in consciousness and energy between them which can be strong or feeble depending on the attachment and commitment between the partners.

2) Infidelity is simply breach of trust in the relationship and is on par with say violating the terms and conditions of a business contract.

3) Infidelity indicates lack of concentricity in the being which means that the balance of forces in the being are not centered or stable enough and tend to scatter or be attracted to other sources of attraction other than one's own and to the object of one's alliance.

4) Exchange of wows in religious ceremonies do not sanctify a union between partners by which I mean there's nothing "divine" or "sacred" about it - it's simply bringing into the individual and collective consciousness of both the partners the need to stay loyal and to nurture each other till the end. It is an act of counselling. Nothing deeper should be attached to religious ceremonies.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48888 Feb 8, 2013
MARRIAGE:

1) Marriage is the simple act of consolidating the force link between partners that facilities the intimate exchange of psychological, vital, emotional and physical energies.

2) If the partners are loyal and nurturing, their individual and collective force fields attain to stability and this brings in peace.

3) When one is at peace, it indicates a state of balance among the forces and in this condition one can maximise one's potential and make progress.

4) Peace is simply a condition of stability that comes about due to balance of the components of a system or balance among forces.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#48889 Feb 8, 2013
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-55

There were cases in which “All Swords” the prophet used to have at his disposal failed and one can say that he failed to “enslave” some people. There were some who faced Muslim army in the battle field and were slain, and there were a few cases which were executed on the order of prophet (which we shall take up in the next episode).

The Case of : MARBA’ BIN QAIDHI, THE BLIND MAN OF MADINA

MARBA’ BIN QAIDHI was a blind man, who lived outside Madina in a garden that lay along the route of Mount of OHUD.

He was one of the party of Hypocrites of Madina, supporter of Abdullah Bin UBAI, the hypocrite in Chief.

On the day of Battle of OHUD, when prophet started with an army of 1000, and after going a short distance Abdullah bin UBAI, the hypocrite along with his 300 followers, deserted Muslim army and went back to Madina, claiming that “prophet did not accept his advice, but accepted advice of young lads of Madina”.

Prophet marched with remaining 700 of his followers to the plains of OHUD, on the way they passed the gardens of this MARBA’ BIN QAIDHI the blind Hypocrite, He heard the commotion and came out of his hut and shouted “O Mohammad! I do not give you permission to pass thru my land. If you are a Messenger of Allah, then you will not pass thru my land without permission”

Then he took a handful of sand and threw it towards prophet saying “By Allah, if I knew this will reach your eyes, I would have done so”!

Companions of prophet became very angry and went forward to punish him…

“Leave him Alone” said the Prophet “He is blind in his eyes and in his heart”

That was all what prophet did to him and went ahead.

There are some people on which “No sword” is really effective. The sword of patience and mercy of prophet had little effect on such blind people!!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/122191862

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi

““You must not lose faith ”

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#48890 Feb 8, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Much love from JJ
that term had better not incude 2 o's

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#48891 Feb 8, 2013
Eric wrote:
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I love it when lay people talk law.
I find it fascinating.
So would such a LLC only be allowed to operate in CT with CT clients?
And when business from elsewhere comes knocking is an LLC that sorted under an umbrella, cq. sister-organisation?
Then how would the liabiity be spread between LLC, umbrella and insurance? Does that involve a standard contract?

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#48892 Feb 8, 2013
Just proving that you tube is no match for Eric...
otherwise you're out of a job Eric.

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#48893 Feb 8, 2013
Hmm voluntarist.
If you are considering it.
You had better have the LLC carry the insurance, since though you are a pass-through non-entity, you could however be exposed to reversed piercing.

Eric having the time of his life now.:)

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#48894 Feb 8, 2013
Clarification: reversed ego piercing.

Americans invented all of this i.e. company as seperate identity.
I frankly have not gotten to the entire US and LLC's. I would certainly get legal advise first!

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#48895 Feb 8, 2013
The only JJ that rings a bell:
http://www.citeulike.org/user/jjray/article/1...

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#48896 Feb 8, 2013
Daft bunch over at Allah's.

Therefore:
HB wrote:
HughBe--- My dear Maat, your strong affection for me has blinded you to the fact that I am not a Judahite or member of Judaism. So, your secret code "f.i" is appropriate for Frijoles but not me.

end quote

F.I. FOR INSTANCE

Found in the English language, and is this thus not a secret jewsi codeword between me and Frijoles.

I also a.o. use at times:
I.E. id est
E.G. example given
etc. etcetera- a.s.o. and so on
a.o. amongst other(s)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#48897 Feb 9, 2013
Eric wrote:
01. Now you changed your tirade. Your original position was that the Messianic should be able to live wherever they wanted. When I pointed out to you that the Messianic couldn't live in Mecca, now you are on another tirade that has nothing to do with your original point.

Make up your mind, please.

2

Damn-it, MUQ, this is where we started. The Arabs got 2/3 and the Israelis got 1/3. The Arabs didn't want that. They started a war and lost. They refused to negotiate peace even when the Israelis in 1950 offered to negotiate new border lines. The ARABS wanted it all. The Israelis wanted a state. The ARABS didn't want to allow them one. The Arabs have suffered ever since because of their intransigence.

Make up your mind.
Ans.

01. My mind is already made up. I said if Messianic Jews believe what their name signifies then they are the True Jews and True Christians.

But if they picked up this Title just as a "show" piece then they are like hundreds and thousands of so many sects and denominations in Judaism and Christianity.

Since when the question of their domicile came? Since they say Jew, so they should be welcome to live in Israel.

It was YOU who suggested that we take them in Makkah, I have no problem if they fulfill the Visa requirement for coming to Makkah.

It is you who should make up your mind.

02. do not damn us, but damn yourself, whom you are trying to fool by saying that Arabs got 2/3rd of Palestine in UNO award?

Since Jews constituted less than 10 % of population of Palestine in 1917, they should get only 10 % of the land, how they got 34 %(if we go by your logic)?

Giving 34 % land to 10 % of population was a grave injustice.

Since Jews were living without any state for 2000 years, they had forgotten all about how to run it. They thought that by being a bully is the best way to live.

It is not and it never pays. They should have formed friends with Arabs, but now it is too late.

My mind is already made up. Any state based on tyranny, injustice, mischief and bias has but a short leash of life.

Just check up if the Zionist state of Israel has any of these qualities.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#48898 Feb 9, 2013
Jim wrote:
01. sincerely pray ask Jesus sincerely if he was God in the flesh, and died for our sins , to please help you, knock and the door will be open, seek and you will find,

02. Allah is not the same he is a fake, trust me millions know im telling the truth, the only true god is the jewish God, you should love your jewish brothers, if you truly hate the Zionist Jews God will never be close to anyone who does so, not Christian or Muslims,
Ans.

01. You are making claims about Jesus which he never made or was never even aware of.

So you are in fact dictating to Jesus what authority he should claim.

02. Allah is in Arabic what YHWH is in Hebrew and what God is in English.

The only difference is that Jews have soiled YHWH to make Him as their "racial God" that has special relationship with them.

The Christians have soiled their God by inserting two of God's Creations to share God-head with Him. One of these is a "human" Jesus and another is an "angel" of God called "Holy Spirit".

It is only Muslims that have pure concept of God, without any deviation or adulteration.

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#48899 Feb 9, 2013
All states have that. going by your definition.

second line from the bottom.

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