Unemployment rate rises for NM cities...

Unemployment rate rises for NM cities as other metros recover

There are 394 comments on the Business Journal story from Jul 2, 2013, titled Unemployment rate rises for NM cities as other metros recover. In it, Business Journal reports that:

The unemployment rate in New Mexico and its four major metropolitan areas increased in May, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#102 Jul 9, 2013
You liberals who blame Republicans for NAFTA might also explain why Nancy "You've got to pass the bill to see what's in it" Pelosi voted for it, why the "Lion of the Left" Ted Kennedy voted for it, why your Presidential hopeful and current Secretary of State John Kerry voted for it, and why your current Vice-Prez Joe Biden voted for it. You Democrats sure know how to punish folks for selling you out!
xando

Glendale, AZ

#103 Jul 9, 2013
So you're saying you don't understand that 75.79% is more than 41.08%

Idiot
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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No. You need to stop ignoring the historical fact that your "elder statesman" Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton signed NAFTA into law, telling Democrats who voted against NAFTA that they were just wrong. If Clinton would have vetoed NAFTA, it would have been dead, because there weren't enough votes in congress to overturn a veto. You may be able to fool yourself and your ignorant and weak-minded cohorts, but you cannot fool me.
You sound

Huntsville, AL

#104 Jul 9, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
!
exactly like crazy cary - I was wondering what happened to him.
xando

Glendale, AZ

#105 Jul 9, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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If Clinton would have vetoed NAFTA, it would have been dead, because there weren't enough votes in congress to overturn a veto.
Apparently because of lack of DEMOCRAT votes....Republicans did more than their share to vote it in.

Idiot.
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#106 Jul 9, 2013
xando wrote:
So you're saying you don't understand that 75.79% is more than 41.08%
Idiot
<quoted text>
No. You are saying you don't understand that Democrats held majorities in BOTH houses of congress (and had for about 40 years!), and there was a Democrat president, and there weren't enough votes to override a veto, and your "elder statesmen/hero" Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton STILL signed NAFTA into law, telling Democrats who voted against it that they were just plain stupid for being against it. Democrats had the Presidency, and majority in congress, at the start, middle, and ending passage of NAFTA. The whole thing was Democrat, start to finish. Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle, Biden, AND New Mexico's own Democrat Jeff Bingaman voted for NAFTA! And so did Democrat Carol Mosely-Braun and liberal stalwart Democrat Tom Harkin! So keep on blaming the Republican minority for NAFTA, and keep showing us what a stupid Democrat YOU are. OH, and Hillary Clinton supported NAFTA too, and she's the one you lefties are hoping will win the Presidency next.
SmartFart

Castle Rock, CO

#107 Jul 9, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
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Wrong, retired, don't need nor want another job. Life is good.
So you answer to the name Cornholz. Interesting.
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#108 Jul 9, 2013
xando wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently because of lack of DEMOCRAT votes....Republicans did more than their share to vote it in.
Idiot.
Democrats were the majority in both houses of congress, and we had a Democrat president, during the time NAFTA was passed and signed into law. The woman you liberals are counting on to be the next President supported NAFTA too. Explain why you give them a pass, jackass.
xando

Glendale, AZ

#109 Jul 9, 2013
You're having a difficult time with this, aren't you.

Again........75.79% of ALL Republicans voted for NAFTA. 41.08% of Dem's voted for it.

NAFTA was SIGNED by HW Bush, Mexican Pres Salinas and Canadian PM Mulroney.

Ronald Reagan BEGAN the push for NAFTA. Your draft dodging, druggie lyin idol, Limbaugh, highly supported it. If it were not for Repubs, NAFTA would never have been.

Idiot.
Atomic Cafe wrote:
<quoted text>
No. You are saying you don't understand that Democrats held majorities in BOTH houses of congress (and had for about 40 years!), and there was a Democrat president, and there weren't enough votes to override a veto, and your "elder statesmen/hero" Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton STILL signed NAFTA into law, telling Democrats who voted against it that they were just plain stupid for being against it. Democrats had the Presidency, and majority in congress, at the start, middle, and ending passage of NAFTA. The whole thing was Democrat, start to finish. Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle, Biden, AND New Mexico's own Democrat Jeff Bingaman voted for NAFTA! And so did Democrat Carol Mosely-Braun and liberal stalwart Democrat Tom Harkin! So keep on blaming the Republican minority for NAFTA, and keep showing us what a stupid Democrat YOU are. OH, and Hillary Clinton supported NAFTA too, and she's the one you lefties are hoping will win the Presidency next.
IM NEVER WRONG

United States

#110 Jul 9, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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No. New Mexico Democrats have OVER-protected the land and water from phony threats using scare tactics and junk science. The land and water was never in any great danger from oil or gas, or mining, or timber, precisely because nature does a very good job of cleaning up after itself. EVERYTHING that is extracted, mined, or logged was PUT there by nature. It is for OUR use. There is more mining, logging, and extraction going on in the world today than ever before, just not in the United States, and it's dirtier and more dangerous than ever in developing countries like India and China because they are emerging industrial powers who haven't learned what we in the United States HAVE learned about extracting oil, gas, and minerals in a safe and sound manner. So while liberals like you pat yourself on the back about shutting down extraction and timber in the U.S., you've actually made the world a dirtier and more dangerous place. I'm sure you are proud that it's out of your sight, and out of your mind. But the rest of us know what's really going on.
Oh please. You and the other DOGZ that post on this forum Have no idea of environmental awareness. We don't make other parts of the world more dangerous and dirtier. If the government did not enforce regulations here, then The US WOULD LOOK LIKE LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#111 Jul 9, 2013
IM NEVER WRONG wrote:
<quoted text> Oh please. You and the other DOGZ that post on this forum Have no idea of environmental awareness. We don't make other parts of the world more dangerous and dirtier. If the government did not enforce regulations here, then The US WOULD LOOK LIKE LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
As expected, the only solution you put forth is that which your tiny brain is marinating in. Figures...
IM NEVER WRONG

United States

#112 Jul 9, 2013
Bottom line is this..........
Rant, complain, bawl and moan all you want. Whether it be growing apples all the way too smelting zinc, it is their job to be environmentally responsible and demonstrate that their actions will not harm the environment. IT is not the government's job. Those who think otherwise get to watch and will be left behind.
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#113 Jul 9, 2013
xando wrote:
You're having a difficult time with this, aren't you.
Again........75.79% of ALL Republicans voted for NAFTA. 41.08% of Dem's voted for it.
NAFTA was SIGNED by HW Bush, Mexican Pres Salinas and Canadian PM Mulroney.
Ronald Reagan BEGAN the push for NAFTA. Your draft dodging, druggie lyin idol, Limbaugh, highly supported it. If it were not for Repubs, NAFTA would never have been.
Idiot.
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Bwaahaahaahaaha! Your addled brain just cannot comprehend any form of reality. Both Reagan and Bush were FORMER Presidents when Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Neither Reagan nor Bush had any power whatsoever. Rush Limbaugh has never had a vote in Congress, and has never had the authority to sign ANYTHING into law. Ross Perot made a good case against NAFTA, and congress and the nation were against it, UNTIL he went on Larry King Live for the "Special Debate" episode with Al Gore, who was a vocal supporter of NAFTA. Gore lied has ass off convincingly, and trounced Perot in the debate (kind of the same way Obama lied his ass off over Benghazi in that debate with Romney), and like Obama, Gore had a willing media fawning over and covering for him, and the tide turned towards NAFTA. NAFTA passed congress, and Democrat President Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton signed it into law. Those are the facts. So you continue to lie YOUR ass off, and cover for those who betrayed you, after all, you're in good company with fellow liars Obama and Gore, but history is what history is, and it will always be that way.
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#114 Jul 9, 2013
IM NEVER WRONG wrote:
<quoted text> Oh please. You and the other DOGZ that post on this forum Have no idea of environmental awareness. We don't make other parts of the world more dangerous and dirtier. If the government did not enforce regulations here, then The US WOULD LOOK LIKE LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
Of COURSE we make other parts of the world more dangerous and dirtier. If we hadn't shut down our industrial base through over-regulation and higher taxation, China would still be an agrarian society today, instead of the worlds largest polluter. If WE keep going the way we are, this nation will look like a third world country very soon.
xando

United States

#115 Jul 10, 2013
Here is a link explaining the history of NAFTA. It won't take long to read it:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/N...
The brainchild of HW Bush, voted for by a higher percentage of REPUBS than DEMS, and signed into law by Clinton.
If you're going to try to discuss something, you should be better informed.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/N...
Atomic Cafe wrote:
<quoted text>
Bwaahaahaahaaha! Your addled brain just cannot comprehend any form of reality. Both Reagan and Bush were FORMER Presidents when Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Neither Reagan nor Bush had any power whatsoever. Rush Limbaugh has never had a vote in Congress, and has never had the authority to sign ANYTHING into law. Ross Perot made a good case against NAFTA, and congress and the nation were against it, UNTIL he went on Larry King Live for the "Special Debate" episode with Al Gore, who was a vocal supporter of NAFTA. Gore lied has ass off convincingly, and trounced Perot in the debate (kind of the same way Obama lied his ass off over Benghazi in that debate with Romney), and like Obama, Gore had a willing media fawning over and covering for him, and the tide turned towards NAFTA. NAFTA passed congress, and Democrat President Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton signed it into law. Those are the facts. So you continue to lie YOUR ass off, and cover for those who betrayed you, after all, you're in good company with fellow liars Obama and Gore, but history is what history is, and it will always be that way.
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#116 Jul 10, 2013
xando wrote:
Here is a link explaining the history of NAFTA. It won't take long to read it:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/N...
The brainchild of HW Bush, voted for by a higher percentage of REPUBS than DEMS, and signed into law by Clinton.
If you're going to try to discuss something, you should be better informed.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/N...
<quoted text>
Chicago Tribune, November 11th, 1993:

"Clinton Hopes Gore's Showing Translates Into NAFTA Votes"

WASHINGTON The public awarded Vice President Al Gore high marks Wednesday, suggesting that his gamble to debate Ross Perot may provide wavering members of Congress with the ammunition they need to support ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

There was only limited evidence, however, that Gore's encounter Tuesday night with the Texas billionaire on CNN's "Larry King Live" had sparked new endorsements for the pact.

President Clinton announced that four more House members and Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.) had joined the ranks of those backing the agreement, which would eliminate tariffs and trade barriers with Mexico and Canada.

Strategists on both sides said the announcement had been expected and was designed to give the impression of momentum after the debate.

It brought the total favoring the pact to at least 190 out of the 218 needed for approval when the House votes next Wednesday.

Members are heading home for a long Veterans Day weekend and for a final measure of their constituents' views.

"I think we will see more coming in the days ahead, and I think by the time we get to vote-counting we'll have enough to win," Clinton said at a news conference called chiefly to rally congressional support for trade and crime legislation.

Rep. George Sangmeister (D-Ill.), an undecided member invited to dinner at the White House earlier this week, said the debate hadn't swayed him, although he had found Perot "caustic."

Sangmeister said he didn't expect to declare his position until next Monday or Tuesday after hearing from constituents.

"My ear will be open long and hard this weekend. I will be listening to everybody," he said.

Sangmeister pointed to Caterpillar Inc., one of the largest employers in his district. Labor leaders at the Joliet plant have told him the company will move jobs to Mexico if NAFTA passes. Management has said it will be able to hire more because of greater sales to Mexico.

Another of the four Illinois Democrats yet to declare his position, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, will announce how he will vote Sunday in Chicago, an aide said. He has been leaning against the pact. Illinois Democratic Reps. Richard Durbin and Mel Reynolds also remain undecided.

In six Midwest states, only three of the 48 Democratic representatives have come out in favor of the free-trade agreement: Dan Rostenkowski of Illinois, Lee Hamilton of Indiana and Tim Penny of Minnesota.

While continuing to hear from both sides, undecided members will also see the results of instant polls that showed Gore beat Perot in the debate. Post-debate surveys said Gore had his major impact on moving previously undecided voters.

In one survey of 357 debate-watchers for CNN and USA Today, 57 percent of the respondents said they now favor NAFTA, 36 opposed it and 7 percent were undecided. Before the debate, only 34 percent favored NAFTA.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-11-11...
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#117 Jul 10, 2013
Even New Mexico's own Bill Richardson was a big supporter of NAFTA back when he was in congress. Who knew?

Here's an article from the Baltimore Sun, Nov. 11, 1993:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-11-11/n...

Here's an excerpt: "Usually, such trips home have an eroding effect on NAFTA support, said Rep. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, one of the chief Democratic proponents of NAFTA. But this time he and his troops are hopeful that the folks back home will be lobbying for the treaty.

"The next four days will be critical," said Rep. Robert T. Matsui, a California Democrat who leads the pro-NAFTA team with Mr. Richardson."
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#118 Jul 10, 2013
Clinton and Gore were working their ASSES off to get NAFTA passed (And apparently sell you out, xando):

November 05, 1993

"Clinton Hits Road to Push Free Trade : NAFTA: He praises U.S. workers, warns of threat from Japan if pact is defeated. But pitch is upstaged by prospect of a Gore-Perot debate."

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-05/news/m...
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#119 Jul 10, 2013
xando wrote:
Here is a link explaining the history of NAFTA. It won't take long to read it:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/N...
The brainchild of HW Bush, voted for by a higher percentage of REPUBS than DEMS, and signed into law by Clinton.
If you're going to try to discuss something, you should be better informed.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/N...
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I don't need to read modern retrospective articles and revisionist history about NAFTA, I was there, and fully aware of what was going on back then. And there is lots of stuff on the internet that was written BACK IN THE DAY that proves NAFTA would have NEVER passed if Clinton and Gore hadn't pushed so hard to GET it passed. You finally admitted that Clinton signed NAFTA and made it law, and that must have really hurt! You've taken that first step! Good job!
Why Dat

Farmington, NM

#120 Jul 10, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
<quoted text>
You are all wrong. Overegulating industry that already has an exemplary record compared to the dollars brought in is just stupid. Bill Richardson, Diane Denish, and the Lujans, Udalls, and other Democrats who run this state are just stupid. The proof is that New Mexico is the ONLY oil and gas state that isn't seeing recovery. New Mexico also has the most hostile business environment to the oil and gas industry. There you go.
World wide natural gas glut ?

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#121 Jul 10, 2013
IM NEVER WRONG wrote:
Bottom line is this..........
Rant, complain, bawl and moan all you want. Whether it be growing apples all the way too smelting zinc, it is their job to be environmentally responsible and demonstrate that their actions will not harm the environment. IT is not the government's job. Those who think otherwise get to watch and will be left behind.
Not the governments job huh? So you think most people are educated enough to ferret out any and all environmental issues. YGBSM!! You're a lunatic, and definitely not one who has a grasp of the issues, nor the education to make a determination with respect to getting things done right.

I know I don't have all the technical knowledge to do so on every level, you OTOH think you do but in fact are simply an imposter, a slight of hand actor, a quack, and a piss poor one at that. But then you're just a kid too with no experience or real world knowledge of how things operate and how to change them, huh sonny?!?!?!

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