Environmental impact study not needed...

Environmental impact study not needed for road to Spaceport

There are 27 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Jan 9, 2012, titled Environmental impact study not needed for road to Spaceport. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

An in-depth environmental review of a proposed southern road to Spaceport America won't be required after all - a decision that has spaceport backers breathing sighs of relief.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Las Cruces Sun-News.

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
orly

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Jan 9, 2012
wow. this sends some kind of message to the public who were swindled out of tax dollars to fund this boondoggle. life in the wild-wild-west allows for a lack of checks and balances.
Winding Road

Silver City, NM

#2 Jan 9, 2012
Isn't that the truth! It's shocking, and mostly apalling, our government entities bend their own rules just to keep business (or political) favor. That's what they did to keep the T or C hot springs going, too. And, New Mexico does seem more guilty of this than most other states.

Rules?(You know, the ones they spend all of their time making, then say they don't have staff to enforce them.) "Oh", they'll say, "that rule only applies to certain situations, and if the business had special this or that, well, then those rules don't necessarily apply, unless it's Thursday at 3 O'Clock, on the fifth week of the month, but if it's leap year, then, well, there's a different set of rules....".

Folks, our government is so broken, it can't be fixed.

Don't even try making complaints, speaking at public hearings, thinking it matters, etc. You'll get put into the black hole loop. And that's the way they like it. I had a complaint that took them a year-and-a-half to respond to. Then, it was well if it's this, but not that, then our dept. doesn't handle your request.

And the beat goes on....
happy camper

Truth Or Consequences, NM

#3 Jan 10, 2012
Today is declaration day for city commission candidates. I hear we have some good people signing up. This could be a good opportunity to get some people in there who don't want to hang on to the way business has been done here for the last many decades. Not everyone wants to pick up that fight, but we can all get out and vote! Don't lose heart...we can turn things around. At least here in town. The country? I'm not so encouraged about.
paul

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Jan 10, 2012
An environmental impact study would be a waste of time and money. 1. The (well traveled) road is already there. 2. They already paved the same road from Engle south to Cutter, what's the freaking difference?

Glad to see virgin galactic is moving thier office to Las Cruces, at least we'll get some of our money back.
Rick O Shea

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Jan 10, 2012
paul wrote:
An environmental impact study would be a waste of time and money. 1. The (well traveled) road is already there. 2. They already paved the same road from Engle south to Cutter, what's the freaking difference? Glad to see virgin galactic is moving thier office to Las Cruces, at least we'll get some of our money back.
Very well stated Paul....in this town, common sense
is scarce but at least its not extinct. Not yet anyway.
Wells

Silver City, NM

#6 Jan 10, 2012
What about the people who live in Cutter and Engle who've totally lost their wells? All dry...

Nah, no environmental impact study needed...unless you live near the Spacepork!
Rick O Shea

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Jan 10, 2012
Wells wrote:
What about the people who live in Cutter and Engle who've totally lost their wells? All dry...
Nah, no environmental impact study needed...unless you live near the Spacepork!
And money spent on a study now would change that situation how? The Space Port has been built. It's here and it's a done deal. I'm not saying it was a great idea or that people negatively impacted shouldn't be fully compensated. But Paul is correct. To spend money on an environmental study in the final stages of the project would be an idiotic waste. Kind of like running over to close the barn door after the horses got out.
Zip

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Jan 10, 2012
Rick O Shea wrote:
<quoted text>
And money spent on a study now would change that situation how? The Space Port has been built. It's here and it's a done deal. I'm not saying it was a great idea or that people negatively impacted shouldn't be fully compensated. But Paul is correct. To spend money on an environmental study in the final stages of the project would be an idiotic waste. Kind of like running over to close the barn door after the horses got out.
What about the cows that are still in the barn?
Eddie P Albino

Santa Fe, NM

#9 Jan 10, 2012
The space port is for helping humanity face the fact that we will soon have this planet so screwed up that we will soon have to leave it forever. Damn the environmental impact studies, warp speed ahead!
Stop crying

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Jan 11, 2012
The voters approved it. It's here. Stop friggin crying about it! There is nothing in this planet that will make you happy is there?
Uuuh

Pasadena, CA

#11 Jan 11, 2012
Rick O Shea wrote:
<quoted text>
And money spent on a study now would change that situation how? The Space Port has been built. It's here and it's a done deal. I'm not saying it was a great idea or that people negatively impacted shouldn't be fully compensated. But Paul is correct. To spend money on an environmental study in the final stages of the project would be an idiotic waste. Kind of like running over to close the barn door after the horses got out.
the study would be on the new road construction, not the space port. Different project - different issues.

Since there is already access from the north, there is nothing about assessing the impacts of the road that interferes or delays the operation of the spaceport.
Uuuh

Pasadena, CA

#12 Jan 11, 2012
Wells wrote:
What about the people who live in Cutter and Engle who've totally lost their wells? All dry...
Nah, no environmental impact study needed...unless you live near the Spacepork!
there already was a study, and folks have been compensated for not being able to graze state land.

Please provide a link about the wells - obviously there should be recourse, if true.
in the beginning

Silver City, NM

#13 Jan 11, 2012
Domination sure is the way, isn't it? See, we locals remember when Bill Richardson came to town and rammed the tax increase down our throats (bend over Sid Bryan, Gary Whitehead and Jerry Stagner). When opponents to the tax increase put up signs and rallied, his "people" played all the dirty tactics...tearing our signs so they couldn't be read, stealing them, and even directing the state highway guys to take them down (after they had been approved by the highway dept.). Of course, nobody questioned the illegal employment practices set up by People For Aerospace to media blitz T or C's citizens, and the push for employers to intimidate workers to vote "yes", or they'd lose their jobs.

Should we honestly back something that was done so unethically, and now continues in the same vein? Now to hear requirements, state and federal, are being ignored, gone around, and flat out determined unnecessary (why did they have them as requirements to begin with) is PAR FOR THE COURSE, EH?
are you proud

Silver City, NM

#14 Jan 11, 2012
FACT: instead of paying back the costs of his failed Presidential campaign, Richardson took campaign funds and put them into the Spaceport media blitz.

Can you still say ETHICS without feeling guilty after all that you know about the Spacepork?
Honestly

Oakland, CA

#15 Jan 11, 2012
Eddie P Albino wrote:
The space port is for helping humanity face the fact that we will soon have this planet so screwed up that we will soon have to leave it forever. Damn the environmental impact studies, warp speed ahead!
We can't even pay to have the streets clean, how are we going to move to the moon? Is that the plan for the 1%?
Eddie P Albino

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Jan 11, 2012
No. The 0.01%
orly

Las Cruces, NM

#17 Jan 11, 2012
in NM the stance is you can fool all of the people all of the time. look at the education system here. keep everyone dumb and poor and they are at the mercy of the politicians.
Honestly

Oakland, CA

#18 Jan 11, 2012
Streets full of people
All alone
Roads full of houses
Never home
Church full of singing
Out of tune
Everyone's gone to the moon

Eyes full of sorrow
Never wet
Hands full of money
All in debt
Sun coming out in
The middle of June
Everyone's gone to the moon

Long time ago
Life has begun
Everyone went to the sun

Cars full of motors
Painted green
Mouths full of chocolate
Covered cream
Arms that can only
Lift a spoon
Everyone's gone to the moon

p.s. I don't know if/how it relates but I always loved that song...
Eddie P Albino

Santa Fe, NM

#19 Jan 11, 2012
Humankind's hubris is boundless.
happy camper

Truth Or Consequences, NM

#20 Jan 11, 2012
And yet we're all a part of it.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Hatch Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Editorial: A shortage of workers in chile fields Mon TCPTC 1
News Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel (Jun '08) Aug 27 Norbert of Norview 71,944
News Gov. Martinez appoints Las Crucen to judicial p... (Mar '11) Aug 25 Robbie 23
News Martinez prefers to stick to issues (Jun '10) Aug 15 Sam A 6,450
News A local intstitution Aug 14 EarthwrightsDesigns 1
News Tempers flare over proposed food stamps changes Aug 11 Joel 69
News Different Sparky's signature is the draw for 'A... Aug 11 I love the southwest 1
More from around the web

Personal Finance

Hatch Mortgages