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Environment groups see dark portents in Legislature

There are 120 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 26, 2011, titled Environment groups see dark portents in Legislature. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

It started with proposals to cut regulatory red tape and to repeal a long-standing ban on new nuclear power plants.

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anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#104 Mar 28, 2011
exed wrote:
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I agree with what you say about not insinuating that wind power is dangerous and irrelevant just because some turbines failed. That means both you and I would have to disagree with those insinuating that nuclear power is too dangerous and irrelevant just because some reactors failed...due to some very unusual circumstances.
I don't believe my position on nuclear power was stated so how would you know if we agree or disagree? Regardless if for or against nuclear generators, it is accurate to state the failure of a nuclear reactor compared with a turbine blade would not produce the same results.
anonymous

Saint Paul, MN

#105 Mar 28, 2011
exed wrote:
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I agree with what you say about not insinuating that wind power is dangerous and irrelevant just because some turbines failed. That means both you and I would have to disagree with those insinuating that nuclear power is too dangerous and irrelevant just because some reactors failed...due to some very unusual circumstances.
I don't believe my position on nuclear power was stated so how would you know if we agree or disagree? Regardless, if for or against nuclear generators, it is accurate to state the failure of a nuclear reactor compared with a turbine blade would not produce the same results.
Saul Alinsky

Tate, GA

#106 Mar 28, 2011
Shake Money Maker wrote:
I know how we can make a lot of money as a state instead of raping the environment by pimping out parks, water resources, polluting like crazy.
Just put the daughters of Republicans to work. You know, they are so experienced with pimping for big business.
I think you mean Al Gore pimping for environmentalist...he made his millions, increased his carbon foot print, hired masseuses then flew off to life in a lap of luxury sheltering his money from taxes and leaving the rest of the phony global warming alarmist with egg on their face.

Since: Mar 11

Dothan, AL

#107 Mar 28, 2011
The Leftist talking points have been circulated.

#1 Call names
#2 Deflect the real issues
#3 Character assination
#4 Avoid the facts
#5 Rhetoric, rhetoric followed by emotional rhetoric.

Read the Liberal-progressive-open minded-party of tolerants comments and see how many of the points they hit.
kobear

Fort Collins, CO

#108 Mar 28, 2011
How right you are oejwbl

"Environmentalists are terrorists, there God is the mother earth, they would starve a baby to save a tad pole. Restricting energy just makes America a third world nation that is hardly compassion to families...liberals war on Jesus Christ is all too predictable"

Can we have an economy and environment? Or is the choice between one and the other? MN's lakes are clearer than they have ever been thanks to our private businesses?
Take Our Country Back

San Francisco, CA

#109 Mar 28, 2011
Reader wrote:
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Let's get the facts clear. Bush and Pawlenty (with help from Greenspan) ruined an otherwise sound economy and Obama got elected by enough distressed people to try out turn around their mess. There were less Minnesotans working in 2010 than when he took office. And didn't Bush lead 3 oil companies into bankrupcy before becoming Governor of Texas? Quite a resume. Fuel prices are no where near the cost of the damage done by the use of these fuels and the cost of the Middle East wars needed to secure it. Get the facts. Get real. No wonder Bush and Pawlenty got elected. There are a lot of ignorant, selfish people coming out of the U.S. educational system. Worse yet, a lot of them actually think they aren't ignorant and selfish.
Wow, you are a true idiot! Let me explain the facts to you. Liberal policies forced banks to right loans to people who could not afford to pay them back, under the guise that everyone is entitled to own a house, whether they could afford it or not. Predictably the bubble burst and brought the economy down with it. Bush was actually too liberal in bailing out banks, but Obama and the libs have doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on this irresponsible policy of spending and driving up the debt.

Environmentalist commie libs pass regulations preventing drilling for oil domestically and then b itch and complain when prices are high. We need to drill for oil here at home, and utilize coal for electricity. Nuclear should be an option as well. Lib energy sources like wind and solar at best provide 1% of our nations energy requirements, and despite massive subsidies are nowhere near cost effective. Those of us who live in the real world know that there is no possible way to meet our energy requirements without some degree of risk.
Take Our Country Back

San Francisco, CA

#110 Mar 28, 2011
Take Our Country Back wrote:
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Wow, you are a true idiot! Let me explain the facts to you. Liberal policies forced banks to right loans to people who could not afford to pay them back, under the guise that everyone is entitled to own a house, whether they could afford it or not. Predictably the bubble burst and brought the economy down with it. Bush was actually too liberal in bailing out banks, but Obama and the libs have doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on this irresponsible policy of spending and driving up the debt.
Environmentalist **** libs pass regulations preventing drilling for oil domestically and then b itch and complain when prices are high. We need to drill for oil here at home, and utilize coal for electricity. Nuclear should be an option as well. Lib energy sources like wind and solar at best provide 1% of our nations energy requirements, and despite massive subsidies are nowhere near cost effective. Those of us who live in the real world know that there is no possible way to meet our energy requirements without some degree of risk.
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Alicia

Plymouth, MN

#111 Mar 28, 2011
ENVIRO FREAKS must go!!

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#113 Mar 28, 2011
Brown Shirt Archie wrote:
... Attaching this anti-science amendment to larger bills makes it very difficult for the governor to veto....
Minnesota governors may exercise the line-item veto. FORTUNATELY!

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#114 Mar 28, 2011
oejwbl wrote:
The Leftist talking points have been circulated.
#1 Call names
#2 Deflect the real issues
#3 Character assination
#4 Avoid the facts
#5 Rhetoric, rhetoric followed by emotional rhetoric.
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You are badly mistaken here. This is the manifesto of the Right Wing! I call pseudo-cons on these aggravating habits daily.

Avoiding Facts is the Republican Way!
Sideshow Bob

Saint Paul, MN

#115 Mar 28, 2011
Madaman wrote:
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Minnesota governors may exercise the line-item veto. FORTUNATELY!
So how is he going to line item veto budget funding that isn't there?

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#116 Mar 28, 2011
Sideshow Bob wrote:
<quoted text>So how is he going to line item veto budget funding that isn't there?
He will line-item veto the anti-science amendments.
Le Jumbo Soros

Cottonwood, AZ

#117 Mar 28, 2011
Madaman wrote:
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You are badly mistaken here. This is the manifesto of the Right Wing! I call pseudo-cons on these aggravating habits daily.
Avoiding Facts is the Republican Way!
This is my lackey.
monet

Tempe, AZ

#118 Mar 28, 2011
Stand with workers, Support WI Democrats

For nearly three weeks straight, tens of thousands of people have gathered outside of the Capitol building in Madison, Wisconsin speaking out against Republican Governor Scott Walker's attempt to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees. But Scott Walker and the GOP have eviscerated both the letter and the spirit of the law and our democratic process to ram through their payback to their deep-pocketed friends.

Democratic members of the Wisconsin State Senate have boldly stood their ground - and stood up for workers' rights.

Please make a donation in support of the Wisconsin Democratic Party today and show them that like them, you stand beside Wisconsin's hard working public servants.

https://secure.actblue.com/page/widemsupport
Le Jumbo Soros

Cottonwood, AZ

#119 Mar 28, 2011
monet wrote:
Stand with workers, Support WI Democrats
For nearly three weeks straight, tens of thousands of people have gathered outside of the Capitol building in Madison, Wisconsin speaking out against Republican Governor Scott Walker's attempt to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees. But Scott Walker and the GOP have eviscerated both the letter and the spirit of the law and our democratic process to ram through their payback to their deep-pocketed friends.
Democratic members of the Wisconsin State Senate have boldly stood their ground - and stood up for workers' rights.
Please make a donation in support of the Wisconsin Democratic Party today and show them that like them, you stand beside Wisconsin's hard working public servants.
https://secure.actblue.com/page/widemsupport
Wow!!!!! 47 posts in less than an hour!!! Le Jumbo ,you have outdone yourself. The check is in the mail, my Son. Be sure to give the PP Topix monitor his cut, for his generous attitude will not be forgotten.
JohnGalt

Murfreesboro, TN

#120 Mar 28, 2011
Typical liberal claptrap. I think America should focus on one thing--use EVERY resource to create wealth for the USA. This wealth is easily just compensation for whatever little "environmental" damage it creates
Sideshow Bob

Saint Paul, MN

#121 Mar 28, 2011
Madaman wrote:
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He will line-item veto the anti-science amendments.
Good thing he has advisors, Mark wouldn't know science if it bit him.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#122 Mar 28, 2011
JohnGalt wrote:
Typical liberal claptrap. I think America should focus on one thing--use EVERY resource to create wealth for the USA. This wealth is easily just compensation for whatever little "environmental" damage it creates
You should look over the history books and see all the failed empires that thought that same thing. Not an original idea and not even a good one. Nice try though.
Owl Portents

Monroe, LA

#123 Mar 29, 2011
Carbon Trading Schemes in Trouble and Ignored

Why are carbon trading issues that have gone awry ignored by the media? Two examples: 1-scam artists from around the world, capitalizing on lax regulations at the Danish emissions trading registry have made off with an estimated $7-billion over the last two years, and 2- the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) announced that it will be ending carbon trading this year. Both of these have been underreported (ignored?) by most media. Denmark

The Danish climate emission permit registry allowed companies with no documented address trade CO2 emission permits. While allowing a free-for-all served the carbon market on the short term by appearing to inflate the interest in carbon as a commodity, it ultimately backfired when much of the trading proved to be phony. One of the companies had the address of a parking lot. Lawrence Solomon notes,“This story, greatly underreported, came to me via a Norwegian reader, Geir Hasnes, who has translated one of the few press reports to have appeared.”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/...
Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX)

In a little reported move, the Chicago Climate Exchange announced on October 12 that it will be ending carbon trading—the only purpose for which it was founded—this year. At its founding in November 2000, it was estimated that the size of CCX's carbon trading market could reach $500 billion. That estimate ballooned over the years to $10 trillion.

Not only was a young Barack Obama a board member of the Joyce Foundation that funded the fledgling CCX...
better idea

Minneapolis, MN

#125 Mar 29, 2011
Environmentalist wrote:
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How about if all couples limited themselves to one or 2 kids? Or less. The Chinese figured this out 15 years ago.
Just what is the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of the Earth, or China, or just the United States? If as some religious zeolots would force us all to believe, the Earth is about to come to an end, it won't matter. But outside the Bible Belt, intelligent, educated people believe in the separation of right wing churches and state, and are preparing for the long haul here on Earth, and don't want it destroyed by religious beliefs that step on the separation of church and state. Some of us even see God's beauty reflected in wildlife, flora, and the Heavens. But then you also have to believe in Hubble and the science of the Universe.
If you can get the muslims and welfare recipiants on board I agree, lets face it, those are the people who are breading everyone out. and the chinese did not figure it out, they came here to breed. in fact so did the mexicans... know what? IT IS EVERYONE BUT THE RIGHTWING NUT JOBS LIKE ME!!!! and yes, I see God in nature everyday, I doubt highly you do.

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