In Dakota County's family drug court,...

In Dakota County's family drug court, sobriety leads to success

There are 49 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Apr 7, 2011, titled In Dakota County's family drug court, sobriety leads to success. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The courtroom is a place where 24-year-old Jenny Brown finds encouragement. Her support group includes a judge, social workers, attorneys and others.

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Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Apr 8, 2011
hopefully these young people can wake up before they pass the point of no-return...

they have plenty of time...plenty of opportunities to do so..

but the problem is

they have plenty of time...plenty of opportunities to not do so...
Huh

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Apr 8, 2011
While it's nice to see people succeed. I wonder about the drug cases the majority of these people have in other counties as well. They still lose the kids if they are incarcerated somewhere else. Dakota may just be deflecting these people elsewhere. Kudos for Dakota but I'd like to see the overall finished product and not inflated stats just to secure more federal monies.
shelly Losee

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Apr 8, 2011
Some of the most inspiring people in the world are those that overcome their addictions. Some people have addictions to eating, shopping, sex, gambling- but none are judged as much as a drug addict.

To watch the recovery process and meet people on the other side and celebrate their new sober life is awesome and truly an honor!
shelly Losee

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Apr 8, 2011
Get Real wrote:
The Pioneer Press needs to come up with some better reporting. I am sick of hearing about these BS programs that enable these losers!!!
I see a lot of promises and not a lot of action. So a 24 year old single mother has just finished her GED and this is a success story?!?
She says that she is going to enroll in Inver Hills Community College. That's great to hear, but they let anyone in that school. You don't even have to know English and they'll let you in. I wonder who is going to pick up the tab for her tuition? I can bet it won't be her.
She is about to get her own apartment. Again that's nice, but why should my tax dollars go to pay for this ladies apartment.
No where in this article does it say anything about this lady having a job. Although I bet if you browse the erotic services ad's on backpage you just may find her there.
You'd rather spend your tax dollars on housing addicts in prison i guess. by the way, that costs more. Get real?

Many addicts have been abused or truamatized as children and never gained the coping skills or the love to move through life in a postive way. Maybe you have less judgement toward abused children? but not once they grow up- because I suppose something magic happens when they turn 18 and they suddenly have great self esteems and know just how to be successful.

it's a shame you can't celebrate Jennifer's story of success. I can only imagine what your story is.
lool

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Apr 8, 2011
I knew somone would throw tax dollars into this. Now this thread is is doomed.

I think the guy clearly Trolling Reverend J who said.
"i would want to have sex with these people to deem if they are worthy of society "
was far more interesting.

Ugh why cant people go back to doing better drugs. Meth is le weak.
Cozmo Kramer

Duluth, MN

#15 Apr 8, 2011
Get Real wrote:
No where in this article does it say anything about this lady having a job. Although I bet if you browse the erotic services ad's on backpage you just may find her there.
And you have this clueless opinion based on what.....the tooth fairy told you?
GOD BLESS TEXAS

Huntsville, TX

#18 Apr 8, 2011
Get Real wrote:
The Pioneer Press needs to come up with some better reporting. I am sick of hearing about these BS programs that enable these losers!!!
I see a lot of promises and not a lot of action. So a 24 year old single mother has just finished her GED and this is a success story?!?
She says that she is going to enroll in Inver Hills Community College. That's great to hear, but they let anyone in that school. You don't even have to know English and they'll let you in. I wonder who is going to pick up the tab for her tuition? I can bet it won't be her.
She is about to get her own apartment. Again that's nice, but why should my tax dollars go to pay for this ladies apartment.
No where in this article does it say anything about this lady having a job. Although I bet if you browse the erotic services ad's on backpage you just may find her there.
AMEN TO THAT, Minnesota is such a bleeding heart state. In my personal opinion, how is a person ever going to learn self respect and self worth if they depend on the state to support them and their children? i'm sure the state did pick up the tab for her rehabilitation, GED, HOUSING, COURT FEES, ECT...an enabling tactic too make it easier for the "next relapse", I can just depend on the system to "rehabilitate me". I was a single mother up in Minnesota, and believe me the welfare system is the best!! I didn't learn self respect and self worth until I moved to Texas. There's no programs like that mentioned in this article. You do it yourself, you pay the price for your own mistakes! No free court system if you get in trouble, No welfare system to pay for housing, treatment, ect. Doing it completely on your own by working, and not depending on society to fix your problems, really made me a strong person and learn self worth and self respect which in turn reflects on my children. They too will learn that society doesn't owe them. You make mistakes in life you pay the consequences!!! and believe you me, 99% of the time, you won't make the same mistate twice if you don't have society, and tax payers cleaning up your mess!!

God Bless Texas!
1163rieh

Alma Center, WI

#19 Apr 8, 2011
Congratulations to all here. I hope this can be a future model for other counties as well.
Elizabeth

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Apr 8, 2011
I'm happy for her child. Her child now has 1,000% percent better chance of following in her mother's positive foot steps, instead of 1,000% percent better chance of becoming a meth addict.
1163rieh

Alma Center, WI

#21 Apr 8, 2011
While most people agree that the pull up your pants and do it yourself approach works, I'm willing to give people a chance and help out if there trying to recover. Loosen up grumpy :)
Get Real wrote:
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What exactly is your point? First off, the Minnesota criminal justice system is a joke. When it comes to drug offenses, people like Jenny Brown would never spend a day in prison. Maybe a few weeks in County Jail and that's about it. So your point about prison isn't even a valid one.
And when you say it is a shame I cannot celebrate Jenny's sucess story, what sucesses are you talking about? Are you referring to her completing her GED at the age of 24? Because wow, that's a huge success! Most people, who are productive members of society, graduate high school at 18. Do you know anything about the GED progams that this state offers? Well they are a joke. Your average 6th grader could make it through the programs.
Or by her success, do you mean that she elected to go through a drug treatment program rather than lose her kid? Because that alone should qualify her for mother of the year! Or finding housing which is paid by the taxpayers? Or signing up for community college classes. Because the application process at Inver Hills is probably a whole 15 minutes. Now that's what I call success!!!
Gipper

United States

#22 Apr 8, 2011
At:What exactly is your point? First off, the Minnesota criminal justice system is a joke. When it comes to drug offenses, people like Jenny Brown would never spend a day in prison. Maybe a few weeks in County Jail and that's about it. So your point about prison isn't even a valid one.

And when you say it is a shame I cannot celebrate Jenny's sucess story, what sucesses are you talking about? Are you referring to her completing her GED at the age of 24? Because wow, that's a huge success! Most people, who are productive members of society, graduate high school at 18. Do you know anything about the GED progams that this state offers? Well they are a joke. Your average 6th grader could make it through the programs.

Or by her success, do you mean that she elected to go through a drug treatment program rather than lose her kid? Because that alone should qualify her for mother of the year! Or finding housing which is paid by the taxpayers? Or signing up for community college classes. Because the application process at Inver Hills is probably a whole 15 minutes. Now that's what I call success!!!

Very quick to point out what is defined as not a success from your standpoint..... But I think her children would disagree. I would like to know what solution that you bring to the table or might suggest??? So often we can scream it does not work... but that same person contributes nothing to the solution..... Kind of reminds me of lessons long ago... If I have nothing good to say about someone say nothing at all....it keeps us from sounding ignorant to the problems and solutions.
Jennifer Brown

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Apr 8, 2011
You know its crazy what people have to say when they have no idea about that individual.You just wait I'm gonna make a difference in this world and save peoples life's who struggle with addiction... I've been through hell and back and I'm here to pass on the message. That is a success in many peoples life's... "What lies before you, and what lies behind you are tiny matters to what lies within you" Words cant explain the miracles and opportunities my life experiences have opened Sooo Many doors for success in my life... I'm not just sitting around being sober, I'm working the program and making progress in recovery!!! "Life is Good, Life is Great, Life has given me all I Create" So for the ones who don't have nothing good to say why don't you take a reality check in the mirror at your own self because you obviously have NO IDEA!!!
Jennifer Brown

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Apr 8, 2011
Labratt wrote:
Good luck in you sobriety, and your ambitious life plan Jenny.
Thank you!!!
ummm

Saint Paul, MN

#25 Apr 8, 2011
Jennifer Brown wrote:
You know its crazy what people have to say when they have no idea about that individual.You just wait I'm gonna make a difference in this world and save peoples life's who struggle with addiction... I've been through hell and back and I'm here to pass on the message. That is a success in many peoples life's... "What lies before you, and what lies behind you are tiny matters to what lies within you" Words cant explain the miracles and opportunities my life experiences have opened Sooo Many doors for success in my life... I'm not just sitting around being sober, I'm working the program and making progress in recovery!!! "Life is Good, Life is Great, Life has given me all I Create" So for the ones who don't have nothing good to say why don't you take a reality check in the mirror at your own self because you obviously have NO IDEA!!!
First of all, it's "lives", not "life's".
Second, it's folks like you (9 months in recovery and ready to "save" the world) that are truly dangerous to society. Many, many of us work hard at our sobriety for many years before we feel ready to truly sponsor someone else, much less "save their lives".

Good for you for working a program. Good for you for keeping clean for this SHORT TIME. But remember life is out there and you can't save anyone but yourself. By thinking you're gonna save everyone else, you're putting your own sobriety at risk.
Vikings Fan

Hudson, WI

#26 Apr 8, 2011
First of all, stay strong Jenny! People who are capable of such negativity and bitterness aren't worthy of a second thought. When I encounter people like that (ie, Get Real) I just think about how much it would suck to be them; angry, bitter and judgemental. The true shame is not that people make mistakes and work to overcome them; it's that people choose to live in such a mean, judgemental place. So don't let negative people bring you down along with them. Just keep doing the right thing!
Keri P

Minneapolis, MN

#27 Apr 8, 2011
Jennifer Brown wrote:
You know its crazy what people have to say when they have no idea about that individual.You just wait I'm gonna make a difference in this world and save peoples life's who struggle with addiction... I've been through hell and back and I'm here to pass on the message. That is a success in many peoples life's... "What lies before you, and what lies behind you are tiny matters to what lies within you" Words cant explain the miracles and opportunities my life experiences have opened Sooo Many doors for success in my life... I'm not just sitting around being sober, I'm working the program and making progress in recovery!!! "Life is Good, Life is Great, Life has given me all I Create" So for the ones who don't have nothing good to say why don't you take a reality check in the mirror at your own self because you obviously have NO IDEA!!!
What an awesome plan Jennifer! Don't respond to any more of the negativity- they have never dreamed as large and full as you. And anyway -you said it all right there!
Jennifer Brown

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Apr 8, 2011
ummm wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, it's "lives", not "life's".
Second, it's folks like you (9 months in recovery and ready to "save" the world) that are truly dangerous to society. Many, many of us work hard at our sobriety for many years before we feel ready to truly sponsor someone else, much less "save their lives".
Good for you for working a program. Good for you for keeping clean for this SHORT TIME. But remember life is out there and you can't save anyone but yourself. By thinking you're gonna save everyone else, you're putting your own sobriety at risk.
I said I was passing on the message telling my story I didn't say I was sponsoring people. Also I'm early in my sobriety YES But give me a couple years and I will be helping people struggling with addiction and if I saved one persons life that's worth it to me because it takes one person to create a chain reaction called "Pay it forward" havent you heard of that?
a grandma

Minneapolis, MN

#29 Apr 8, 2011
Jennifer Brown wrote:
You know its crazy what people have to say when they have no idea about that individual.You just wait I'm gonna make a difference in this world and save peoples life's who struggle with addiction... I've been through hell and back and I'm here to pass on the message. That is a success in many peoples life's... "What lies before you, and what lies behind you are tiny matters to what lies within you" Words cant explain the miracles and opportunities my life experiences have opened Sooo Many doors for success in my life... I'm not just sitting around being sober, I'm working the program and making progress in recovery!!! "Life is Good, Life is Great, Life has given me all I Create" So for the ones who don't have nothing good to say why don't you take a reality check in the mirror at your own self because you obviously have NO IDEA!!!
Why did you use meth?
Curmudgeon

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Apr 8, 2011
How much does this cost per person, for so few helped?

Looks like it could hit the chopping block.
Jennifer Brown

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Apr 8, 2011
Vikings Fan wrote:
First of all, stay strong Jenny! People who are capable of such negativity and bitterness aren't worthy of a second thought. When I encounter people like that (ie, Get Real) I just think about how much it would suck to be them; angry, bitter and judgemental. The true shame is not that people make mistakes and work to overcome them; it's that people choose to live in such a mean, judgemental place. So don't let negative people bring you down along with them. Just keep doing the right thing!
Thank you so much i really appreciate the positive feedback Thank you

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