Nomads among us: the suburban homeless

Nomads among us: the suburban homeless

There are 119 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 28, 2011, titled Nomads among us: the suburban homeless. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The last time Nickolas Conrad had a home was 11 years ago. Since then, the 40-year-old has lived in halfway houses, in treatment centers, in prison and on people's couches.

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harold petersen

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Mar 28, 2011
i wouldnt mind hosting someone honest,giving them place to live and helping them get a new start in life!

Since: Dec 10

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Mar 28, 2011
Sad story, our country is declining fast. the people have no jobs to work, no hope for life, and our debt soars. While we waste millions helping other countries, our roads and bridges are crumbling. We need to invest in our country only, no more foreign aid. We must rebuild our once great nation so that everyone of all cultures and ranks can once again achieve the American Dream of having a steady job, a home, and a loving family.

Since: Jan 11

Huntsville, AL

#3 Mar 28, 2011
harold petersen wrote:
i wouldnt mind hosting someone honest,giving them place to live and helping them get a new start in life!
We need more people like you Harold!! Way to look out for your fellow man!
vomit pig

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Mar 29, 2011
i don't care. i got my own problems.
CamelTow

Calgary, Canada

#6 Mar 29, 2011
NotHappy2PayMore wrote:
These people are bums. They have no intentions of changing their lives. Get off your **** and get to work. If you can't find a job then be creative and start your own. Its easier to soak of society than to get a job. BUMS
wow, now here's a sensitve fellow..........
Realist

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Mar 29, 2011
There are many of these sad stories. This is where state aid should go.

Not to greedy football owners.
hollyrohr123

Chantilly, VA

#8 Mar 29, 2011
Unemployment in construction is 21.2%, I wish these guys would tell the truth. We all need to education ourself in this tough market only way is a degree or change your career.. search online for "High Speed University" for career advice

“Great place to live”

Since: Jan 09

Grand Rapids, MN

#9 Mar 29, 2011
"County social worker is helping him get Social Security"? Great, another person not contributing to society on the dole for 40-50 years. Is there any question why we are in deep do do.
no poor here

United States

#10 Mar 29, 2011
Poverty is a relative thing and there are no poor in this counry. Anyone who has traveled to the Third World knows what real poverty is. Heck, those people don't have clothes or shelter or any source of food (soup kitchens etc), nor do they have a MASSIVE GOVERNMENT STEALING FROM THE PRODUCERS AND GIVING TO THE "NEEDY", as there is in this country.

No doubt some people like this criminal need help, especially if such people want to amend their ways. But any help HAS TO be done at the most local level. YOU have a responsibility to get to know your "homeless" and help those who are in your area if they are the deserving poor (i.e. not using your handouts to get a fix or another drink). It is not the Feds who have that responsibility. No charity comes from government action (tough luck P. Wellstone)

Commit crimes, use drugs, or simply be irresponsible and lazy and this is the sort of horror you can expect out of life.

Since: Apr 09

St. Paul, Minnesota

#11 Mar 29, 2011
harold petersen wrote:
i wouldnt mind hosting someone honest,giving them place to live and helping them get a new start in life!
This is very Christian of you, but how do you know who is honest? Elizabeth Smart's father took in a homeless derelict who ended up kidnapping his daughter, and many Katrina survivors ended up robbing the very people who had been kind enough to put up total strangers. At least you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem - kudos sir!
Parnelli Jones

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Mar 29, 2011
Several years ago, I believe in the 70's, it was decided through a class action lawsuit that the mentally ill either should not, or could not be forced to submit to a supervised, or imposed secure facility for treatment. As a result the streets literally flooded with individuals who suffer from many forms of mental illnesses.
They are in many cases dangerous not only to others but to themselves.
They become victims of people who prey upon them for any number of things; i.e., their money, property, sex, etc.
Similarly, alcohol and drug abusers were given status as having a disease.

The foregoing opened up what literally has become a huge industry; i.e., treatment facilities, halfway houses and various and sundry programs all designed to fix these problems. What it has done is suck huge amounts of money from the taxpayers and private foundations, and done little to alleviate the problem. In fact it appears these problems are increasing along with the monies spent.

Adding to all of this is the wasteful, and highly unsuccessful welfare system from which millions of people are draining our resources and our treasury. Toss in the illegals who we seem to feel deserve their share of the pie and we have a system which is broken and spiraling out of control on a daily basis.

There is no quick fix, but the mentally ill for the most part have no choice. The drug and alcohol abusers do, and the people who have chosen welfare as their lifestyle also have. The illegals are just plain exploitive.

Social engineering at its best has failed miserably.
Social engineering at its best

“Obamacs at it's finest!”

Since: Mar 09

Anytown, Minnesota........

#13 Mar 29, 2011
870girl wrote:
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This is very Christian of you, but how do you know who is honest? Elizabeth Smart's father took in a homeless derelict who ended up kidnapping his daughter, and many Katrina survivors ended up robbing the very people who had been kind enough to put up total strangers. At least you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem - kudos sir!
gee, Katrina "victims" robbing those who tried to help them, never saw that coming.
Seriously, everytime someone mentions Katrina it drives me nuts. A friend of mine worked for a construction company and they volunteered their time and money to go south to help them. First night there they had their trucks vandalized and all their tools stolen. Here they spent their own time and money, gas, ETC to drive down to help their fellow man and that is how they were treated, nice huh? All we ever heard from those folks as how we forgot about them, they are not being helped ETC and well, now we know why. Do you hear the Japanese people whining at all? NO.
OK, I'll stop ranting now, mention of Katrina always gets me fired up, can you tell?
robert

Schaumburg, IL

#14 Mar 29, 2011
Parnelli Jones wrote:
Several years ago, I believe in the 70's, it was decided through a class action lawsuit that the mentally ill either should not, or could not be forced to submit to a supervised, or imposed secure facility for treatment. As a result the streets literally flooded with individuals who suffer from many forms of mental illnesses.
They are in many cases dangerous not only to others but to themselves.
They become victims of people who prey upon them for any number of things; i.e., their money, property, sex, etc.
Similarly, alcohol and drug abusers were given status as having a disease.
The foregoing opened up what literally has become a huge industry; i.e., treatment facilities, halfway houses and various and sundry programs all designed to fix these problems. What it has done is suck huge amounts of money from the taxpayers and private foundations, and done little to alleviate the problem. In fact it appears these problems are increasing along with the monies spent.
Adding to all of this is the wasteful, and highly unsuccessful welfare system from which millions of people are draining our resources and our treasury. Toss in the illegals who we seem to feel deserve their share of the pie and we have a system which is broken and spiraling out of control on a daily basis.
There is no quick fix, but the mentally ill for the most part have no choice. The drug and alcohol abusers do, and the people who have chosen welfare as their lifestyle also have. The illegals are just plain exploitive.
Social engineering at its best has failed miserably.
Social engineering at its best
you are absolutely right. the great Ronald Regan is responsible for a lot of this. I love how the republicans love the guy, marked as one of the greatest presidents, just wait, history will not be kind to him. He put many mentally ill people out in the streets. don't kid yourselves most of these street people are ill.
TheGolfGuy

Apopka, FL

#15 Mar 29, 2011
In the story it mentions that Conrad just celebrated a year of sobriety, the longest yet. It also mentions he spent more than two years in prison. Am I to believe you can drink and do drugs while in prison?
The Analyst

South Elgin, IL

#16 Mar 29, 2011
"A county social worker also is helping Conrad, who has been diagnosed as bipolar, apply for Social Security so he can afford a home when he leaves the shelter. "

Reward his bad behavior by buying him a house? Really?

That is wrong on every level.
Facts

Maple Grove, MN

#17 Mar 29, 2011
I worked at a shelter. Most have a similar story...drugs/alcohol, etc. No mention in this article...but they've burned all of their bridges...parents/family/frien ds/don't want them because of their various vices and bad behavior. Many do not want to work or can't hold a job. So, it's up to us to support them for the rest of their lives? Some do have mental problems and do need our support. The "trick" is sorting out the scammers and lazy ones vs. the ones who truly do need our help.
ADAM

Hillsboro, OR

#18 Mar 29, 2011
HOMELESS = BUMS - PERIOD !
HuskerMac

Nogales, AZ

#20 Mar 29, 2011
The Analyst wrote:
"A county social worker also is helping Conrad, who has been diagnosed as bipolar, apply for Social Security so he can afford a home when he leaves the shelter. "
Reward his bad behavior by buying him a house? Really?
That is wrong on every level.
Bipolar disorder is a mental illness. It is not poor behavior. With the right medication this individual can live a productive life and support himself. Unfortunately Social Security has to be part of that.

Since: Dec 10

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#22 Mar 29, 2011
harold petersen wrote:
i wouldnt mind hosting someone honest,giving them place to live and helping them get a new start in life!
Easy to say.. tougher to do.
BigD

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Mar 29, 2011
Sitting down for a good Bible read must be Nick's way of unwinding after a day of helping old ladies cross the street.
Wow PP, you really know how to pose them!

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