Reasonable debate for a reasonable nation

There are 20 comments on the Apr 21, 2011, TwinCities.com story titled Reasonable debate for a reasonable nation. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Edward Lotterman, always a voice of economic reason in an ocean of invective, suggests elimination of Medicare Part D and Medicare Advantage plans, which would reduce deficits by $750 to $900 billion over a 10- or 12-year period .

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1 Apr 21, 2011
Sadly, benjamin cherryhomes, we will not learn. Every year we destroy as much habitat in the Gulf as the oil spill did and we keep doing it year after year after year after year....

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Apr 22, 2011
Robbin Ann Rosén, your argument that the young, elderly, disabled and minorities do not have is intolerant in itself? Why, Robbin, would young folks not have identification? Well, if they are too young to vote, then they may not - but that would go against liberal intuition. Robbin, are disabled folks not allowed to have identification? Same goes for minorities....do they have a tougher time getting identification? Only if they're illegal...Robbin, time to put the pen away if this is the quality of letters we're going to see from you.

“Charity is a Personal Choice”

Since: Mar 08

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Apr 22, 2011
MIke Clay,

You ask some very valid questions,

"Are we morally prepared to allow people to die because they cannot afford the drugs necessary to live?" First, every knows that know gov't program will prevent people from dying. In this debate, WE ALL fail to recognize this fact. Second, the Medicare prescription drug programs don't just address "life and death" drugs or pain control for easing end of life suffering. They include drugs from salves to Viagra...hardly life and death drug needs. I don't think the taxpayers should fund quality of life conditions such as toe nail fungus or impotence. And we all know about the abuse of prescription pain meds.

"...are we economically prepared to offer a needs-based replacement of the Medicare drug programs?" Currently there is this mentality that these people have a right any and all meds for free and pennies on the dollar. Frankly, if this so-called needs based program is to help them, I would wager a goo chunk of these people been on the dole for some time. There be a limit to the amount of goodwill these people consume.
JUST THE FACTS

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Apr 22, 2011
Robbin, you were correct the 'voting system has worked for decades'; however recently, when organizations like ACORN iniated their voter registration drives did the environment change which has made necessary system CHANGE. I HOPE this helps.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#5 Apr 22, 2011
JUST THE FACTS wrote:
Robbin, you were correct the 'voting system has worked for decades'; however recently, when organizations like ACORN iniated their voter registration drives did the environment change which has made necessary system CHANGE. I HOPE this helps.
Did ACORN get many people to vote illegally? How would this issue change what you believe ACORN did or did not do?(for $20 million)

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Apr 22, 2011
JUST THE FACTS wrote:
Robbin, you were correct the 'voting system has worked for decades'; however recently, when organizations like ACORN iniated their voter registration drives did the environment change which has made necessary system CHANGE. I HOPE this helps.
Although Robbin's post doesn't show this, I'm sure she's smart enough to realize that if voter ID passes, the left will have a very hard time cheating in elections.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#7 Apr 22, 2011
Copy Books wrote:
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Although Robbin's post doesn't show this, I'm sure she's smart enough to realize that if voter ID passes, the left will have a very hard time cheating in elections.
You have proof of cheating in past elections? why have you not brought your credible information to the proper authorities?(we know why) why do you think it would only be people of one political bent that would cheat in a n election? Biased much?
JUST THE FACTS

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Apr 22, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Did ACORN get many people to vote illegally? How would this issue change what you believe ACORN did or did not do?(for $20 million)
$20M fix to assure one vote per MN voter is a rather inexpensive fix given the money spent at the state capitol.

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Apr 22, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>You have proof of cheating in past elections? why have you not brought your credible information to the proper authorities?(we know why) why do you think it would only be people of one political bent that would cheat in a n election? Biased much?
Really Woodtick? You haven't seen the lawsuits that ACORN has lost due to election fraud and voter registration fraud?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1241827506461...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/us/05acorn....
http://floridaindependent.com/27571/voter-fra...

Read up!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#10 Apr 22, 2011
JUST THE FACTS wrote:
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$20M fix to assure one vote per MN voter is a rather inexpensive fix given the money spent at the state capitol.
Funny! It's only a few million, but it's for something I want that will solve a problem no-one has proved exists. i see where our budget got to where it is now....
JUST THE FACTS

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Apr 22, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Funny! It's only a few million, but it's for something I want that will solve a problem no-one has proved exists. i see where our budget got to where it is now....
I apologize. I did not realize you were a fiscal conservative. I was just thinking of all of the jobs which would be created by the new system implimentation.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#12 Apr 22, 2011
JUST THE FACTS wrote:
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I apologize. I did not realize you were a fiscal conservative. I was just thinking of all of the jobs which would be created by the new system implimentation.
Now you know that I am a fiscal conservative. Always have been, always will be. Show me a real reason to spend this money and i might be for it.

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Apr 22, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Now you know that I am a fiscal conservative. Always have been, always will be. Show me a real reason to spend this money and i might be for it.
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Fiscally conservative when it comes to implementing voter identification. Convenient.
Gndydncr

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Apr 22, 2011
We all can scream and holler at each other all we want on this forum and the chances that it will do much good are pretty slim execpt that it lets us vent a little and that's not all bad.

However, once I get in that voting booth, that's where my choices make a real difference and I don't want those choices to be corrupted or diluted by a bunch of fraudulent votes.

If I understand the abbreviations correctly, posters are claiming that the implementation of photo voter ID is going to cost $20 million. We had a little over 2 million voters in the last election. I'd be more than happy to pony up $10 for a once in a lifetime, for all time, fee to make it happen. Matter of fact, I'd be willing to cover the tab for four or five others, if necessary.

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Apr 22, 2011
Gndydncr wrote:
We all can scream and holler at each other all we want on this forum and the chances that it will do much good are pretty slim execpt that it lets us vent a little and that's not all bad.
However, once I get in that voting booth, that's where my choices make a real difference and I don't want those choices to be corrupted or diluted by a bunch of fraudulent votes.
If I understand the abbreviations correctly, posters are claiming that the implementation of photo voter ID is going to cost $20 million. We had a little over 2 million voters in the last election. I'd be more than happy to pony up $10 for a once in a lifetime, for all time, fee to make it happen. Matter of fact, I'd be willing to cover the tab for four or five others, if necessary.
According to Woodtick, there has never been any voter fraud.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#16 Apr 22, 2011
Copy Books wrote:
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According to Woodtick, there has never been any voter fraud.
Again, show me anedd and i might back the expenditure. has there been enough voter fraud to consider this expenditure?

i have always been a fiscal conservative on all issues, not just this one. My past comments on these pages back that up completely.
Deadeye Dick

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Apr 22, 2011
Copy Books wrote:
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According to Woodtick, there has never been any voter fraud.
Here's where the real election fraud is. Think back to the CEO of Diebold (voting machine maker) writing that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Apr 22, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Again, show me anedd and i might back the expenditure. has there been enough voter fraud to consider this expenditure?
i have always been a fiscal conservative on all issues, not just this one. My past comments on these pages back that up completely.
Seriously Woodtick? I just posted a few links as examples of voter fraud in which they have been fined by states, and eventually defunded by the federal gov't. If you choose not to pay attention to such acts of fraud, then I'm basically discussing this with a wall.
Ted

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Apr 22, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Again, show me anedd and i might back the expenditure. has there been enough voter fraud to consider this expenditure?
i have always been a fiscal conservative on all issues, not just this one. My past comments on these pages back that up completely.
Why is your location hidder? What do you have to hid? What are you afraid of?

Since: Apr 11

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Apr 22, 2011
Deadeye Dick wrote:
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Here's where the real election fraud is. Think back to the CEO of Diebold (voting machine maker) writing that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mq9WVuKGwOMXX
That's deplorable. Glad he was prosecuted.

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