Backtalk: 6/4/2010

There are 9 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Jun 4, 2010, titled Backtalk: 6/4/2010. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

For the first time since 1992, school officials are opening Chelmsford High to teens living out of town.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Lowell Sun.

OnceChelmsford

Bedford, MA

#1 Jun 4, 2010
They are doing it to save jobs in a town with a shrinking student population. My tax dollars at work again care of the Chumpsford School Committee. gee thanks....
OnceChelmsford

Bedford, MA

#2 Jun 4, 2010
How is it that when all the other towns are making budget cuts we find a way to keep the status quo intact? How much of an increase do you want this year or the next? when will you ask for another override from a town already burdened with high taxes? take in another 25-50 outsiders? Then you will become a private school for cripes sake. Is there anybody in Chelmsford with the ballz to oust this SC?
StillChelmsford

Waltham, MA

#3 Jun 4, 2010
OnceChelmsford, do you even read the articles before you start bashing the schools? This proposal is BRINGING MONEY IN. It makes an override less likely, not more likely. And yes, more teachers is good, not bad.

By the way, there's been a 40% turnover on the School Committee in the last two years. And the new ones are Vice Chair and Secretary. If you still don't like it, maybe it's time for you to go.
Hal

Malden, MA

#4 Jun 4, 2010
the arrogance of this town and this state is stunning! Who the hell wants to pay to go to a mediocre school like chelmsford? you have to be kidding me!? I am seriously considering taking my kids out of this system. Went to a middle school function last week and my kid's teacher is 23, wearing capri jeans and flip-flops with her hair in pig tails!!! I couldn't tell her apart form the students.
and the liberal pro-immigrant spin that comes home from "classroom discussions" is maddening.

Give me a voucher and let me get my kids out of there, then you will have more slots for the illegal anchor baby from Guatemala!
Follow it up

Boston, MA

#5 Jun 4, 2010
Hal wrote:
the arrogance of this town and this state is stunning! Who the hell wants to pay to go to a mediocre school like chelmsford? you have to be kidding me!? I am seriously considering taking my kids out of this system. Went to a middle school function last week and my kid's teacher is 23, wearing capri jeans and flip-flops with her hair in pig tails!!! I couldn't tell her apart form the students.
and the liberal pro-immigrant spin that comes home from "classroom discussions" is maddening.
Give me a voucher and let me get my kids out of there, then you will have more slots for the illegal anchor baby from Guatemala!
Do the research and get back to us on which school districts perform better than Chelmsford by any standard you choose. I look forward to your response.
OnceChelmsford

Bedford, MA

#6 Jun 4, 2010
StillChelmsford wrote:
OnceChelmsford, do you even read the articles before you start bashing the schools? This proposal is BRINGING MONEY IN. It makes an override less likely, not more likely. And yes, more teachers is good, not bad.
By the way, there's been a 40% turnover on the School Committee in the last two years. And the new ones are Vice Chair and Secretary. If you still don't like it, maybe it's time for you to go.
I have lived in this town far to long to not realize that they are only doing it for themselves. Bringing money in? 75K? thats chump change and they will still be looking for another override so they can get their entitlement raises. I also agree with the poster who said we have radical liberal trash teachers in the chelmsford schools teaching them all kinds of ludicrous bs. First off Yeoman should be fired, but nobody has any ballz to do it. Secondly they should give people vouchers to choose the schools that they want. I have even met many homeschoolers that are much smarter than the Chelmsford public schools kids by far. As for me I will stay and fight for the things that made this town great once, until liberals moved in and ruined it.
OnceChelmsford

Bedford, MA

#7 Jun 4, 2010
Follow it up wrote:
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Do the research and get back to us on which school districts perform better than Chelmsford by any standard you choose. I look forward to your response.
And whose standards are right? The top student in Middlesex was home schooled, probably the same with every college around.
Caution on School Choice

Chelmsford, MA

#8 Jun 4, 2010
First and foremost, schools participate in school choice to get the money from the state and sending districts. In practice though, the students who ~often~ elect to enroll in school choice at the high school level (leave their district and attend the receiving district) are those students who are not successful in their sending district. Often, but not always, because of disciplinary issues. The Lowell students who attend Nashoba Tech are frequently students who were expelled from or not accepted (because of a discplinary history) to Lowell Voke. That said, Chelmsford will be receiving unsuccessful students from surrounding towns.

While it is nice to think that Chelmsford is such an extraordinary school system that it will be able to help these students become successful, without stresses on the system itself, in reality, these students typically stress the school system.

How the application process is defined will tell us more. If the application process restricts school choice to regular education students who do not have a history of discipline issues, then it will probably be fine. If however the application process is open and equitable to students with learning or emotional disabilities or a history of discpline issues, then the stresses on and costs to CHS will outweigh the revenue received for the intake of out of district students. That may sound elitist or be snobbery, but it is a fact that special education and alternative education do cost more and Chelmsford does SPED very well compared to surrounding, potentially sending towns and cities. If I were a parent near the Chelmsford border of Lowell,Tyngsboro or Billerica of a special ed or at risk student, I'd be signing up right now to get my child into Chelmsford High School.
Fred

Lowell, MA

#9 Jun 4, 2010
OnceChelmsford wrote:
How is it that when all the other towns are making budget cuts we find a way to keep the status quo intact??
Where have you been? Closed a school, teachers and administrators laid off...less staffing in all municipal areas...lowest public safety staffing in a decade..... is that the "Status quo"? Have you even noticed what has gone on in the town over the past 3 years?

What we have are teachers and employees of the town who are going the extra mile to keep the quality of life high.

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