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Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

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Israeli troops began withdrawing from the Gaza Strip on Sunday after Hamas declared a cease-fire, setting the stage for intensified international efforts to arrange a durable truce after a 22-day war against ...

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TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#71975 Sep 12, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
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Caring about people in his life? These words in a box? You put faces on them? bawhaahah Woe is me.
Here's one.
http://www.google.com/imgres...
Yep, that's him all right.
freedom Terrister

Naperville, IL

#71976 Sep 12, 2013
freedom Terrister wrote:
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nah, Daunton Abbey is masterpiece theatre. respectably crafted but ANTI-gripping :)
I agree that Buscemi is a pretty good choice as Nucky, helping elevate IMO otherwise pretty ordinary material... which just underscores the importance of lead/central casting. You'd be surprised how many projects get this one wrong, 100+ mill budgets, renowned cinematographers & art directors, CGI, distribution all lined up years in advance, the works --> and yet the whole thing is sabotaged by getting the lead actor(s) wrong.
In TV realm, it's arguably even more important, because you may have 10 years to spend with the same characters, and allocated budgets & production schedules are razor tight, so you better have some real unique presence, charisma & preferably raw talent as the face of the franchise, or it's DOA (like most pilots statistically are).
Where would Mad Men be without Don Draper? Sopranos without Gandolfini? Breaking Bad without Woodrow Wilson or Willie Wonka, LOL? Homeland without Lewis?
For that matter, Dexter without Michael C. Hall and I would argue also Jennifer Carpenter, is just another police-procedural.
Anyway don't wanna bore you with this shizzle. Let's instead partake in Dexter's early season nemesis St. Doakes who unlike everyone else saw right through Dexter's carefully-cultivated harmless blood-spatter geek facade
(remember for most of the series, Debra Morgan doesn't just NOT suspect her older brother of being this monster, she absolutely worships the guy and feels jealous that their dearly departed old-school police officer father Harry gave him all the attention growing up, hence major daddy issues, haha.... of course the reason why Harry spent all his time on Dexter and not Debra, is he knew Dexter was destined to be a serial killer since childhood and desperately tried to keep him from killing other children ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ws59nvI6OukXX
...and posts 68 and 71 are back again on this screen. hee

this place is nice guilty pleasure nook, but all the hide-n-seek is one thing I don't miss. No wonder Voice of Peace has gone mad as a hatter over disappearing messages long ago:)

back to earth-shatteringly important TV candy, yo.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#71977 Sep 12, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, that's him all right.
He's reported as being about 18. That can't possibly be him/her. But, we never know. Do we? See what happens when you put imagined faces on typed characters in a rectangle? If I try real hard, I can do this. Let me see. I'll do you. A younger version, Crustacean. Am I close? Be honest, now. After all, you may like my new direction. My NEW direction.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#71978 Sep 12, 2013
And, Commander, it ain't Conan. Just diffusing your misdirection.
freedom Terrister

Naperville, IL

#71979 Sep 12, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, I dunno...maybe it's the shift from being chased in here by the people he's currently pissing off to being responsible and caring about the people in his life. Cantankerous looks like zhit on an old fart like you so it definitely looked out of place on him.
thanks

and yet you hold it against me that I care about fictional people, too. is caring/empathy good or not good? pick a lane, Commander.

like, see, psychopaths like Dexter and Ayatollahs like Khamenei they are severely lacking in empathy department. so for them to frame an innocent cop for murder or to build enrichment facilities near civilians in, say, Qom, is no big deal.

but for people like Deb, it's unbearable on the conscious.(i tried the link again, it works now btw)

from 36:40 to 46:30
http://vidto.me/nf1bsqyctwh8.html

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71980 Sep 12, 2013
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Thank god we no longer keep an address at the Strip. Otherwise, for sure we would have to pay da'parking ticket..

**Cairo accuses Gaza's Hamas of training Egyptian militants**

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/...
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb )

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Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71981 Sep 12, 2013
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..adaptation to Heine Heirich's maximma..

Where they have closed Hard Rock Cafe's .... they will end up burning, gassing and/or bombing human beings.. specially if those human beings are Christians or Sunnis..

**Sunday night saw an end to that legacy as Hard Rock Cafe Beirut cashed out its guitar-shaped bar for the last time.**

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Culture/Lifestyle...
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb )

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71982 Sep 12, 2013
..Heine Heinrich..

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71983 Sep 12, 2013
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Thank god we sold all our stocks at Starkist.. Otherwise, for sure we would be liable ...

http://urlybits.com/2013/06/russian-tampon-co...

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Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71984 Sep 12, 2013
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Puttain asked me to translate this piece and post it at Topix.. and the N.Y. Times..

RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.

Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.

The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.
No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization.

The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims and escalation, potentially spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders. A strike would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance.

Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world.

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71985 Sep 12, 2013
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MERCENARIES from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all.

From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression.

No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored.

It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.”

But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes.

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71986 Sep 12, 2013
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No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect.

The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded.

We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement.

A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action.

I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations.

If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues.

My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.”

It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation.

There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too.

We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#71987 Sep 12, 2013
Heyzues Cristo!!! Somebody else on the payroll? Do you guys really get paid for this sh!t? Sorry VOP. How about some real crap? We already have Uzi. Gravy calls you guys shills, and I hate him. But, but, I'm smelling more than Gravy. On and on and on.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#71988 Sep 12, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
And, Commander, it ain't Conan. Just diffusing your misdirection.
oh no, I'm all misdiffused.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#71989 Sep 12, 2013
freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
thanks
and yet you hold it against me that I care about fictional people, too. is caring/empathy good or not good? pick a lane, Commander.
like, see, psychopaths like Dexter and Ayatollahs like Khamenei they are severely lacking in empathy department. so for them to frame an innocent cop for murder or to build enrichment facilities near civilians in, say, Qom, is no big deal.
but for people like Deb, it's unbearable on the conscious.(i tried the link again, it works now btw)
from 36:40 to 46:30
http://vidto.me/nf1bsqyctwh8.html
Homey don't install strange video players and I don't hold anything against you. Well, that time the dude stalked you back here was classic but I get that her empathy was the linchpin of the entire ensemble. Do you get that I like them with a little more meat and a little less potty mouth?

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71990 Sep 12, 2013
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Y...what's wrong with making some tax free extra pesetas, out of the misery of Assad and Puttain..??

... wait until you read this.. I am going to further hone the ideas on the piece below, during this morning compulsive praying at the neighborhood sinagogue ..
Last evening I had three thugs knock on my door and given me an offer that I can't refuse .. In two hours I have to be at the trench with my reading glasses and the best of my attitudes ...
..breakfast is optional.

----------

In addition to owing a diploma of savage mass murderer… Assad Jr. is also a mtthr fckkn liar that can be found on the facebook of history, on the list of Puttain's close friends..

Puttain's address to the N.Y. Times readers is of significant importance.
1 – He is throwing Russia's weight into the Syria blood bath in order to ascertain that his lot of real estate in Tartous remains untouched.
2 – By posting his plead in the illuminati's N.Y. Times nest, Puttain is showing his soft belly … impotence to negotiate with the U.S. Gov. a way out of the shitty situation he and his copain Assad got into by themselves.
3 - Puttain is opening to the free world, a window of opportunity to cut his wings down to their real size.
4 - This is a one in a century opportunity to kick Puttain's gracefully and with a smile where it hurts ...

I just hope that the extremely well paid civil servants at the White House and the State Department share with me these views and capitalize on the god given situation … by forcing Puttain and Assad to put 'collateral' at the counter … and as a gesture of good will:

- Russia has to refrain from supporting militarily the dictator of North Korea
- Russia has to FedEx, prepaid, door to door delivery … Edward Snowden
- Russia has to refrain from delivering and collaborating on the nuclear hobbies of everyone and all mtthr fckerrs within the Arab and Muslim communities of nations
- Russia has to warrant that Assad Jr. and his replacement(s) will let all minorities within Syria breath and breed.
- Syria will refrain from training, hosting and supporting terrorism in-house and for export..

… and after Yom Kippur, when I'm done downloading all my repent for all my sins accumulated during 5743, I might come up with some more issues to have the Russkies and the Assad Jr. regime collaborate with..

Assad Jr. got a huge blow on his chin, fall on the middle of the ring, got a count … and now he is bleeding from his nose .. and is being held with his back on the ropes ..(by Obama..?)

Don't let this opportunity flush down the sewage of history.

Since: Jun 10

Ramat Gan, Israel

#71991 Sep 12, 2013
..owning a diploma..
freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#71992 Sep 12, 2013
freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
thanks

and yet you hold it against me that I care about fictional people, too. is caring/empathy good or not good? pick a lane, Commander.

like, see, psychopaths like Dexter and Ayatollahs like Khamenei they are severely lacking in empathy department. so for them to frame an innocent cop for murder or to build enrichment facilities near civilians in, say, Qom, is no big deal.

but for people like Deb, it's unbearable on the conscious.(i tried the link again, it works now btw)

from 36:40 to 46:30
http://vidto.me/nf1bsqyctwh8.html
PS. Rinnisons Man, permit me a small - how to say in English? ah yes -- caveat:

now that I think about it, I also remember thinking at the time that we may be dealing with the ol' Ambrose Bierce switcheroo here: namely, when faced with an impossible choice in that shipping container at the end of season 7, Debra did NOT kill Cpt. Maria LaGuerta but rather her brother Dex, afterall.

And that the whole season 8 is actually a split-second of Dexter's pre-death final fantasy manifestation: right down to "spiritual mother" Dr. Vogel magically revealing herself out of nowhere as a weird retroactive-continuity gimmick to absolve Harry of his original sin of creating the killer that Dex became.... Deb almost killing herself with guilt but somehow recovering... the true love of his life Hannah also magically returning, strangely wearing same clothes she did then & not even bothering to wear disguise even though at that point she is a high-profile fugitive.... and now I find out that they are on their way to same dream destination from previous, Argentina.....

oh and now there is no doubt Dexter is no true un-feeling psychopath but actual human boy capable of feelings, real love & redemption as almost an anti-hero or even dare I say, a super-hero of sorts...

Is this Dallas viewers felt when the whole it's just a dream thing famously happened?!

Because, surresli, if anything remotely close to that outlined scenario happens.... kill me now ahahahaha!!!

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#71993 Sep 12, 2013
freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
PS. Rinnisons Man, permit me a small - how to say in English? ah yes -- caveat:
now that I think about it, I also remember thinking at the time that we may be dealing with the ol' Ambrose Bierce switcheroo here: namely, when faced with an impossible choice in that shipping container at the end of season 7, Debra did NOT kill Cpt. Maria LaGuerta but rather her brother Dex, afterall.
And that the whole season 8 is actually a split-second of Dexter's pre-death final fantasy manifestation: right down to "spiritual mother" Dr. Vogel magically revealing herself out of nowhere as a weird retroactive-continuity gimmick to absolve Harry of his original sin of creating the killer that Dex became.... Deb almost killing herself with guilt but somehow recovering... the true love of his life Hannah also magically returning, strangely wearing same clothes she did then & not even bothering to wear disguise even though at that point she is a high-profile fugitive.... and now I find out that they are on their way to same dream destination from previous, Argentina.....
oh and now there is no doubt Dexter is no true un-feeling psychopath but actual human boy capable of feelings, real love & redemption as almost an anti-hero or even dare I say, a super-hero of sorts...
Is this Dallas viewers felt when the whole it's just a dream thing famously happened?!
Because, surresli, if anything remotely close to that outlined scenario happens.... kill me now ahahahaha!!!
I was going to say it sounds familiar and I'm cool with it but now it will cause your death and I'm so conflicted.

OK...what if Argentina is code for hell and He's taking everyone he loves except Deb with him?
freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#71994 Sep 12, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Homey don't install strange video players and I don't hold anything against you. Well, that time the dude stalked you back here was classic but I get that her empathy was the linchpin of the entire ensemble. Do you get that I like them with a little more meat and a little less potty mouth?
no, no no for the love of both Allah the Merciful & Allah the Merciful 2: Electric Boogaloo, don't install or download anything or click on anything other than 'Proceed to video' or the Play button.

As long as you skip the ad or quickly close the ad pop-ups that opens up, the episode plays fine. Just forward to 36:40 mark to save yourself time.

Btw, I mean it, TRD. Ize is just being Ize, which is more than fine because this place would be less fun here if he/she weren't, but I appreciate your kind words in my defense nonetheless.

You and others may laugh, but I still consider you a friend even though I obviously don't know you and we never seem to agree on anything. As I get older, loyalty & friendship, empathy and other sentimental things take on more importance. And while it's true I do drop by here to just unwind a little and talk some silly sh!t about seemingly trivial things with strangers, I do hope that unlike earlier in this thread, I don't come off as (quite as big) a know-it-all bastage who at times had fun at other people's expense -- no matter if it was justified or not.

Then again, in my defense paraphrasing Tennessee Williams, "the only truly unforgivable thing is deliberate cruelty, and I've never been guilty of that". So whatevs. This is why I don't do internet at all anymore other than what is professionally necessary.

re: JC or Debra Morgan. I think we are talking about 2 different things. You are commenting on the actress's "do-ability".... while I am commenting on the character herself. Give me a person of integrity, compassion, intense emotional personality and hyper-sexuality -- and if the "price" of that is that she is skinny & says "frankenstein fillet of f*ck" in a moment of surprise.... I make that trade-off in a heart-beat.

Maybe not 3 years ago, but now I do.

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