CEO George David Will Pass Top UTC Jo...

CEO George David Will Pass Top UTC Job To Successor -- Layoffs ...

There are 92 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Apr 5, 2008, titled CEO George David Will Pass Top UTC Job To Successor -- Layoffs .... In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Last fall, in an interview with New York magazine, a former Citigroup executive called George David "a rock star." For many people on Wall Street, the outgoing chief executive of United Technologies Corp.

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Lucas

Newington, CT

#64 Apr 9, 2008
Ed M wrote:
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LMFAO! Chris M hit the nail right on the head!
The rest of you socialists and pathetic whiners can all go screw yourselves.
By the way, often times UTC's customers DEMAND a "piece of the action" meaning that when an airline says "Okay, I'll buy those 100 Boeing 747's with Pratt engines ONLY IF you agree to manufacture 30% of those engine parts in my country. If you don't find those terms acceptable, GE and Rolls Royce will."
So shut your pathetic whiny, protectionist, "how dare you out source" ignorant, stupid mouths, okay?
Oh and if you work for UTC and you want to whine and pis and moan, then shut your mouths, get back to work and if you feel so damned abused by the company then go get another job. Odds are you won't find as good of a deal as you have at UTC.
LMFAO!

The only reason UTC is the biggest private employer in CT is the liberal state would rather give incentive to state workers than tax incentives to move technical business into the state so the educated have a choice on where to work.

In David's farewell speech he freely admitted it's the talent of the UTC rank and file that makes the corporation great, not one genious as all his great promoters here sing.

Anybody that doesn't care about where there kids are going to work are either:

1) Somebody at the VP or higher level who get paid to seek cheap labor

2) Don't have the brains to make a corporation effecient enough to compete with everybody, even though they have a title,

3) Work for the state

4) Still get lunch money from Mommie.

5) Executive "DINKs"

Look at what happened to East Harford and the surrounding small economy that supported Pratt before the big exodus.

On a meausure of % earnings increase only he's a hero on wall street, but a home buster to those who put him there.

When you're working under the chinese flag hand painting toys with lead paint you'll get it.

Good Luck Coyote worshippers.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#65 Apr 9, 2008
Lucas wrote:
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LMFAO!
The only reason UTC is the biggest private employer in CT is the liberal state would rather give incentive to state workers than tax incentives to move technical business into the state so the educated have a choice on where to work.
In David's farewell speech he freely admitted it's the talent of the UTC rank and file that makes the corporation great, not one genious as all his great promoters here sing.
Anybody that doesn't care about where there kids are going to work are either:
1) Somebody at the VP or higher level who get paid to seek cheap labor
2) Don't have the brains to make a corporation effecient enough to compete with everybody, even though they have a title,
3) Work for the state
4) Still get lunch money from Mommie.
5) Executive "DINKs"
Look at what happened to East Harford and the surrounding small economy that supported Pratt before the big exodus.
On a meausure of % earnings increase only he's a hero on wall street, but a home buster to those who put him there.
When you're working under the chinese flag hand painting toys with lead paint you'll get it.
Good Luck Coyote worshippers.
Why is not your fault that you didn't study harder in school?
Ed M

Newington, CT

#66 Apr 9, 2008
Lucas wrote:
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.....blah, blah, blah, meaningless drivel.....

Anybody that doesn't care about where there kids are going to work are either........

......blah, blah, blah, yet more meaningless babbling by a proven moron...
Hey you idiot, it's "their kids" not "there kids."

I see you are nothing but an illiterate moron, aren't you?
lucas

Newington, CT

#67 Apr 9, 2008
Well Ed M and Zanzibar -

Go read David's farewell speech. Looks like he said the same thing about the UTC rank and file as I've said over and again here.

So I guess I'm not quite as stupid as you two egg-sucking coyotes think. Maybe you both should have studied harder in school.

Go look up "coyote" in the dictionary. You should both know the term well.
patty

United States

#68 Apr 10, 2008
Highway Worker wrote:
I want to chime in here. Organized labor was necessary back at the turn of the last century when workers were maimed and/or killed on the job. They needed protection. Now, I do nothing but argue with the union hardliners. Some of their policies and procedures are ridiculous and archaic. Workers are much more educated now then ever before. I firmly believe that if unions started to let up on their silliness most manufacturing jobs would stay here in the good ol' USA.
Now, with that being said. The SUV crazed basically saved the American car industry. If anyone took notice, no one built heavy trucks like the Big 3. When they dominated the market did the foreign makers hop on the band wagon. Only recently, Toyota maybe can compete in the pick up market along with Ford and Chevy!
aren't you in a union as a state employee? and isn't your union trying to improve your protections when you are on the job. Union rules are less that a hundred years old...if they're archaic then what is our constitution? I didn't appreciate my union, until the supervisor they hired had his son working in the area and then all of us "workers" got shafted. unions work if people re willing to make them work.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#69 Apr 10, 2008
lucas wrote:
Go look up "coyote" in the dictionary. You should both know the term well.
Did you actually have to look up the word to know what it means? Idiot.
Lucas

Newington, CT

#70 Apr 10, 2008
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate wrote:
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Did you actually have to look up the word to know what it means? Idiot.
Yes, of course I know what it means. Just trying to get you and the other coyote(s) on board.
The Fixer

Warren, NJ

#71 Apr 10, 2008
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate wrote:
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That's just what we want. I'm sure it won't set off a wave of protectionist legislation by other countries.
Actually I hope it would.

What's wrong with a nation's citicens producing goods and services for each other?

Sure, a world-wide economy is a "nifty" thing, but only if ALL the players get to participate equally, which so far has never been the case.

Yeah, I'm fine with a little bit of blatant protectionism.

After all, not every product can be produced in eveyr country. If you wish to purchase goods and services from another country there should be a premium.

I'm sorry you don't agree, but for the vast majority of middle-class America, it really hasn't been working in our favor.

As for all the other comments out there no need to make it personal. Sure we could easily digress into a flame war, and boy howdy is it fun, but I don't think that's really the intent of these forums.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#72 Apr 10, 2008
The Fixer wrote:
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Actually I hope it would.
What's wrong with a nation's citicens producing goods and services for each other?
Sure, a world-wide economy is a "nifty" thing, but only if ALL the players get to participate equally, which so far has never been the case.
Yeah, I'm fine with a little bit of blatant protectionism.
After all, not every product can be produced in eveyr country. If you wish to purchase goods and services from another country there should be a premium.
I'm sorry you don't agree, but for the vast majority of middle-class America, it really hasn't been working in our favor.
As for all the other comments out there no need to make it personal. Sure we could easily digress into a flame war, and boy howdy is it fun, but I don't think that's really the intent of these forums.
Our government was not designed to "work" for you. It was designed to allow you to "work" for yourself. No one's stopping you from going back to school or starting your own business. And if, for some reason, you can't do those things, or do them successfully, then you have no one to blame but yourself.
The Fixer

Warren, NJ

#73 Apr 10, 2008
If you're made of money, sure, no big deal. Most of us aren't made of money. Most of us live paycheck to paycheck, and having discretionary spending to start a business or go to school isn't available.

You seem to have very little empathy. You have a very "Keynesian" attitude about economics. It seems like your opinion on AT&T in the 70's and Standard Oil even further back is that both companies got a 'raw deal' when the government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" stepped in and addressed their non-public spirited activities.

It seems you'd be in favor of the 'company store', and the poor plebians who haven't the money or education to better themselves are just totally at fault, and they should pull the money out of their "magic rectums" to better their situations, and the fact that they haven't by now makes them stupid and lazy.

I can see how your insinuations have resulted in so many personal attacks in this forum. I know I've been sorely tempted to call you an 'elitist prick', but fortunately I have more self-control than that.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#74 Apr 10, 2008
The Fixer wrote:
If you're made of money, sure, no big deal. Most of us aren't made of money. Most of us live paycheck to paycheck, and having discretionary spending to start a business or go to school isn't available.
Find investors or get a loan. Whiner.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#75 Apr 10, 2008
The Fixer wrote:
It seems you'd be in favor of the 'company store', and the poor plebians who haven't the money or education to better themselves are just totally at fault, and they should pull the money out of their "magic rectums" to better their situations, and the fact that they haven't by now makes them stupid and lazy.
We have a free public education system in this country. Some schools are certainly better than others, but unless you went to PS 27 in the South Bronx, my guess is that you had an opportunity to recieve a better education than 99% of the world. What stops most people from using that opportunity as a stepping stone for success? I don't know, but it's not corporations.

As for the "company store," why not just cite to slavery and the red scare if you're going to use circumstances that are no longer in existance.
Captian Obvious

San Antonio, TX

#76 Apr 10, 2008
Take a break Fixer, I got this one...
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate wrote:
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We have a free public education system in this country. Some schools are certainly better than others, but unless you went to PS 27 in the South Bronx, my guess is that you had an opportunity to recieve a better education than 99% of the world. What stops most people from using that opportunity as a stepping stone for success? I don't know, but it's not corporations.
So, you're saying that it's possible to become a tens-of-millions of dollars per year salaried CEO only on a highschool diploma?

Surely you're not that naive?

Beyond that, so what if public education in this country, as a tax payer funded public service (not free, as you state), will only get you so far, higher education is except in a few rare cases, definitely NOT "free".

The fact that you state that public education is "free" makes me believe you're absolutely NOT living in the same reality as the majority of us are. Public education is primarily paid for by millions of property owners yearly.

Your lack of understanding of the cost of higher education and how public education is funded makes me now believe you really don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate wrote:
As for the "company store," why not just cite to slavery and the red scare if you're going to use circumstances that are no longer in existance.
Because he doesn't need to. It's a very prime example of the corporate elite setting up a situation that was specifically designed to put the employees in a bad way.

The company store had nothing to do with convenience of the employee, but instead the enrichment of the company elite, setting up a defacto serfdom.

It's a lesson of history that shows us that if a rarified few get too much power, they absolutely will abuse it for the short benefit of themselves and their empowered peers and to the long term detriment of anyone and everyone else.

Fixer, I'm not sure I'd waste any more time on these arrogantly ignorant elitists...
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#77 Apr 10, 2008
Captian Obvious wrote:
Take a break Fixer, I got this one...
<quoted text>
So, you're saying that it's possible to become a tens-of-millions of dollars per year salaried CEO only on a highschool diploma?
Nope. After you do well in high school, you apply to and get accepted to a good college. Then either a job in finance or business school. That's the route that people usually take, and it's the route that open to almost anyone who applies themselves.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#78 Apr 10, 2008
As for being an elitist, I wasn't born rich (not even upper class), and I'm not rich now. I just don't blame others for my lot in life. So, unless being an adult is the same thing as being an elitist, then I would disagree with your use of that label.
Captian Obvious

San Antonio, TX

#79 Apr 10, 2008
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate wrote:
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Nope. After you do well in high school, you apply to and get accepted to a good college. Then either a job in finance or business school. That's the route that people usually take, and it's the route that open to almost anyone who applies themselves.
How does one pay for said 'good college'?

School loans? That's about the only option open for the vast majority of us. So we start out school with no money, end school with NEGATIVE money and if we work hard we can pay that off in 5-10-15-20 years.

Yes, that's what the vast majority of us do and yet there's aspects that allow a few people who actually didn't have to work all that hard get to the top, and when they get there they tend to crap on everyone below them, working 'good old boy' deals to have their salaries increased inordinately as compared to the rest of the employees.

After all, a great leader recognizes that he's moving ahead because of the hard work of the whole organization and strives to make sure the rest of the organization receives the benefit of that success.

A egomaniacal asshole thinks it's ok to take the rewards for himself and tells those that also contributed to the success to go f' themselves they should be happy they have a job still.

You sir are obviously an advocate for the latter.

At this point you're just a forum troll, I recommend we stop feeding the forum troll.
Lucas

Newington, CT

#80 Apr 10, 2008
Captian Obvious wrote:
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How does one pay for said 'good college'?
School loans? That's about the only option open for the vast majority of us. So we start out school with no money, end school with NEGATIVE money and if we work hard we can pay that off in 5-10-15-20 years.
Yes, that's what the vast majority of us do and yet there's aspects that allow a few people who actually didn't have to work all that hard get to the top, and when they get there they tend to crap on everyone below them, working 'good old boy' deals to have their salaries increased inordinately as compared to the rest of the employees.
After all, a great leader recognizes that he's moving ahead because of the hard work of the whole organization and strives to make sure the rest of the organization receives the benefit of that success.
A egomaniacal asshole thinks it's ok to take the rewards for himself and tells those that also contributed to the success to go f' themselves they should be happy they have a job still.
You sir are obviously an advocate for the latter.
At this point you're just a forum troll, I recommend we stop feeding the forum troll.
The Captain takes out the Coyote with two shots. Bravo. And the Coyote finally admits he's just a pretender.

Any guy that advocates strip mining a community and displacing thousands of families just to put $660 million in one man's pocket is an egg-sucking Coyote that has no clue what the world is about.

Bravo, Captain.

Since: Mar 08

Meriden, CT

#81 Apr 10, 2008
You shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, didn't any one teach you that, "cover" being the operative word.
Nofan wrote:
"Jim Cramer, the excitable, baseball bat-wielding host of CNBC's "Mad Money" stock advice show,"
Why would anyone take financial advice from a guy that looks like Bozo and acts like Clarabell?
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#82 Apr 10, 2008
Captian Obvious wrote:
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How does one pay for said 'good college'?
School loans? That's about the only option open for the vast majority of us.
That was the option for me. But I'd rather pay off a loan for 20 years than be poor forever.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Newington, CT

#83 Apr 10, 2008
Lucas wrote:
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The Captain takes out the Coyote with two shots. Bravo. And the Coyote finally admits he's just a pretender.
Any guy that advocates strip mining a community and displacing thousands of families just to put $660 million in one man's pocket is an egg-sucking Coyote that has no clue what the world is about.
Bravo, Captain.
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