Backing Her Stance -- Courant.com

Backing Her Stance -- Courant.com

There are 319 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Oct 15, 2007, titled Backing Her Stance -- Courant.com. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Avery Doninger didn't want to be a First Amendment champion. All she wanted was to be the secretary for the senior class at Lewis S. Mills High School.

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jam

Westford, MA

#1 Oct 15, 2007
Name calling, written or spoken, is not the way. Avery Doninger has an opportunity to learn how to engage in public policy issues in a respectful, responsible manner. We owe our kids guidance in the way of civility and maturity. It appears many adults need a refresher course here.
CT RESIDENT

Shelton, CT

#2 Oct 15, 2007
You go girl! Get up, Stand up for your rights and what you believe in. Freedom of speech is going by the wayside in this country. Big Brother watching every move. Your conduct was in the privacy of your own home. I wish you well in the up coming battle.
Sad situation

Hartford, CT

#3 Oct 15, 2007
She publicly calls people douchebags and then becomes the "victim"??? Yea, okay. This isn't a matter of freedom of speech, it's a matter of respect. Her and her 'ol lady are a couple of losers!!! They are exactly whats wrong with America today!!!
Stardumb

Hartford, CT

#5 Oct 15, 2007
CT RESIDENT wrote:
You go girl! Get up, Stand up for your rights and what you believe in. Freedom of speech is going by the wayside in this country. Big Brother watching every move. Your conduct was in the privacy of your own home. I wish you well in the up coming battle.
Yea, and good luck to Avery when she goes looking for a job. This should set her up real good. Maybe she can get her PhD from the University of BigMac !!!!
DaveClark5

Harwinton, CT

#6 Oct 15, 2007
Big brother? Big brother? What does a punk kid's right to use misogynistic vulgarity have to do with the government destroying freedom? Wow.

This is about empowering the brat generation. She's a disrespectful, inarticulate child who gets embraced for calling an administrator a vagina-cleaning apparatus. Must be one heckuva set of parents in that house, too (we sure know who is boss there). I guess we're a wee bit short of good causes these days, so anything will do.

Wow, how completely impressive. Not.
Joe Cezus - Windsor

New Britain, CT

#8 Oct 15, 2007
What does this teach this kid? That she can play the system @ its own game and quite possibly win...schools have it very difficult and now when an "elected" student official is given free rein to say whatever she feels at the time and now fundraise for a cause when she is so dead in the water all she learns is that, "Ha, ha, I do not have to own up to any of my actions." This is so wrong because the system said kids had rights back in the early seventies, and when this country was founded, the founding fathers said "...that all men are created equal..." they did not include kids because they hads to earn the rights that adults fought and earned...so now, Kid's Rights comes back to bite us - the school system - in the butt...how sad because next, it will be a college professor or a boss or a mate...so goes the system right down the proverbial drain.

Since: Feb 07

Connecticut

#10 Oct 15, 2007
Where do we draw the line between "douchbag" and the "N" word? Has she ever heard the word "slander"? She named called like little kids on the elementary school playground and that is what this is. All she wants is her 3 minutes of fame. This too will pass. She needs to grow up.
free speech supporter

Bristol, CT

#11 Oct 15, 2007
Stardumb wrote:
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Yea, and good luck to Avery when she goes looking for a job. This should set her up real good. Maybe she can get her PhD from the University of BigMac !!!!

I am sure she will have many oppurtunities, good employers like people who speak their minds and are willing to stand up for their rights. By the way there are many successful people working for Macdonalds.
different issues

Wolcott, CT

#12 Oct 15, 2007
True, this young lady was not very respectful in ways; in this account, the school and her parent, both are responsible, need to re-evaluate their ways of teaching the youngs.

The freedom of speech is a different matter. It is, under our constitution, as a country of democracy, The Bill of Rights, Amendment I - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. On this account, it is Avery's privilege to speak up, stand up, and protect her rights. She is simply exercising her rights. So should all of us.
South of the Border

United States

#13 Oct 15, 2007
This appears to be another case of political correctness running amock.

The purpose of free speech is to provide for non-violent and non-threatening commentary on political figures and/or policy without fear of retribution.

Children engaging in disruptive behavior within the physical school environment may (and should) be corrected, as has been ruled by the Supremem Court.

I don't see how non-violent and non-threatening speech uttered outside of the school environment any way trumps the first amendment.
wow

United States

#14 Oct 15, 2007
She is a fouled-mouth, spoiled brat and her mom is overindulgent idiot - like so many parents today.

If my children blogged like that about anyone, school administrators would be the least of their fears.

The school is not punishing this child for representing an opposing point of view. Her freedom of speech is not being curtailed. She is being punished for using profanity and poor judgment.
wrtaylor

Roseville, CA

#15 Oct 15, 2007
It really doesn't matter how many "fundraisers" are held in the name of this youngster. She's learning a very valuable and practical lesson that obviously she just doesn't get: that, in life, there are consequences to your actions.
Tony of Wethersfield

United States

#16 Oct 15, 2007
The key word here is CHILD!! She was junior in high school when this happened. She is practicing to be an adult and as far as I'm concerned she does not have amendment rights until she pays taxes and votes. Her parents should have explained to her how to behave and be CIVIL so she can earn her civil rights. Does a child have the right to bear arms??
A good judge will toss this out.
yes finally

Avon, CT

#17 Oct 15, 2007
wrtaylor wrote:
It really doesn't matter how many "fundraisers" are held in the name of this youngster. She's learning a very valuable and practical lesson that obviously she just doesn't get: that, in life, there are consequences to your actions.
stated perfectly, but I think we both know she hasn't yet learned this lesson. I think I'll write on my blog that my boss is an a** wipe and see if I have a job tomorrow.

Then maybe I'll join the crusade and hope to have some fundraisers so I can afford dinner.

Others get away with it, not because of free speech, but only they don't get caught like she did.
John

Seymour, CT

#18 Oct 15, 2007
It would be nice if mommy spent at least as much time instilling a sense of propriety and good manners in her child as she does defending her daughter's "right" to speak crudely of others
over it

New Milford, CT

#19 Oct 15, 2007
This is not a question of free speech and I am tired of people hiding behind that blanket...I am further disgusted by the parents who are supporting their daughter and her lack of judgement. What are they teaching her, that name calling is ok, that this behavior is ok and perfectly acceptable...As an elected officer representing her class, she should be held to an even higher level...Hold her accountable for her actions...Perhaps the school district should counter with a defimation of character lawsuit...but it is obvious they have chosen to take the higher ground.
If she chooses to run for office, I truly hope that her classmates choose another candidate instead, one with integrity rather than a "potty mouth" like Britney Spears or Paris Hilton.
steve01

Hartford, CT

#20 Oct 15, 2007
I think racial issues make situations like this a bigger deal today rather than in the past. I don't mean to stray from the point but back in the 80's people would have cared less about her statement. She said that and big deal!
A Teacher

Torrington, CT

#21 Oct 15, 2007
Someone should tell precious little Avery that she DOES have freedom of speech, but that freedom sometimes comes with consequences. The school ALSO has the freedom to decide what kind of behavior it deems inappropriate for its class officers.

P.S. Avery wanted to be the secretary of her class and she misspelled her little online editorial comment.
Mark

Hartford, CT

#23 Oct 15, 2007
wow wrote:
She is a fouled-mouth, spoiled brat and her mom is overindulgent idiot - like so many parents today.
Oh! Now you can't run for class office.
Lynn Pow

Bethany, CT

#24 Oct 15, 2007
Political candidates up for public office who are found to have made a biased slur are brought to the forefront, their backers pull their endorsement and they are asked to pull out of the race. Sounds like that's what happened here.
If you are going to try to run with the big boys, you should also realize you are going to be scrutinized just like in the big leagues---afterall, isn't that where these young ones are headed. Just like in the political arena, she will defend herself. She will win or lose depending on how many supporters she has. Isn't this what the democratic system is all about?

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