Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1394443 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#1071624 Jan 30, 2014
sonicfilter wrote:
President Obama Takes Down Walmart By Giving A Speech at Costco
Peter Deier, an E.P. Clapp Distinguished Professor of Politics, Occidental College, explained why President Obama chose Costco as the venue for his speech,“Why Costco and not Walmart, which is a much bigger and better-known discount retailer? The answer is that Costco’s labor practices help reduce income inequality while Walmart’s labor practices widen it. Yes, Walmart is better-known, but what it’s known for is low wages and abusive labor practices….When Americans think of the phrase “working poor,” they think of Walmart. Many of its employees make so little that they are eligible for food stamps, Medicaid, and housing subsidies. America’s taxpayers are subsidizing Walmart’s poverty-wage labor practices to the tune of billions of dollars. The company’s low-wage business model contributes to its stocking problems, the low customer service ratings, and the retailer’s current decline in sales. Not only do Costco workers earn much more than their Walmart counterparts, but Costco’s CEO makes considerably less than Walmart’s CEO. So while Costco helps narrow the gap between the rich and the rest, Walmart widens it.”
President Obama was sending a not so subtle message to the corporate giant that is most responsible for income inequality in this country. The point of the president’s speech at Costco was that it is more than possible for a company to both pay a living wage and be profitable.
Costco proves both the Republican Party and Walmart wrong. A company can pay its employees well and be successful. Republicans always frame any proposed increase in the minimum wage as a choice between paying employees well and jobs. Even though research shows that increasing the minimum wage does not cause employers to layoff workers, Republicans still stick to this tired old talking point.
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/01/29/presid...
Poverty in Illinois is the same as it was in 1960--so tell me again how a general assembly controlled by democrats for 40 years has done anything to help anyone? billions of dollars have been thrown at the poor and yet--same amount of poverty. Your analogy is flawed. Numbers do not lie.

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1071627 Jan 30, 2014
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Who say's I don't click on your links? Problem is that I'm usually disappointed with the content.
For example: Yesterday you were all pumped up about some study from the uber liberal UCAL Berkley that determined that rich people had fared better under Obama than the middle class and working poor. Well no fkn duh!!!
It was the middle class and working poor who got there azzes kicked by BushCo__the rich just kept on keeping on__particularly those with large stock portfolios because the market has doubled on Obama's watch.
Due to your lack of sophistication and business acumen you see that report as a knock on Obama__I see that report as a waste of fkn time.
Problem for you is Obama has had five - count 'em...five - years to turn that around. Since income inequality has only gotten worse under his administration and this is the soapbox issue for the Democratic Party during this election year, shouldn't he be explaining why it's gotten wider under his policies instead of in the process of being turned around by now?

Three years ago, blaming only Bush and pretending Democrats were innocent as lambs in creating the environment for the economic crisis might have washed.

But he can't piously preach that something is wrong and act like it's societies or the free market's fault and self-righteously claim he's going to do something about it when he's the reason why it's gotten worse and he hasn't done a thing about it.

Be honest. If the economy had crashed in the last year of Clinton's presidency and we were still in this same stagnant and slow as snails recovery after five years under a Bush administration - and a conservative university came out with a report that Bush's policies after five years into his presidency was only widening an income inequality gap while he was blaming Clinton and the Democrats for his predicament, you wouldn't give him a pass.

No one would. So why are liberals the only ones who refuse to see what everyone else sees? Loyalty is one thing when you're standing behind a president whose convictions determine his decisions and not politics.. But this president doesn't seem to have any convictions - just rhetoric with no actions - and he's only about politics. So there's nothing to stand behind.

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#1071629 Jan 30, 2014
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
....Green Energy....
"Solar Provides 0.2% of Electric Supply--Up From 0.02% Before Obama"
: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p...
SA came out with an article this month about how renewables have perhaps a 50 year row to hoe before effectively replacing fossil fuels as a major source of energy on Earth.

This is the pragmatic view based on historical data.
Realtime

Cape Canaveral, FL

#1071630 Jan 30, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton came clean after his presidency in an interview admitting he lied just because he could and saying "lying just because you can is one of the most reprehensible things anyone can do." That's all he needed to say. In my eyes, he had redeemed himself..
He's also very close to the Bush's. GHW is like his father figure, but they are all very close. That makes him a better and/or changed person in my eyes too.
Don't think he likes Obama or his policies too much either. He's been rather outspoken on a few occasions so that makes him a very reasonable Democrat. It's my opinion he's also a closet Republican now.
That's some really-really funny chit babe.

Since: May 11

New Oxford, PA

#1071631 Jan 30, 2014
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot.
How does ObamaKare pay down the national debt, you moron.
It takes in more from revenues & savings more than it pays out.

Now, was that concept just too difficult for our little subsidized brain?

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#1071632 Jan 30, 2014
John Galt wrote:
the main problem with the slogan "equal pay for equal work" is the inability to define "equal work"....
I don't think position or responsibility is part of that equation. It's all about physical participation. A roundabout allusion to the communal worker, the backbone of Communism.
Realtime

Cape Canaveral, FL

#1071633 Jan 30, 2014
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You see? I said he wouldn't get it!!!
Tell us all about how the veggie burger nearly bankrupted Burger King.

Hmmm__I wonder if that was Herman Cain's Burger King.
forks_make_us_fa t

Norman, OK

#1071634 Jan 30, 2014
Voters...

"Two professors of sociology, Christopher Uggen and Jeff Manza, estimated felon voting preferences by analyzing the demographic makeup of felons (e.g. race, gender, and economic background)....2002....

"The Survey data suggest that Democratic candidates would have received about 7 out of every 10 votes cast by the felons and ex-felons in 14 out the past 15 Senate election years..."

Fried, J.(2008). "Democrats and Republicans: Rhetoric and Reality".
algora publishing, pg 198

http://as.nyu.edu/docs/IO/3858/Democratic_Con...

Since: May 11

New Oxford, PA

#1071635 Jan 30, 2014
flack wrote:
<quoted text>Not much difference in the two quotes. Just a little more information in yours. Both still say there is a hostile work environment, dumbass!
"if it weren’t for the president, this place would be in court for a hostile workplace,"

That says there was not a hostile workplace.

Your lying POS buddy only posted part that implied that she said there was.

Now maybe in Bumfuck WV they mean the same thing but they are opposites in the world of the educated.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#1071636 Jan 30, 2014
leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>We got the message the first time from your 1986 tabloid, Killtaker. Maybe you should continue to resort to your references of fifty year old studies and their fifteen second follow up?
Yeah. "Nothing to see here. Move along...." Former associations are headline news when they concern conservatives. They're incidental 'character builders' for liberals.
Lcn

United States

#1071637 Jan 30, 2014
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>poor baby. you must have missed that part in the article regarding fraud against Fannie and Freddie. thus the request for a bigger fine.
no wonder you're so far behind the curve and falling faster, son! you can't get past the facts...
On a more positive note

SAN ANTONIO — Former President Bill Clinton is returning to the Alamo City next month, this time to present an award to a former mayor and member of his cabinet.

Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States, will award former San Antonio Mayor Henry Cisneros the World Affairs Council's International Citizen Award in the Alamo City on Feb. 26. Clinton also will deliver the keynote speech at the Marriott Rivercenter Hotel luncheon.

“He (Cisneros) is being honored for his visionary thinking and passion for collaboration, which truly elevated San Antonio to a national and international city,” Catherine Nixon, president of the World Affairs Council, said in a news release.

Clinton's last visit to the Alamo City was at a Democrat rally at San Antonio South High School in October 2012 where he was flanked by state Rep. Pete Gallego and the Castro brothers.

Cisneros, the chairman of CityView, a real estate investment firm, was a member of Clinton's cabinet as the secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

The World Affairs Council of San Antonio is a non-profit organization focused on foreign policy and global governing issues.
Lcn

United States

#1071639 Jan 30, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Clinton came clean after his presidency in an interview admitting he lied just because he could and saying "lying just because you can is one of the most reprehensible things anyone can do." That's all he needed to say. In my eyes, he had redeemed himself..
He's also very close to the Bush's. GHW is like his father figure, but they are all very close. That makes him a better and/or changed person in my eyes too.
Don't think he likes Obama or his policies too much either. He's been rather outspoken on a few occasions so that makes him a very reasonable Democrat. It's my opinion he's also a closet Republican now.
Faux talking points

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1071640 Jan 30, 2014
M Stein wrote:
<quoted text>Like in the White House?
Gender wage gap at the White House: Female staffers are paid less than 87 cents for every dollar paid to men.
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/09/gender-wage-...
One fact checker source pointed out that discrepancy as well. It's like this president is totally removed even from his own rhetoric. That's pretty bad.

I thought Brit Hume described the SOTU the best. Hume rarely shows any emotion whatsoever and is quite fair in his calm and monotone voice when analyzing this president's administration in the past. But he couldn't stop snickering after the SOTU saying this president was giving a speech about his own presidency.

Hume was apparently amused because the implication was Obama didn't even know he was doing that.
forks_make_us_fa t

Norman, OK

#1071641 Jan 30, 2014
...who is better with their money...

GSS survey...
in 1991 and 2004
1528 cases were surveyed...

"The National Data Program for the Social Sciences has been conducted since 1972 by NORC, A Social Science Research Center at the University of Chicago, with the support of the National Science Foundation"
http://www3.norc.org/GSS+Website/

QUESTION:
'During the Last year did you declare bankruptcy?'

D-1.6 percent
R-0.5 percent

Fried, J.(2008). "Democrats and Republicans: Rhetoric and Reality".
algora publishing, pg 198

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1071642 Jan 30, 2014
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Poverty in Illinois is the same as it was in 1960--so tell me again how a general assembly controlled by democrats for 40 years has done anything to help anyone? billions of dollars have been thrown at the poor and yet--same amount of poverty. Your analogy is flawed. Numbers do not lie.
what was considered poverty back then is far different from what poverty is considered now.

the poor in the US are far better of now than they were then.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1071646 Jan 30, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Problem for you is Obama has had five - count 'em...five - years to turn that around. Since income inequality has only gotten worse under his administration and this is the soapbox issue for the Democratic Party during this election year, shouldn't he be explaining why it's gotten wider under his policies instead of in the process of being turned around by now?
Three years ago, blaming only Bush and pretending Democrats were innocent as lambs in creating the environment for the economic crisis might have washed.
But he can't piously preach that something is wrong and act like it's societies or the free market's fault and self-righteously claim he's going to do something about it when he's the reason why it's gotten worse and he hasn't done a thing about it.
Be honest. If the economy had crashed in the last year of Clinton's presidency and we were still in this same stagnant and slow as snails recovery after five years under a Bush administration - and a conservative university came out with a report that Bush's policies after five years into his presidency was only widening an income inequality gap while he was blaming Clinton and the Democrats for his predicament, you wouldn't give him a pass.
No one would. So why are liberals the only ones who refuse to see what everyone else sees? Loyalty is one thing when you're standing behind a president whose convictions determine his decisions and not politics.. But this president doesn't seem to have any convictions - just rhetoric with no actions - and he's only about politics. So there's nothing to stand behind.
yet you still cannot show one teensy iota of fact as to why it was Obama's fault the gap continued or widened, as you claimed obama by himself increased.

and yet here you are again spewing this proven lie...

why do you have to lie so much?
forks_make_us_fa t

Norman, OK

#1071647 Jan 30, 2014
Cheating and R or a D

GSS conducted surveys in1991 and 1998
1598 cases

'The National Data Program for the Social Sciences has been conducted since 1972 by NORC, A Social Science Research Center at the University of Chicago, with the support of the National Science Foundation'
http://www3.norc.org/GSS+Website/About+GSS/Na...

PERCENTAGE OF RESPONDENTS saying IT IS NOT WRONG...

a) cheat on taxes
D-16.6 percent
R-12.4 percent

b) cheat the government
D- 6.4 percent
R- 3.0 percent

Fried, J.(2008). "Democrats and Republicans: Rhetoric and Reality".
algora publishing, pg 199,200

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1071648 Jan 30, 2014
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>That's some really-really funny chit babe.
What's so funny about Clinton admitting he lied just because he could and was ashamed about that?

Is it his close ties with the Bush's that you find so funny?

Or is my opinion that he's a closet Republican funny? Guess that could be considered amusing I suppose but not really funny because it's just my opinion.

So what's funny?

I'm beginning to wonder if you're insulated or isolated in some way from the outside world. Sure hope not. But it would explain a lot.
Lily Boca Raton FL

Boca Raton, FL

#1071649 Jan 30, 2014
6 Reasons Conservative Ron Unz Wants to Raise the Minimum Wage to $12 An Hour


The California Republican is sponsoring a 2014 ballot measure for a $12 statewide minimum wage—more than Obama has proposed.

The whole thing is it’s not really a traditional ideological issue. What you have right now is a system of massive welfare spending, over $250 billion a year in social welfare programs going to the working poor. In other words, people have jobs but they cannot survive on their paychecks. And those payments really amount to subsidies to low-wage employers. It’s a classic case of where businesses manage to privatize the benefits of their workers—they get the work—and socialize the costs. They’ve shifted the costs over to taxpayer and the government. And that is not something that free market economists like. It’s a classic problem inany kind of economic system.

So when you’re talking about a much higher minimum wage, which would automatically produce huge cuts in government social welfare spending, that’s the sort of thing that conservatives begin to like.

3. A two-income family would earn $50,000 a year.

4. Spending on welfare could fall by $40 billion.

Walmart, America’s largest low-wage employer, could cover a $12 minimum wage by a one-time price increase of 1.1 percent. The average Walmart shopper would pay an extra $12.50 per year. McDonald's and fast-food places would probabnly have to raise their prices by 8 or 9 percent, something like that. Agricultural products that are American-grown would go up by less than 2 percent on the grocery shelves. And those sorts of price increases are so small that they would be almost unnoticed in most cases by the consumer.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/ron-unz-makes...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1071650 Jan 30, 2014
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Costco and Walmart are not in the same business...
and Costco does not pay its employees "much more" than Walmart employees...but does make them work much harder for the small increment in pay that they receive...
you're so full of shit.

"the main problem with the slogan "equal pay for equal work" is the inability to define "equal work".... "

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