State Task Force To Study Fatherless Families

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House Speaker James Amann is establishing a task force to study the causes of fatherlessness.
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We ned to have a task force to know that childern growing up without a father face tougher odds.Just ask a teacher they see it everyday

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Whats this costing the taxpayer, and what good is going to do?? There's alot of other more important things to put a TaskForce on.......Crime for one.........
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Possible laws? New entitlement program?
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I want to see the baby mamas and irresponsible fathers held responsible for their actions. ONe way is to stop promising them everythign to make it easy for them to accomodate the choices they made. Do you think Armann will try to reduce the financial burden these bums place on the taxpayers with their need for food stamps, housing assistance, and health care for their spawn. Hardly! What is needed is a way to show these irresponsible people who make babies they want to think before they knock the boots, becasue there won't be a free ride on the gravy train waiting for them after she makes another baby. Call these people what they are - irresponsible leeches who drain money and services from the working class.
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This is great! The State is in a financial crisis... so they say, and now they are going to pay a bunch a people to study something that appears to be useless. What about the economy? what about the gas tax?, etc. etc.
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Stupid idea and a complete waste of taxpayer money!

While they are conducting this study, they should find out why these fatherless children have 5 or 6 siblings and why each child has a different DNA donor?

I think the answer is quite simple. A certain percentage of the population doesnít give a $hit about the consequences of their actions and why should they when they have support systems like abortion clinics and welfare to solve their problems.

Until people decide to accept personal responsibility and take the necessary precautions to prevent fatherless births, things will not change. With all the free birth control programs now available to young girls and women there is no excuse for all these fatherless births. I recognize that even with birth control accidents can still happen.

However, I know from experience that a little personal responsibility can go a long way. My girl and I started having sex when we were both in high school and we took the proper precautions to make sure no unplanned births happened.
Tara Mills

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As a single parent of two children, I take offense to some of the comments posted here. First of all, it is ignorant to assume the reason many children are fatherless. Some women are widows, victims of domestic abuse, or were misled by selfish careless MEN. To blame women for the instance of fatherless children, sends our society back many years. How pathetic has our society become that we look to blame the mothers and not wonder how poorly raised are these men who more often than not, abandon their children physically as well as financially? Who is Crystal Clear that he feels he has the right to promote birth control and abortion? Many people are opposed to abortion and find it the most irresponsible as well as psycologically damaging decision a woman could make. People who spout these hateful, judgemental, ignorant opinions are obviously suffering from very muddy thinking, not "crystal clear" at all. Unfortunately, we can expect many more fatherless households, since people like this are raising children every day. It would not surprise me if "Crystal Clear" and "HC Here" end up raising their sons to be the type of arrogant, selfish men who abandon their responsibilities. If you want to solve the problem of fatherless families rather than complain about a sad but ever increasing reality, look into your own hearts and homes. Make sure you're not raising mamas boys and insecure young women. Your comments and lack of concern for these children of fatherless families is a very poor example for your own children. We are in a society where men have a pass to get away with much more than women. Now it is humiliating for a woman to stay home with her children. No, she is expected to raise a family, pursue a career, and manage her marriage in addition to her other responsibilities as cook, housecleaner, financial manager, pta volunteer etc. Apparently, going to work, sleeping and eating is all too stressful for some men, so they leave their families, sometimes even before their child is born, and leave women holding the bag. There is a definate call for a study of fatherless families. Perhaps you should save your comments for when there are an inordinate amount of motherless families. Of course it is pretty hard to run off when you are nine months pregnant.
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Tara Mills wrote:
As a single parent of two children, I take offense to some of the comments posted here. First of all, it is ignorant to assume the reason many children are fatherless. Some women are widows, victims of domestic abuse, or were misled by selfish careless MEN. To blame women for the instance of fatherless children, sends our society back many years. How pathetic has our society become that we look to blame the mothers and not wonder how poorly raised are these men who more often than not, abandon their children physically as well as financially? Who is Crystal Clear that he feels he has the right to promote birth control and abortion? Many people are opposed to abortion and find it the most irresponsible as well as psycologically damaging decision a woman could make. People who spout these hateful, judgemental, ignorant opinions are obviously suffering from very muddy thinking, not "crystal clear" at all. Unfortunately, we can expect many more fatherless households, since people like this are raising children every day. It would not surprise me if "Crystal Clear" and "HC Here" end up raising their sons to be the type of arrogant, selfish men who abandon their responsibilities. If you want to solve the problem of fatherless families rather than complain about a sad but ever increasing reality, look into your own hearts and homes. Make sure you're not raising mamas boys and insecure young women. Your comments and lack of concern for these children of fatherless families is a very poor example for your own children. We are in a society where men have a pass to get away with much more than women. Now it is humiliating for a woman to stay home with her children. No, she is expected to raise a family, pursue a career, and manage her marriage in addition to her other responsibilities as cook, housecleaner, financial manager, pta volunteer etc. Apparently, going to work, sleeping and eating is all too stressful for some men, so they leave their families, sometimes even before their child is born, and leave women holding the bag. There is a definate call for a study of fatherless families. Perhaps you should save your comments for when there are an inordinate amount of motherless families. Of course it is pretty hard to run off when you are nine months pregnant.
Were did this rant comes from? I believe that everyone here will be supportive over women who were beaten or abused, or had the husband die, but they are referring to people that just dont take precautions to have children and just figure the government will take care of them. They have a right to be angry about that.

We have these program (section 8, food stamps etc.) for people that fit the criteria but it seems that alot of people just being irresponsible are trying to take from the pot of people that need it.
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There will be more than enough subjects in Hartford.
How about a study on how to use birth control.
Intelligence in these communities is inversely proportional.
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A woman can have a PhD is rocket science, but when a pair of pants comes along she turns into a blithering idiot. I have seen some of the smartest women with great educations and jobs fall for every line of crap a smooth talking guy will hand them. Just because he's hot, he has a great car, he's hung like an elephant and he can go all night in bed.

And no matter what he does to her she just takes him back again and again.

is the man wrong for doing this OF COURSE. But should a grown woman be a little smarter DAMN STRAIGHT
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Crystal Clear wrote:
A certain ... population doesnít [care] about the consequences of their actions and why should they when they have support systems like abortion clinics and welfare to solve their problems.
Connecticut's subsidies of sloth have turned Connecticut's cities into baby mills for minority breeders.

We don't need another study.

Former United States Senator from New York Daniel Patrick Moynihan diagnosed he problem years ago.

Bill Moyers even made a classic film about the problem.

So the problem is not the real problem and, moreover, we already know what the only effective solution is.

The real problem is that that the real solution is sterilization, and our politicians are unwilling to think what is to them the unthinkable because that would be politically incorrect and they would rather let the USA fail than have their liberal peers perceive them as being politically incorrect.
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instead of a task force for fatherless children why not a task force for education and why we have failed our children in every aspect because of the politicking that comes with budgeting...on the same token not all single parents are parasites of state funded agencies and some children who do come from two working parent suburban homes are worst than a child from a single parent look at those columbine kids just to touch the tip of the iceberg...
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Tara Mills wrote:
As a single parent of two children, I take offense to some of the comments posted here. First of all, it is ignorant to assume the reason many children are fatherless. Some women are widows, victims of domestic abuse, or were misled by selfish careless MEN. To blame women for the instance of fatherless children, sends our society back many years. How pathetic has our society become that we look to blame the mothers and not wonder how poorly raised are these men who more often than not, abandon their children physically as well as financially? Who is Crystal Clear that he feels he has the right to promote birth control and abortion? Many people are opposed to abortion and find it the most irresponsible as well as psycologically damaging decision a woman could make. People who spout these hateful, judgemental, ignorant opinions are obviously suffering from very muddy thinking, not "crystal clear" at all. Unfortunately, we can expect many more fatherless households, since people like this are raising children every day. It would not surprise me if "Crystal Clear" and "HC Here" end up raising their sons to be the type of arrogant, selfish men who abandon their responsibilities. If you want to solve the problem of fatherless families rather than complain about a sad but ever increasing reality, look into your own hearts and homes. Make sure you're not raising mamas boys and insecure young women. Your comments and lack of concern for these children of fatherless families is a very poor example for your own children. We are in a society where men have a pass to get away with much more than women. Now it is humiliating for a woman to stay home with her children. No, she is expected to raise a family, pursue a career, and manage her marriage in addition to her other responsibilities as cook, housecleaner, financial manager, pta volunteer etc. Apparently, going to work, sleeping and eating is all too stressful for some men, so they leave their families, sometimes even before their child is born, and leave women holding the bag. There is a definate call for a study of fatherless families. Perhaps you should save your comments for when there are an inordinate amount of motherless families. Of course it is pretty hard to run off when you are nine months pregnant.
First of all, I did not promote abortion, I do not think birth control is just the womanís job and I did not lump all woman into a group.

If, you reread my post, you will see I said a certain portion of the population doesnít worry about the consequences of their actions, not all women. Also notice I said my girl friend and I took steps to prevent unplanned children.

I think you missed the point. Nobody of reasonable intelligence is blaming a widow, or divorced woman or a woman whose husband ran off when she was pregnant, for having fatherless children.

The issue here are the individuals who put their toes in the air for every guy they meet and then expect the taxpayers to support their a$$ for 4 or 5 children. Statistics show that better than half of the single mothers out there donít know with any certainty who fathered their child(ren).

With that said do we really need a study to look into why so many children are fatherless? I think not!
High School Parent

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They need a task force for this?????????? Are you kidding?? LOL
Wow....who thinks of these useless ideas? Here it is......most of the fatherless homes are those low lives that spread their seed..from one 15 year old to another...and another...and never stick around to be a "father". You certainly don't need a task force to figure this out. And when the DO come up with their "findings"....what next? Nothing..thats what. Lets just find reasons to keep wasting our money. Unbelievable.
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Crystal Clear wrote:
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First of all, I did not promote abortion, I do not think birth control is just the womanís job and I did not lump all woman into a group.
If, you reread my post, you will see I said a certain portion of the population doesnít worry about the consequences of their actions, not all women. Also notice I said my girl friend and I took steps to prevent unplanned children.
I think you missed the point. Nobody of reasonable intelligence is blaming a widow, or divorced woman or a woman whose husband ran off when she was pregnant, for having fatherless children.
The issue here are the individuals who put their toes in the air for every guy they meet and then expect the taxpayers to support their a$$ for 4 or 5 children. Statistics show that better than half of the single mothers out there donít know with any certainty who fathered their child(ren).
With that said do we really need a study to look into why so many children are fatherless? I think not!
Excellent!!!! Very well said!!!!!
Corrupticut Taxes

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Its called welfare, and we pay it. How about mandatory tests for parents and if you don't know who the father is you get less. If you live by the rules in this state you get the shaft.
Tara Mills

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"Sterilization"?! Ever heard of Hitler?
"Certain segments of the population"? A little elitist?
Noone has the right to say who should be a parent nor who would make a "proper" parent.
"Columbine" is right. Many average middle class married couple families raise very screwed up kids. But they wouldn't have fallen into your sterilization category, right?
Thankyou all for verifying that you are only talking about SOME people, but the point of my rant was to illustrate the error and stereotyping in your thought process. Having been in a position where I've had to ask for state help in order to make sure my children have what was needed, I know that many women in welfare offices are not having multiple children and are not purposely doing this. It is true that there are people who for whatever reason milk the system, but I think it is part of a negative cycle rooted in their communities, families, and poor self esteem.

Changes in fortune and bad circumstances can happen to ANYONE, even if you think you are not like these "people". Unfortunately, because of these negative, stereotypical opinions of welfare recipients, I and many other women live in shame and embaressment. We are often asked humiliating, VERY personal questions when at a welfare office and are treated like subhumans. If it wasn't for my children I would have never sought financial help from a state agency, but because I love them I have undergone this type of degradation. The saddest thing are the women who would rather have their children go without than be the target of this sort of hatefulness and ignorance.
Anyway, the article is about a task force to investigate fatherless families. It could prove to be useful if the information learned is used in a proactive way. Noone can deny that there are more fatherless families now, than thirty years ago. I can promise you that teaching birth control or other liberal methods will not do anything to change this problem. Rather, encouraging teens and anybody to engage in uncommitted relationships under the safety of birth control, degrades family values, and promotes single parent households.

I apologise if I have offended anyone and sorry this was so long, but I take this subject very seriously.
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A task force has the job of reviewing data on a particular topic, brainstorming solutions to prevent and/or correct defined problems, and then make recommendations to policymakers. It is time to take an unbiased look at the situation of single parent households and the impact on children's behavior, health and educational success. In a term paper I wrote, titled "A License to Parent," for a college public policy class, I came up with several solutions for affordable and reasonable child care. Some solutions were rather facetious, others were reasonable. Expecting parents to attend parenting school and receive a license before having children is facetious. Providing incentives for single mothers/fathers to share a single apartment, share child care responsibilities and each to find at least a part time job might actually be doable.

Providing ideas in a forum like this and giving readers a chance to comment on what public policy is reasonable to ensure that children are loved and properly cared for and well educated is a great opportunity. Ideas welcome!
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The courts don't but rarely enforce child support judgements placed upon estranged or divorced non-custody fathers.

Now they care whether the deadbeats stick around?

This isn't about anything other than further micromanaging people. And getting government more deeply into our personal lives.

I wonder what's next. I shudder to think.
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Maybe we could study the cost of stupid studies. Another study could check on the cost of out of control lawmakers who have no clue.

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