Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

There are 319979 comments on the Newsday story from Jan 22, 2008, titled Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision. In it, Newsday reports that:

Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Since: Jun 08

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#315571 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Everything doesn't have to affect me personally to know it is wrong nad is heading us to a culture that won't sustain.
How has abortion ever been responsible for the demise of any culture? Abortion has been around for thousands of years. The only difference is that now women can have one as the legitimate medical procedure it is. You're freaking out, hon.
katie

Tacoma, WA

#315572 Nov 12, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Yup. Of course, Ink thinks it's okay to state her personal interpretation as a quote. Jeez...
Apparently those reasons equaled "convenience" in Ink's perspective.
katie

Tacoma, WA

#315573 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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to have an abortion, 2004 and 1987
Reason 2004 1987
(N=1,160)(N=1,900)
Having a baby would dramatically change my life 74 78*
Would interfere with education 38 36
Would interfere with job/employment/career 38 50***
Have other children or dependents 32 22***
Canít afford a baby now 73 69
Unmarried 42 na
Student or planning to study 34 na
Canít afford a baby and child care 28 na
Canít afford the basic needs of life 23 na
Unemployed 22 na
Canít leave job to take care of a baby 21 na
Would have to find a new place to live 19 na
Not enough support from husband or partner 14 na
Husband or partner is unemployed 12 na
Currently or temporarily on welfare or public assistance 8 na
Donít want to be a single mother or having relationship problems 48 52*
Not sure about relationship 19 na
Partner and I canít or donít want to get married 12 30***
Not in a relationship right now 11 12
Relationship or marriage may break up soon 11 16*
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children 2 3
Have completed my childbearing 38 28**
Not ready for a(nother) childÜ 32 36
Donít want people to know I had sex or got pregnant 25 33*
Donít feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child 22 27*
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion 14 24***
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus 13 14
Physical problem with my health 12 8**
Parents want me to have an abortion 6 8
Was a victim of rape 1 1
Became pregnant as a result of incest <0.5 <0.5
*p<.05.**p<.01.***p<. 001.ÜThis was a write-in
As you can see rape or incest accounted for 1.5% of reasons for abortion. I assume that PP doesn't perform seriously life saving abortions.
This is your source for your claim that, "...97% are convenience abortions,"?

You read that list and only see "inconvenience"??

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315574 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
to have an abortion, 2004 and 1987
Reason 2004 1987
(N=1,160)(N=1,900)
Having a baby would dramatically change my life 74 78*
Would interfere with education 38 36
Would interfere with job/employment/career 38 50***
Have other children or dependents 32 22***
Canít afford a baby now 73 69
Unmarried 42 na
Student or planning to study 34 na
Canít afford a baby and child care 28 na
Canít afford the basic needs of life 23 na
Unemployed 22 na
Canít leave job to take care of a baby 21 na
Would have to find a new place to live 19 na
Not enough support from husband or partner 14 na
Husband or partner is unemployed 12 na
Currently or temporarily on welfare or public assistance 8 na
Donít want to be a single mother or having relationship problems 48 52*
Not sure about relationship 19 na
Partner and I canít or donít want to get married 12 30***
Not in a relationship right now 11 12
Relationship or marriage may break up soon 11 16*
Husband or partner is abusive to me or my children 2 3
Have completed my childbearing 38 28**
Not ready for a(nother) childÜ 32 36
Donít want people to know I had sex or got pregnant 25 33*
Donít feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child 22 27*
Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion 14 24***
Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus 13 14
Physical problem with my health 12 8**
Parents want me to have an abortion 6 8
Was a victim of rape 1 1
Became pregnant as a result of incest <0.5 <0.5
*p<.05.**p<.01.***p<. 001.ÜThis was a write-in
As you can see rape or incest accounted for 1.5% of reasons for abortion. I assume that PP doesn't perform seriously life saving abortions.
It says nothing about "convenience". No "casual" either, by the way.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315575 Nov 12, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>How has abortion ever been responsible for the demise of any culture? Abortion has been around for thousands of years. The only difference is that now women can have one as the legitimate medical procedure it is. You're freaking out, hon.
She's a paranoid nut.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315576 Nov 12, 2013
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>How has abortion ever been responsible for the demise of any culture? Abortion has been around for thousands of years. The only difference is that now women can have one as the legitimate medical procedure it is. You're freaking out, hon.
Do you honestly believe that abortions have been performed in the numbers we have today? It isn't just abortion but the thinking that it represents. There is without a doubt a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315577 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you honestly believe that abortions have been performed in the numbers we have today? It isn't just abortion but the thinking that it represents. There is without a doubt a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new.
Yes, I, for one, believe that the rates have not changed. The necessary herbs were around before there were even humans to use them.

Sorry, Naif, but human callousness toward life is nothing new.

Since: Jun 08

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#315578 Nov 12, 2013
katie wrote:
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Apparently those reasons equaled "convenience" in Ink's perspective.
She's entitled to her perspective, as skewed as it is. What is convenient is her ability to transform reality into her fantasies.
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315579 Nov 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Yes, I, for one, believe that the rates have not changed. The necessary herbs were around before there were even humans to use them.
Sorry, Naif, but human callousness toward life is nothing new.
Keep fooling yourself.
katie

Tacoma, WA

#315580 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you honestly believe that abortions have been performed in the numbers we have today? It isn't just abortion but the thinking that it represents. There is without a doubt a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new.
What type of thinking does abortion represent, Ink?

How is abortion responsible for, "...a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new,"?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315581 Nov 12, 2013
katie wrote:
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This is your source for your claim that, "...97% are convenience abortions,"?
You read that list and only see "inconvenience"??
I do. Most of my kids weren't conceived at convenient times but I didn't kill them. I adjusted and welcomed them into my life and am I ever glad I did. I could have used many of those excuses.

Since: Jun 08

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#315582 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you honestly believe that abortions have been performed in the numbers we have today? It isn't just abortion but the thinking that it represents. There is without a doubt a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new.
Yes, I do. And your opinion is ridiculous and histrionic.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#315583 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Keep fooling yourself.
No, that would be you, the person who obviously doesn't understand human history, that they can look back on it and NOT see that callousness in humans is nothing new.

Take off those rose-colored glasses, Naif.

Since: Jun 08

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#315584 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I do. Most of my kids weren't conceived at convenient times but I didn't kill them. I adjusted and welcomed them into my life and am I ever glad I did. I could have used many of those excuses.
Good for you and so what?
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315585 Nov 12, 2013
katie wrote:
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What type of thinking does abortion represent, Ink?
How is abortion responsible for, "...a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new,"?
I think this says it much better than I. I hope you read it with an open mind.

Since: Jun 08

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#315586 Nov 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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No, that would be you, the person who obviously doesn't understand human history, that they can look back on it and NOT see that callousness in humans is nothing new.
Take off those rose-colored glasses, Naif.
I wonder how the weather is in Stepford, today? Lol
Ink

Havertown, PA

#315587 Nov 12, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that would be you, the person who obviously doesn't understand human history, that they can look back on it and NOT see that callousness in humans is nothing new.
Take off those rose-colored glasses, Naif.
Your heart is hardened.
katie

Tacoma, WA

#315588 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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I think this says it much better than I. I hope you read it with an open mind.
Is it written in invisible ink, Ink?
:)

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#315589 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you honestly believe that abortions have been performed in the numbers we have today? It isn't just abortion but the thinking that it represents. There is without a doubt a callousness toward life and a egocentric focus now that is new.
Of course. As Bitner, quite correctly, pointed out, there are herbs which have been used as abortifacients, for nearly as long as pregnancy has been a 'thing'...and they were around for millions of years before humans were around to use them.

Why don't you believe this? It's well documented, and even the Bible speaks of 'bitter water' which is a reference to an herbally-induced abortion.

A fact which you routinely ignore, when asked where the Bible specifically mentions abortion....because there's no punishment attached to it, probably.

“Truly Pro-Life”

Since: Nov 11

Proudly Pro-choice

#315590 Nov 12, 2013
Ink wrote:
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Your heart is hardened.
See, I would say the same about yours...your willingness to obligate women to gestate, when the resulting born child is likely to be resented, or profoundly unhealthy, or thrown into the foster care system, is hardness of heart exemplified. You couldn't care less about 'life'- your only concern is your own narrow view of morality.

I say it's far more moral to end that potential in the first few weeks of pregnancy, when most abortions occur, than to complete gestation, unless the prospect of a child fills the woman and her partner with boundless joy. All children should be welcomed eagerly into the world. Not brought here to suffer, be tormented with pain, or set adrift into the roiling seas of cruel and uncaring humanity.

Despite your rose-colored glasses, humans aren't saints, and this is already a bad old world.

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