Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

[Eddie M]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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Not just me. DARE to disagree with her about ANYTHING, no matter how petty, and you'll incur her wrath - LOL As ineffectual as that wrath is.

She tries to browbeat people into agreeing with her and when that doesn't work she turns up the obnoxiousness even more.

Where are Chooselife and Mary?

[SapphireBlue]

Bitner wrote:

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Sanger was against abortion.

She was on the fence based on her own statements and writings over the years.

It is ironic that the woman who started Planned Parenthood said this about abortion:“It is an alternative that I cannot too strongly condemn. Although abortion may be resorted to in order to save the life of the mother, the practice of it merely for limitation of offspring is dangerous and vicious.”[The Nation, Jan. 27, 1932]

This is contradictory to giving out abortion information in the first edition of her birth control methods pamphlet, Family Limitation, published in 1914.

[SapphireBlue]

Bitner wrote:

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In other words, there is no source, and you're just making up whatever nonsense you wish to pretend is real. Got it.

Common sense - sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts.

Simple perception.

[Eddie M]

The Prince wrote:

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Another gay pagan twit being an ass. You think you are superior with your secular paganism but you come off as an ass.

Remember years ago when you posted under the name Wise One and ranted about religious zealots? And you would come back as Ignorance is Bliss and agree with yourself?

Times sure do change.

[SapphireBlue]

STO wrote:

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Do you think healthcare, in general, should be more difficult to get? Like treatment for lung cancer, for example?

Assuming you mean all those with lung cancer are smokers, they only kill themselves.

[Eddie M]

The Prince wrote:

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Your answer confirms you are about as Christian as the other proabort pagans on this forum. You Sir, are no
Christan.

You Sir, are no judge of who is a Christian.

[Eddie M]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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The two greatest commandments are to love God with all our hearts and minds and to love each other as ourselves.
It's all about love.

The Golden Rule.

[SapphireBlue]

Bitner wrote:

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None of this answers my question, or even addresses the point.
What point in telling people things they already know, or can learn easily if they wish?
And there WERE no gospels when Jesus supposedly lived.

The gospel is simply the good news.

The disciples and followers of Christ continued spreading the good news so that by the time the New Testament was being written less than three decades after Christ's death, early churches had already been established in many places.

[cpeter1313]

There were and still are al qaeda camps there. They may have politically disowned him, but they are anything but staunch allies against terrorism.

SapphireBlue wrote:

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I can only suggest you do a little more reading on the Saudis. They disowned bin Laden and were targeted with several terrorists attacks. They are a staunch ally against terrorism.
Some Americans also joined the enemy. They were from America.

[Bitner]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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She was on the fence based on her own statements and writings over the years.
It is ironic that the woman who started Planned Parenthood said this about abortion:“It is an alternative that I cannot too strongly condemn. Although abortion may be resorted to in order to save the life of the mother, the practice of it merely for limitation of offspring is dangerous and vicious.”[The Nation, Jan. 27, 1932]
This is contradictory to giving out abortion information in the first edition of her birth control methods pamphlet, Family Limitation, published in 1914.

The only "abortion" information she "gave out" in that publication was to say that though there are times when it is "justifiable", that preventing pregnancy will prevent abortions. Given the direct quote above, any reasonable person would conclude that by "justifiable", she meant to save the life of the woman.

[Bitner]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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Common sense - sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts.
Simple perception.

Personal perception is not the most reliable of sources for fact. Especially when one begins with a belief they want to see proven. Your "perception" of the 1914 publication you referred to in your previous post proves that it's not reliable.

I asked for your source, and you couldn't answer. WHERE does your "perception" come from? WHERE do your supposed "facts" come from?

[Bitner]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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The gospel is simply the good news.
The disciples and followers of Christ continued spreading the good news so that by the time the New Testament was being written less than three decades after Christ's death, early churches had already been established in many places.

You're avoiding my question. Why?

[Bitner]

Huskerlicious wrote:

<quoted text>Not really, she didn't stop them did she, she wanted farmers to kill one or two of their own children. She wanted the Black population and other minorities, handicapped to be sterilized .

Yes, she was against abortion. You are wrong.

[SapphireBlue]

Eddie M wrote:

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The Golden Rule.

What a different world this would be if everyone tried to apply it.

[SapphireBlue]

Bitner wrote:

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Yes, she was against abortion. You are wrong.

Truly ironic. Sanger sounds more pro-life than someone who started Planned Parenthood.

“While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization. I also assert that the responsibility for these abortions and the illness, misery and deaths that come in their train lies at the door of a government whose authority has been stretched beyond the limits of the people’s intention and which, in its puritanical blindness, insists upon suffering and death from ignorance, rather than life and happiness from knowledge and prevention.”(MS,“Birth Control or Abortion?” Birth Control Review [Dec. 1918]: 3-4 [MSM S70:0809])

"Knowledge and prevention". That's what I've been talking about.

Odd that Margaret Sanger and I would have the same message.

[Susanm]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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Yeah. Silly us, having a lifestyle that encompases all the love and caring that G-d intended for humanity.
LOL

How dare you think that you are entitled to things that "normal" people have!!!!(sarcasm)

[Susanm]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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Awww Sue, you're ruining the only fun this nut has! <<grin>>

Is that what you call it?

[grumpy]

SapphireBlue wrote:

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Common sense - sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts.
Simple perception.

I don't know where you got this but the exact opposite is true, e.g. if you look down the railroad track and the rails seem to come together; do you perceive any reason why they don't? No. But common sense tells you that they don't.

[Susanm]

Long Night Moon 13 wrote:

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WTH is he even going on about?

Who knows but it's vile.

[SapphireBlue]

Bitner wrote:

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The only "abortion" information she "gave out" in that publication was to say that though there are times when it is "justifiable", that preventing pregnancy will prevent abortions. Given the direct quote above, any reasonable person would conclude that by "justifiable", she meant to save the life of the woman.

I know. Odd, huh? On my soap box, I speak out about prevention as the only sure fire way to prevent abortions too.

She did say that if a woman chooses to have an abortion, she should put her mind to it in the first phases and get it done.

But we have the morning after pill now. Wonder why that's not being emphasized more by more women with a pulpit.