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Since: Sep 08

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#282393 Feb 6, 2013
Katie wrote:
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<thud>
Yup. He really IS that stupid. Pathetic isn't it?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#282394 Feb 6, 2013
STO wrote:
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"I even admit, that for years I was "for " abortion."
Interesting. I can't recall a PCer stating he/she was "for" abortion.
That's like his claim that he was a "g-d hating athiest", yet Athiest's DONT hate G-d....

The boy is a moron.
Ocean56

AOL

#282395 Feb 6, 2013
Forum wrote:
Why do these people have the right to choose if a baby can be born?
Because this isn't the 1850's or 1950's anymore, and women DO have rights now, including the right to decide for ourselves as individuals whether or not to continue a pregnancy.

Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, and a woman can reject it for any reason, including the most basic one; she DOESN'T want to be a mother. If a woman doesn't want the hardships and responsibilities that motherhood involves, she doesn't have to accept them. It's as simple as that.
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#282396 Feb 6, 2013
LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:
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That's like his claim that he was a "g-d hating athiest", yet Athiest's DONT hate G-d....
The boy is a moron.
You are too kind, Foo.
He'll never appreciate it, either.

:|
Ocean56

AOL

#282397 Feb 6, 2013
If girls and women think school or work is hard now, they should know that becoming a mother will be ten times harder. Many mothers and grandmothers don’t tell young girls and women in their family exactly how hard motherhood truly is, for reasons known only to them. I strongly disagree with the practice of keeping girls in ignorance of this. I believe they NEED to know what being a mother will require of them, so they can make an informed decision about being a mother, even if it means some girls will decide not to be mothers at any point in their lives. That is just fine if some don't want to be mothers. Not all girls or women are suited to be moms, and choosing NOT to be a mother is just as valid as the choice to be one.

Some of the hardships mothers of all ages will face once a baby arrives include -- but are not limited to -- the following:

1. Loss of freedom
2. Loss of sleep
3. Loss of money
4. Loss of education and job/career opportunities
5. Loss of mobility
6. Loss of private time
7. Dealing with colic

There is no escaping the fact that becoming a mother makes a girl’s/woman's life much HARDER and she loses most, if not all, of the benefits and comforts she had before she got pregnant. Too many girls/women are PRESSURED into having children by family members and/or religious community, and purposely aren't told just how very hard motherhood is until AFTER they have had a baby. I think it is high time that changed. If some girls/women decide they don't want the hardships of motherhood, that is fine. The choice for a woman to be childfree is just as valid and respectable as the choice to be a mother.
Katie

Spanaway, WA

#282398 Feb 6, 2013
STO wrote:
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It's easier for him to tell me I'm going to hell. They always do.
I'm a Christian, and I've never told anyone they are going to hell. How would I know? Oh wait! I shoulda asked Gtown or sjm. They're in the know, ya know.
Definitely JM. Not too sure about this Gtown character, though.

:p
Obskeptic

Northville, MI

#282399 Feb 6, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Opinions? You've stated everything as a fact, and you are fu**ing well wrong.
Stop acting like gay men just beamed in from another planet. We are just like everyone else, and we have the right to adopt in 48 states.
You know NOTHING about gays of either gender; you just skate along on your ignorance and prejudice, and spew your meaningless opinions.
<quoted text>
That explains everything. Of course your smarter then the God that created us. His engineering design clearly intended the crapper to be an exit hole only. He never intended for guys like yourself to twist that into a lifetime of trying to shove some other guys crap in the opposite direction. How sad that a child would be forced by the command of the state to be subjected to such perversion.
Obskeptic

Northville, MI

#282400 Feb 6, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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And there are also many other women who DON'T regret having an abortion. I know you don't like admitting this is true, but it is.
http://www.imnotsorry.net
I wonder how many of these "women" took the time to actually watch video of a tiny little baby being pulled out of the womb in pieces. You should take the time to watch the great work of the abortionist that you defend so vigorously. The partial birth video I posted is especially fun to watch. I just love how the doctor plunges that instrument into the back of the skull before they remove the lifeless corpse and throw it away. It must make you feel so proud to be an American.
Senator Chuck Hagel

Bethpage, NY

#282401 Feb 6, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
If girls and women think school or work is hard now, they should know that becoming a mother will be ten times harder. Many mothers and grandmothers don’t tell young girls and women in their family exactly how hard motherhood truly is, for reasons known only to them. I strongly disagree with the practice of keeping girls in ignorance of this. I believe they NEED to know what being a mother will require of them, so they can make an informed decision about being a mother, even if it means some girls will decide not to be mothers at any point in their lives. That is just fine if some don't want to be mothers. Not all girls or women are suited to be moms, and choosing NOT to be a mother is just as valid as the choice to be one.
Some of the hardships mothers of all ages will face once a baby arrives include -- but are not limited to -- the following:
1. Loss of freedom
2. Loss of sleep
3. Loss of money
4. Loss of education and job/career opportunities
5. Loss of mobility
6. Loss of private time
7. Dealing with colic
There is no escaping the fact that becoming a mother makes a girl’s/woman's life much HARDER and she loses most, if not all, of the benefits and comforts she had before she got pregnant. Too many girls/women are PRESSURED into having children by family members and/or religious community, and purposely aren't told just how very hard motherhood is until AFTER they have had a baby. I think it is high time that changed. If some girls/women decide they don't want the hardships of motherhood, that is fine. The choice for a woman to be childfree is just as valid and respectable as the choice to be a mother.
show up at my office today at 9am; I'll show you what pressure is

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282402 Feb 6, 2013
The fact is that life already began; it's a process, not an event.

The sperm is alive, as is the ovum. So were the suppliers of both, so were their progenitors, etc. As far as individuals are concerned, their lives "begin" at their successful birthing. It's why we celebrate birthdays, not conception days.

I get the point; you're just another zealot who dismisses all your deity's evil actions. Go ahead and worship your child-killing, virgin-raping sky-daddy, but the rest of us aren't interested.
Gtown71 wrote:
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As far as "when " people believed life started in the womb. It just doesn't matter, becouse "LIFE STARTS IN THE WOMB ".
That is just fact!
Now as far as being ignorant about the things of God.
You totaly miss the point.
God is God!
He didn't have to protect His Son from herod. Hello God verses man -man loses.
God "allowed " herod to kill the kids.
God "allowed " the nutball to kill the kids at sandy hook.
God "allowed" the nut ball that killed the kids at sandy hook, to blow himself into Hell.
God allowed hitler to do what he did.
God allows you, to live contrary to His wishes.
Best of all God "who, if wanted to, could rake the entire sinfilled world into Hell " "allowed " His Son to die for our sins.
It is not Gods plan for any human to die and go to a "devils Hell ",which was NEVER made for humans, but God "allows " people to go to Hell, when they bypass His plan for salvation. Plan for saving us.
God gave man (people) free will.
He will not intervene, just becouse man (people) use their free will to do stupid to evil stuff.
Ocean56

AOL

#282403 Feb 6, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
I wonder how many of these "women" took the time to actually watch video of a tiny little baby being pulled out of the womb in pieces. You should take the time to watch the great work of the abortionist that you defend so vigorously.
Personally, I couldn't care less what you "wonder." The fact remains that there are many women who DON'T regret having an abortion. They only regret GETTING pregnant in the first place.

http://www.imnotsorry.net
Ocean56

AOL

#282404 Feb 6, 2013
Senator Chuck Hagel wrote:
show up at my office today at 9am; I'll show you what pressure is
The REAL Senator Chuck Hagel probably doesn't have time to post on message boards. If he did, I think he would know how to write a simple sentence correctly.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#282405 Feb 6, 2013
When have I ever denied being gay? I've mentioned it several times on this board alone.

You cannot know us and say we spend most of our time in bed; that's absurd. How would you even have met us if that were true? Even your assessment of us is inaccurate; we are no more or less likely to be "sweet" than straight guys.

Youcan have any opinion you want, but when it is based on pure crap, you're going to be called out on it. That's the flip side of free speech.

I have no problem with straight people until they start making uninformed judgments of us.
Guppy wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you are gay. You won't admit it. That's fine.
YOU DON'T KNOW ME, SO YOU CAN'T SAY I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GAYS OF EITHER GENDER. I haven't met many gay women, but I have met a fair amount of gay men. I USUALLY LIKE THEM BETTER THAN STRAIGHT MEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE BETTER PERSONALITIES AND ALSO A LOT OF THEM HAVE A SWEETNESS THAT STRAIGHT MEN DON'T HAVE.
I stand by my no adoption opinion. That's my prerogative.
Ignorance? prejudice? meaningless opinions? ISN'T IT IRONIC THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE OPINIONS OF ME, BUT I AM NOT ALLOWED TO . Very interesting. That is pretty ignorant, isn't it?
Don't you like straight women? Guess not. That's OK! It doesn't matter. You are entitled.
Ocean56

AOL

#282406 Feb 6, 2013
Some of the hardships mothers of all ages will face once a baby arrives include -- but are not limited to -- the following:

HARDSHIP #1: LOSS OF FREEDOM - Having a baby really does change everything, including the freedom that girls and women used to have in abundance. Once the baby arrives, that freedom will be gone, for at least the next five or six years and possibly longer. Teen girls and young women who become moms can forget about going out with friends, whether to the movies, to hang out at their favorite restaurant or coffee shop, or anywhere else for that matter. If they do go out, they’ll have to take the baby with them if their parents refuse to babysit. If the baby is sick or very cranky for any number of reasons, girls will end up staying home instead of going out. Girls who are still in middle or high school will find it much harder to do their homework assignments or study for exams when they have to care for a baby as well. It will be a very long time before girls get any of their former freedom back.

HARDSHIP #2: LOSS OF SLEEP - The first thing girls and women have to know about motherhood is that newborn babies do NOT sleep eight hours a night. All mothers, myself included, can honestly say that babies can – and do – wake up during the night as many as two or three times. Each time the baby wakes up, mom has to get up with the baby, feed the baby, change the baby’s diaper (which could be a messy one), and then get the baby back to sleep. When my son was a newborn baby, there were nights where I got NO sleep whatsoever. Luckily for me, I had completed high school and post-high school education long before that, so I didn’t have to get up at 5:00am to go to school after having almost no sleep. Those who are teen moms will not be so lucky.

HARDSHIP #3: LOSS OF MONEY - Whatever money a girl/woman used to spend on herself will have to be spent on the baby, and that cost is far more than most girls could begin to anticipate. These costs include diapers, food, clothing, baby equipment (car seat, crib, stroller, baby carriers, baby and child toys, etc.) and so much more. Anyone who wants to do the math can begin their research by going to their local grocery store and checking out the baby food and diaper sections. Just make sure you have a notebook and calculator, because you will need to multiply those costs for each item several times per week. That’s just for food and diapers, you haven’t even started on the costs for clothing, baby equipment and toys. That will add a staggering amount to your calculations, and the sum will be far higher than you could imagine. If you plan to put the baby in day care for any amount of time during the week, you will have to add up those costs too. Get the picture now? Having a baby costs a HUGE amount of money, which many girls and young women simply do not have, unless they have wealthy parents.
Ocean56

AOL

#282407 Feb 6, 2013
More hardships of motherhood:

HARDSHIP #4: LOSS OF EDUCATION AND JOB/CAREER OPPORTUNITIES – As hard as it is to acknowledge, a working mother of any age cannot have the same kind of freedom, flexibility or mobility as a woman without children has. If a girl cannot complete high school due to the demands of motherhood, she will not be able to go to college or vocational school, as both typically require a high school diploma first. That automatically limits her ability to find good employment, and she may well have to settle for a minimum wage job, which pays far less than what is needed to raise a child comfortably. Girls and women who complete high school may find that many jobs require a college degree or vocational school certificate, and without those, she may still not be able to get a job that pays a decent salary. A high school diploma alone is no guarantee of good employment, but all girls need one if they hope to advance to higher levels of education that their chosen job or career requires.

HARDSHIP #5: LOSS OF MOBILITY – Those who don’t have children have a rather naďve idea that parents can just as easily take a baby with them whenever they go out. They are half right. Yes, parents can take a baby out with them, but it is far from easy. Even going to the grocery store with a baby can be a huge hassle. First they have to get the baby dressed, which can be difficult when the little one is happy being home and doesn’t want to be dressed to go out. After getting baby dressed, which can take much longer than mom expected, mom then has to put baby into the car seat, get baby out of the car seat when she arrives at the store, then carry baby around until she can find a cart with an infant carrier. Most grocery stores have very few of those, as I personally discovered long ago. Some may not have any. Going to a restaurant with a baby can also be very stressful, especially if baby suddenly begins crying or screaming for unknown reasons. Mothers who walk into restaurants with screaming or crying babies will find themselves the object of hostile stares, which usually last until they finally have to leave.
Ocean56

AOL

#282408 Feb 6, 2013
But wait, there's more:

HARDSHIP #6: LOSS OF PRIVATE TIME – When a baby arrives, a mom will quickly find that she doesn’t have privacy any more. If she used to read books for hours with few or no interruptions, that will no longer be an option for her. If she is a teen mom who needs quiet time to complete her homework assignments or study for important final exams, that won’t be possible either. A baby will demand her attention many times during the day, so she won’t have private time for doing the things she enjoys or needs to complete.

HARDSHIP #7: DEALING WITH COLIC – For girls/women who are unaware, colic is a long period of crying, screaming and shrieking that can last for many hours a day, and even all night. It can begin when the baby is as young as three weeks old, and it can go on until the baby is five months old. My son had colic for almost two months as an infant. For me, it seemed more like two years. During that time, the crying usually began in the early evening and would last until past midnight. I would walk around the small apartment, carrying him in my arms, for hours trying to comfort him, but nothing I did really worked. He wouldn’t eat, and he most certainly didn’t sleep, and I was a wreck as a result. Being deprived of sleep, with a colicky baby on top of that, can really feel like torture for a mom after a while. I was no exception.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#282409 Feb 6, 2013
This post will be unpopular by the PC camp, but here's a little something I noticed. It'll be a lot more informative and factual than the posts the PCers post in here.

As I scrolled by the usual bullshit filled posts made by Foo, and the stupid posts made by certain other PCers, something caught my eye. It made me want to prove something. I then scrolled through the pages since I last posted here yesterday just for fun, to see how many posts Foo or any other PCer made in which a certain name was mentioned in their posts.

Posts #s 282227, 282240, 282242, 282243, 282246, 282248, 282250, 282253, 282255, 282257, 282258, 282259, 282263, 282266, 282271, 282272, 282276, 282277, 282281, 282282, 282286, 282293, 282380.

23 posts, ALL by PCers, ALL have something about "Lynne" in their posts. One by Bitner, one by Katie, one by STO and 20 by Foo, all posting the name Lynne or about Lynne.


My last post yesterday was # 282224 which was before Foo started posting.

3 of my posts were to Foo about Foo's bullshit that she can't stop talking about,(things about Lynne, whom Foo uses me as her excuse to obsess and lie about); 1 of my posts was in response to Katie about Foo's and Katie's senseless "mutual abuse" claims.

The rest of my MANY posts yesterday were on the abortion topic. Mostly proving Katie, Bitner and Elise are ignorant buffoons with what they post on the abortion topic. Or in Katie's case, about her ignorant defense of the stupidity and lies coming from Bitner yesterday.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/abortion/T833...

282242

About 20 posts after I left yesterday,
Foo wrote:
<quoted text>
"Since when have you been here to discuss abortion, Toots?.
WHo the hell are YOU to talk Lynniekins?? ROFLMAO!

You're here to make it ALL ABOUT LYNNE! LOLOL!"

Since my name is Lily, and she posted that to me,
the facts on display here show that not only did Foo lie again, claiming I don't post on the topic of abortion,(because except for 4 posts replying to Foo and Katie ALL my posts yesterday were on the abortion topic), but she displayed she's the one "here to make it ALL ABOUT LYNNE!". 20 posts worth yesterday, by Foo, "ALL ABOUT LYNNE!"

lol, that's how obvious her stupidity and ignorance is to people who aren't senseless ignorant buffoons. But, will she and the other PCers see it? Of course not.

Bitner, Katie, Elise, Ayakaneo, CD and STO do it too, but not to the same irrational out of control degree as Foo.
Those fools don't see that no one else is making it "ALL ABOUT LYNNE", as Foo claimed, except the nutcase herself, Foo. The ones who think what she posts matters to anyone else but ignorant buffoons, are all irational mental caes.

What did Foo prove, with her irrational actions and posts, to anyone who isn't a lying PC bonehead ? Not a damned thing about anyone other than herself. She proved she's a mental case and a liar.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#282410 Feb 6, 2013
STO wrote:
<quoted text>
It's easier for him to tell me I'm going to hell. They always do.
I'm a Christian, and I've never told anyone they are going to hell. How would I know? Oh wait! I shoulda asked Gtown or sjm. They're in the know, ya know.
Apparently, they belief that God needs them to pass judgment upon people. He can't handle it, Himself.
Guppy

Englewood, FL

#282411 Feb 6, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The fact is that life already began; it's a process, not an event.
The sperm is alive, as is the ovum. So were the suppliers of both, so were their progenitors, etc. As far as individuals are concerned, their lives "begin" at their successful birthing. It's why we celebrate birthdays, not conception days.
I get the point; you're just another zealot who dismisses all your deity's evil actions. Go ahead and worship your child-killing, virgin-raping sky-daddy, but the rest of us aren't interested.
<quoted text>
Your avatar - is that a painting of you in drag? The colors are pretty.

“Pro-Life”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#282412 Feb 6, 2013
Intelligent people will be able to see that my prior post was about the senseless pro-choicers and their stupidity. Not about the person they keep being stupid about.

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