Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.

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Bitner wrote:
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You're not "reading her right". She is talking about BEFORE THEY HAVE SEX. There IS no pregnancy to decide about if there has been NO sex. Correct?
So, what you're trying hard to NOT say, is that you only want them "informed" if it will result in the decision YOU want them to make. Got it.
If I was to tell young people that college has hardships involved, like sometimes having to walk to class in bad weather, sleepless nights, stress before exams, and poor diet among other things, I can guarantee you that I will probably disuade about 25% of them not to go to college.

What I have to ask myself is 'do I have a right to try to disuade them from going to college'?
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Gtown71 wrote:
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No grumps, I'm afraid you have no idea.
My daughter WAS part of my wifes body.
She's five years old now and she is still part of my wife 'her mothers " body.
She will forevermore be part of my wifes body.
You're the one that doesn't understand.
This is a precious life.
You are a precious life!
You may think your daughter is part of your wife's body but your daughter doesn't think that your wife is part of your daughter's body. Just wait until your daughter is a teen-ager and demands that you figuratively sever the umbillical cord that you literally couldn't sever when she was born.
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I believe every teenage girl or young woman should at least TRY to make it work despite the hardships she will experience. Then if it turns out is just too much for her, then she should give that child up for adoption.
This much too glib a thought to be taken seriously. Do ever think things through before putting it out there for others to read/hear?

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C'mon! Think. The infant in the incubator is born. Born. Unattached, crying, being fed, being changed and most importantly breathing.
Can that 'born' baby live without the incubator? If that baby can't live without the incubator, then that baby is not a fully-functioning human being and should not be given the status of 'person' until the baby can live outside the incubator, yes?

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BraveCon wrote:
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So, if you think that the women who want babies should try to go to full-term despite having no guarantees, then why should any woman not try to raise a baby if she has one?
You PCers should encourage every young girl/women to try to raise a baby if/when she gets pregnant. They should never be encouraged to 'wimp out' and get an abortion if/when they get pregnant.
I encourage women to make whatever decision they think is best for themselves, without interference from you, or, me or anyone else. You are very fond of telling everyone what they should and should not do, about things that are none of your business.

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No, they are not "the same age". Age, like personhood, begins at birth.
Good point.

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BraveCon wrote:
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If I was to tell young people that college has hardships involved, like sometimes having to walk to class in bad weather, sleepless nights, stress before exams, and poor diet among other things, I can guarantee you that I will probably disuade about 25% of them not to go to college.
What I have to ask myself is 'do I have a right to try to disuade them from going to college'?
LOL, more deflection.

There is nothing wrong with trying to discourage young girls from having sex in the first place. Nothing.

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BraveCon wrote:
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If I was to tell young people that college has hardships involved, like sometimes having to walk to class in bad weather, sleepless nights, stress before exams, and poor diet among other things, I can guarantee you that I will probably disuade about 25% of them not to go to college.
What I have to ask myself is 'do I have a right to try to disuade them from going to college'?
How can you guarantee such a thing, honey? Oh, I know... you can't. You don't even know that you are dissuading anybody. All you know is that you are informing them of the hardships of college life.

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BraveCon wrote:
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Can that 'born' baby live without the incubator? If that baby can't live without the incubator, then that baby is not a fully-functioning human being and should not be given the status of 'person' until the baby can live outside the incubator, yes?
No. That infant will rely on a variety of caregivers and h/she is a long way off from being fully functioning independently whether in or out of an incubator.

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If I was to tell young people that college has hardships involved, like sometimes having to walk to class in bad weather, sleepless nights, stress before exams, and poor diet among other things, I can guarantee you that I will probably disuade about 25% of them not to go to college.
What I have to ask myself is 'do I have a right to try to disuade them from going to college'?
Huh! So you have a problem with discouraging "young people" from having sex before they're ready?
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Can that 'born' baby live without the incubator? If that baby can't live without the incubator, then that baby is not a fully-functioning human being and should not be given the status of 'person' until the baby can live outside the incubator, yes?
No. ALS does not negate personhood.
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C'mon! Think. The infant in the incubator is born. Born. Unattached, crying, being fed, being changed and most importantly breathing.
AJ! Thinking is not this op's forte.
(hope you are well)

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Anyone see this?

"Save the 1 intends to remove and prevent 'rape exceptions', starting with the Hyde Amendment. Save the 1 is a reference to the parable of the lost sheep in Matthew 18:10-14, in which the shepherd leaves his 99 sheep behind to find the 1 sheep who was lost.

"Rape and abortion are wrong for the same reason; they are both violent acts of aggression against another person," continued Kiessling. "If you really care about rape victims, you should want to protect them from the rapist, and from the abortion, and NOT the baby. A baby is not the worst thing which can happen to a rape victim an abortion is."
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/21/5129952/rape...
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Personally, I think Gtown is trying to convince us he's this new Mr. Progressive guy because his archaic views make him look bad. However, given the fact that he complained constantly in a previous post about "what kind of man would do housework," his efforts are failing miserably.
He certainly hasn't convinced ME of his conversion from Mr. Archaic, and I doubt he's convinced anyone else either.
I've convinced my wife, and that's all that matters, but I never had to convince her. She's always known me.

I still think in a perfect world the man goes outside the home to work, and the wife does the work "which is a full time job " at home.

It was what was best for us in an imperfect world.

I never said the work was benieth me.
That's what you feel about house work.

My wife and I have been together since I was 14.
She's almost 2 years older then me.
I have Never in our marriage demanded her, or really even asked her to cook the first meal for me.

I've always enjoyed cooking, except it seems like it is hard to find something new.
Pork, chicken, beef.
I like croc pots, but they to get old.

Plus my wife is a very picky eater.
I've never ate alot of foods, unless the holidays at others homes.

When I first met her -she ate plain cheeseburgers and spaggetti O 's. Lol

I'm not anything special, but I don't lie.

Gotta go unload the dishwasher now. Lol

Ps -I just last montg fiquered out what those little plastic dividers were. To keep silverware seperate.

The washing machine has way to many settings, and I sometimes throw things together that shouldn't be.

I wash on cold, is there a reason to use hot, unless somethings really dirty?

I fold rags and towels into 3 's, becouse they look better.

My biggest challange is how it is doing the same thing over and over and over again.

I like the tv on, but if not careful, I don't get done what I want done.

So I listen to K -Love, which is a station you may have, but care nothing about. May you give it atleast a try???

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Katie wrote:
Anyone see this?
"Save the 1 intends to remove and prevent 'rape exceptions', starting with the Hyde Amendment. Save the 1 is a reference to the parable of the lost sheep in Matthew 18:10-14, in which the shepherd leaves his 99 sheep behind to find the 1 sheep who was lost.
"Rape and abortion are wrong for the same reason; they are both violent acts of aggression against another person," continued Kiessling. "If you really care about rape victims, you should want to protect them from the rapist, and from the abortion, and NOT the baby. A baby is not the worst thing which can happen to a rape victim an abortion is."
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/21/5129952/rape...
These people are nuts.

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elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>These people are nuts.
They're control freaks. Emphasis on "freaks".

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Katie wrote:
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AJ! Thinking is not this op's forte.
(hope you are well)
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Katie! I'm swell.(Reminds me of an "I Love Lucy" episode.)
How be you?

The OP is thinking furiously and dogged in his attempts to find a loophole. Should remind him that the first birthday is celebrated one year after birth. Not at conception or any other point prior to birth.

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Katie wrote:
Anyone see this?
"Save the 1 intends to remove and prevent 'rape exceptions', starting with the Hyde Amendment. Save the 1 is a reference to the parable of the lost sheep in Matthew 18:10-14, in which the shepherd leaves his 99 sheep behind to find the 1 sheep who was lost.
"Rape and abortion are wrong for the same reason; they are both violent acts of aggression against another person," continued Kiessling. "If you really care about rape victims, you should want to protect them from the rapist, and from the abortion, and NOT the baby. A baby is not the worst thing which can happen to a rape victim an abortion is."
http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/21/5129952/rape...
I think rape would go way down if the punishment was automatic castration, but there are too many who believe this would be cruel and unusual punishment.

Its unfortunate that our society is filled with many bleeding heart lawyers, judges, and legislators who don't want to pass tougher anti-rape laws. If I was the President or a member of Congress, I would push for automatic castration if you're convicted of rape and it would have no 'three stikes and you're out' clause.

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Katie! I'm swell.(Reminds me of an "I Love Lucy" episode.)
How be you?
The OP is thinking furiously and dogged in his attempts to find a loophole. Should remind him that the first birthday is celebrated one year after birth. Not at conception or any other point prior to birth.
Exactly. On the day I was born, my age was 0, not 8 months.
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Ocean56 wrote:
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Here's the thing you don't seem to get, dude; there are married couples who NEVER want kids, and they're not going to change their minds about that. They have made the decision to be childFREE, which simply means no kids by CHOICE. There's no "it's too late to have kids" for them, because they never wanted any kids to begin with.
By the way, there are many things a childfree couple can do when they don't have kids. If eating out at restaurants and coffee shops doesn't interest them at some point, they can switch to something else.
Yes ocean I was a stay at home dad for 3 years , and being I'm self employed I'm still the one that stays at home, when my daughter is out of school. I am the one that picks her up from school, and I take her at times, but norm her mom does.

Being that my wife and I were together over 20 years without any kids, then I know all about how much more freedom folks have.

I used to eatout all the time, and did whatever I /we pleased. Ofcourse people without kids can do alot more stuff without kids.
Now that we have one, it is a given! Lol

Yet those things are not very fullfilling in the long hall.
Before I was saved I was even for abortion, and I may have even talked my wife "or suggested "that she have an abortion if we were with child early in our marriage.

Again -after I was saved all of my core values was changed, and all of this was done, before I went to any church or read any old book "bible ",yet by faith and my own personal experience I truly believe Jesus Christ is who He says He is.
Many things used to bother my wife, that didn't bother me AT ALL!
Like you -I thought all who thought my lifestlye was sinful was just outdate fuddy duddy.
I look back and realized my wife was saved at age 11, and I was saved at 29, so she was married to 2 different guys, yet the same guy.

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