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[mememine69]

Common Ground on Climate Change Belief:
Let deniers, former believers and believers all agree that when science finally says a climate change crisis is imminent, not just “likely” we shall all agree the danger is in fact real.
Agreed?

[PHD]

mememine69 wrote:

Former Climate Change Believers Are Better Planet Lovers!
Science is certain comet hits are imminent yet science has never said a climate change crisis is imminent, only “likely” and “potentially” etc. A “climate crisis” would be like a comet hit, only worse so how close to the point of no return will science take us before they say the ultimate crisis “WILL” happen, not just might happen?
Not one single IPCC warning is without “maybes”,“Help my planet could be on fire maybe?” Since 27 more years of “maybe” is unsustainable, science needs to be crystal clear about it being a real crisis or not. Like why would we WANT this misery to be true?
If it were a crisis, they would have said so. Deny that!

You can't deny scientific science fiction. They also use my opinion, prediction, could be, should be and forecast.

[Antonio]

Such a farce

[gcaveman1]

The federal government is facing significant financial risks related to extreme weather events, and states and cities can no longer depend on it for extra help after such events occur, the Republican chairman of House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said Friday.

The warning from Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., came at a press conference about the release of a new report by the Government Accountability Office, which identified “climate change” on its 2013 list of items presenting high risk to the federal government.

The report said the federal government faces financial challenges from climate change, including the costs of weather-related damage to property it owns, losses through flood insurance and crop support programs, and costs of emergency aid in disasters.

The report is a biennial assessment of government operations it deems at high risk for fraud, waste, abuse and mismanagement or as otherwise "needing broad-based transformation." Some of its other recommendations:

Develop a better understanding of how a changing climate will affect the large federal flood and crop insurance programs. For instance, the report said, sea-level rise and long-term erosion should be considered when flood maps are updated.
Develop a federal approach to providing climate data to state and local governments so they can make better decisions.
Develop better criteria for FEMA to assess a jurisdiction's ability to recover on its own after a disaster.

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Darrell Issa has always been one of Congress's biggest climate dumbasses, but he's accepting it now because he sees it as a way to pull federal aid out from under cities and states. Gotta cut that spending, he insists, even if it drives states into bankruptcy.

I don't know the numbers, but I would guess that if Louisiana, Mississippi, or New Jersey had to bear alone the cost of their recent climate disasters, they and their citizens would suffer tremendous economic hardship.

[PHD]

gcaveman1 wrote:

The federal government is facing significant financial risks related to extreme weather events, and states and cities can no longer depend on it for extra help after such events occur, the Republican chairman of House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said Friday.
The warning from Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., came at a press conference about the release of a new report by the Government Accountability Office, which identified “climate change” on its 2013 list of items presenting high risk to the federal government.
The report said the federal government faces financial challenges from climate change, including the costs of weather-related damage to property it owns, losses through flood insurance and crop support programs, and costs of emergency aid in disasters.
The report is a biennial assessment of government operations it deems at high risk for fraud, waste, abuse and mismanagement or as otherwise "needing broad-based transformation." Some of its other recommendations:
Develop a better understanding of how a changing climate will affect the large federal flood and crop insurance programs. For instance, the report said, sea-level rise and long-term erosion should be considered when flood maps are updated.
Develop a federal approach to providing climate data to state and local governments so they can make better decisions.
Develop better criteria for FEMA to assess a jurisdiction's ability to recover on its own after a disaster.
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Darrell Issa has always been one of Congress's biggest climate dumbasses, but he's accepting it now because he sees it as a way to pull federal aid out from under cities and states. Gotta cut that spending, he insists, even if it drives states into bankruptcy.
I don't know the numbers, but I would guess that if Louisiana, Mississippi, or New Jersey had to bear alone the cost of their recent climate disasters, they and their citizens would suffer tremendous economic hardship.

EXCELLENT !!!!

[gcaveman1]

mememine69 wrote:

Former Climate Change Believers Are Better Planet Lovers!
Science is certain comet hits are imminent yet science has never said a climate change crisis is imminent, only “likely” and “potentially” etc. A “climate crisis” would be like a comet hit, only worse so how close to the point of no return will science take us before they say the ultimate crisis “WILL” happen, not just might happen?
Not one single IPCC warning is without “maybes”,“Help my planet could be on fire maybe?” Since 27 more years of “maybe” is unsustainable, science needs to be crystal clear about it being a real crisis or not. Like why would we WANT this misery to be true?
If it were a crisis, they would have said so. Deny that!

Maybe the last time there were no "maybes" or "likelys" was when Newton claimed to have figured it all out. Then Einstein came along. You don't understand the openess of science.

No physicist today claims that Einstein's work is the last word. There are always mysteries and questions.

There are mysteries and questions about climate change, but that doesn't negate the whole theory or the body of work already known.

If climatologists had crystal balls, they'd say what you think they should. Until then, you're just sounding like a fool.

[HomoSapiensLapto picus]

gcaveman1 wrote:

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Maybe the last time there were no "maybes" or "likelys" was when Newton claimed to have figured it all out. Then Einstein came along. You don't understand the openess of science.
No physicist today claims that Einstein's work is the last word. There are always mysteries and questions.
There are mysteries and questions about climate change, but that doesn't negate the whole theory or the body of work already known.
If climatologists had crystal balls, they'd say what you think they should. Until then, you're just sounding like a fool.

Somehow I bet Darryl Issa would very much like New Jersey & New York to pay their own way, but maybe not the reliable red states...

Newtonian physics are entirely included as a special case of Einsteinian physics (though the converse is not true). Still, both general relativity & quantum mechanics have been verified many times over for the very large & very small, respectively, but they are completely incompatible.

If one of the versions of string theory proves correct, GT & QM should be special cases of that theory.

[flack]

gcaveman1 wrote:

<quoted text>
At any given moment there are twenty million people farting.

With 7 billion people I imagine it's a lot more than that.

[HomoSapiensLapto picus]

HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:

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Somehow I bet Darryl Issa would very much like New Jersey & New York to pay their own way, but maybe not the reliable red states...
Newtonian physics are entirely included as a special case of Einsteinian physics (though the converse is not true). Still, both general relativity & quantum mechanics have been verified many times over for the very large & very small, respectively, but they are completely incompatible.
If one of the versions of string theory proves correct, GT & QM should be special cases of that theory.

Erratum:

Oops, I meant GR instead of GT in the last paragraph. GR = general relativity.

[SpaceBlues]

flack wrote:

<quoted text> With 7 billion people I imagine it's a lot more than that.

One out of every 350 men, women, and children???

You just flick flack, that's all.

[PHD]

More words of wisdom from the spaced out spacedoutblues commander #2 TROLL!!!

[SpaceBlues]

HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:

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Erratum:
Oops, I meant GR instead of GT in the last paragraph. GR = general relativity.

Oooops GRT is OK with me.

:-)

[PHD]

SpaceBlues wrote:

<quoted text>Oooops GRT is OK with me.
:-)

More words of wisdom from the spaced out spacedoutblues commander #2 TROLL!!!

[gcaveman1]

LONDON — The world has missed the chance to keep greenhouse gas emissions below the level needed to prevent the temperature climbing above 2° Celsius, according to the British scientist who used to chair the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

The scientist, Sir Robert Watson, chaired the Panel from 1997 until 2002, when he was ousted after U.S. pressure for his removal.

Watson said there is a 50-50 chance of preventing global average temperatures rising more than 3°C above their level at the start of the industrial age, but a 5°C rise is possible. That would mean the Earth warming more than it has since the end of the last Ice Age.

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Watson may be the alarmist you've all been looking for.

But what if he is right?

[HomoSapiensLapto picus]

gcaveman1 wrote:

LONDON — The world has missed the chance to keep greenhouse gas emissions below the level needed to prevent the temperature climbing above 2° Celsius, according to the British scientist who used to chair the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
The scientist, Sir Robert Watson, chaired the Panel from 1997 until 2002, when he was ousted after U.S. pressure for his removal.
Watson said there is a 50-50 chance of preventing global average temperatures rising more than 3°C above their level at the start of the industrial age, but a 5°C rise is possible. That would mean the Earth warming more than it has since the end of the last Ice Age.
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Watson may be the alarmist you've all been looking for.
But what if he is right?

HUH??? Warming more than it has since the end of the last ice age??

Actually, 3º C would make it the warmest since the Pliocene 3 Mya. 5º C would mean the warmest it's been for at least 15 Mya.

Of course it does seem that with a 5º C rise, it would be difficult to avoid significant methane release from the Arctic, which would cause a positive feedback, causing ever-higher temps & releasing all the methane ("firing the clathrate gun").

We'd then be heading for 7-11º C warmer, maybe even higher, like the PETM ~55 Mya. There'd be no ice on the earth.

[litesong]

'me me me getting mine in the 69 position' wrote:
..... science has never said a climate change crisis is imminent, only “likely” and “potentially”......

Let deniers, former believers and believers all agree that when science finally says a climate change crisis is imminent........
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litesong wrote:
'me me me getting mine in the 69 position' disappears for a while & returns with its best..........

See why it disappeared.

[someone]

Here's science you cant refute.

AMERICANS ARE TOO STUPID FOR DEMOCRACY

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/03/...

[someone]

litesong wrote:

'me me me getting mine in the 69 position' wrote:
..... science has never said a climate change crisis is imminent, only “likely” and “potentially”......
Let deniers, former believers and believers all agree that when science finally says a climate change crisis is imminent........
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litesong wrote:
'me me me getting mine in the 69 position' disappears for a while & returns with its best..........
See why it disappeared.

What's up with you posters pushing this agenda all over topix?

Don't you Retards follow scientific results?

Scientists have determined........
Belief in this man made hoax fluctuates with TEMPERATURE!

so you should be peddling carbon tax during the SUMMER when its HOT outside.

Youre able to convince more Retards to pay taxes for breathing.

[someone]

Admit the issue isn't "global warning"

The issue is global carbon tax.

The issue is the creation of a centralized global government to "oversee" this.

[PHD]

someone wrote:

Admit the issue isn't "global warning"
The issue is global carbon tax.
The issue is the creation of a centralized global government to "oversee" this.

The day is young and the local COMMANDER TROLLS haven't noticed your reply. Stay tuned more scientific science fiction will be out soon real soon.