Peaches Latour

Harrodsburg, KY

#43 Jan 6, 2013
Laws are going to be passed and there is nothing that you can do about it. Gun violance must be controlled. Assualt guns will be banned. Count on it. Gun owners will be required to register them and crime commited with the gun will be traced back to the owner. Anyone who has an unregistered gun will be guilt of a crime. No body is going to be impeached unless a future president is a gun nut. It is not just the killing of little kids. Every day you can read about innercity crime which uses guns. Destroy any gun not registered and put the gun owner in jail.
miss elly

Harrodsburg, KY

#44 Jan 6, 2013
Peaches Latour wrote:
Laws are going to be passed and there is nothing that you can do about it. Gun violance must be controlled. Assualt guns will be banned. Count on it. Gun owners will be required to register them and crime commited with the gun will be traced back to the owner. Anyone who has an unregistered gun will be guilt of a crime. No body is going to be impeached unless a future president is a gun nut. It is not just the killing of little kids. Every day you can read about innercity crime which uses guns. Destroy any gun not registered and put the gun owner in jail.
Go ahead and admit your self in to the nut house...hahahahah. That will never happen..haha eat you some left wings and maybe that will clear you of the diarreah of the mouth you have ...lol. Real Americans will not stand for this idiotoc BULLSH*T. Have a nice day!
Peaches Latour

Harrodsburg, KY

#45 Jan 6, 2013
miss elly wrote:
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Go ahead and admit your self in to the nut house...hahahahah. That will never happen..haha eat you some left wings and maybe that will clear you of the diarreah of the mouth you have ...lol. Real Americans will not stand for this idiotoc BULLSH*T. Have a nice day!
The gun nuts cannot win this one. What is wrong with registering guns. What is wrong with making a gun owner responsible for locking up his guns and being responsible if they kill. Why does anybody need an assualt rifle? Keep up your hard a-- demand for uncontrolled fire arms and you will be left without any. Laws are being written as we speak. Your hero Obama is leading the ban the gun charge. He claims that because he was elected he has a mandate. Biden is right behind him. Be a good girl and give up you pistol packing ways.
The Historian

United States

#46 Jan 7, 2013
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolph Hitler
Ask the Jewish children how this worked out for them. Oh you can't. They were burned, gassed, mutilated, shot and some were skinned to make light shades and decorations.
Green Hornet

Harrodsburg, KY

#47 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolph Hitler
Ask the Jewish children how this worked out for them. Oh you can't. They were burned, gassed, mutilated, shot and some were skinned to make light shades and decorations.
We are going to have a Hitler take over this country and take our guns and then burn, gas, and make lamp shades out of our skin?
Get real and wise up. People, including myself, arm themselves to protect our homes and children from what? Guns. Let me post this once more. No body is going to take away your rifle, hand gun, or shot gun. You will probably have to register your gun. You will probably will not be able to buy an assualt gun. You will probably will have to answer for carnage caused by a gun that you own. How can any civilized person not agree with that?
The Historian

United States

#48 Jan 7, 2013
We don’t need a Hitler to take our guns away. They have hired thugs to do that for them. Read your history. Right after Hurricane Katrina thugs, not honest law enforcement (by the way thanks to all of the good cops in the world), thugs started going door to door and confiscating weapons while people suffered and hungered. Read your history, try starting with the Ludlow Massacre. No one left to hurt and torture us. Read your history, research Sylvia Marie Likens and see what bad children are capable of doing. Not enough for you? How about Gacy, Dahmer, Manson. Any of those ring a bell?
As for the gun I own it has never caused carnage. As for the guns the rest of the law abiding citizens possess they have never committed carnage either. Only criminals and madmen cause carnage. Read your history.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#49 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
As for the guns the rest of the law abiding citizens possess they have never committed carnage either. Only criminals and madmen cause carnage. Read your history.
The problem with that is Adam Lanza was a "law abiding citizen" until he committed carnage. Then suddenly he wasn't a law abiding citizen. Your argument is invalid.
The Historian

United States

#50 Jan 7, 2013
You said it perfectly. He committed carnage, not the firearm. People commit carnage daily without the use of firearms. Rape, molestation, arson, torture, child abuse all are carnage. My arguement is valid as proved by your statement.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#51 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
You said it perfectly. He committed carnage, not the firearm. People commit carnage daily without the use of firearms. Rape, molestation, arson, torture, child abuse all are carnage. My arguement is valid as proved by your statement.
No that's not the point you were making. You said "As for the guns the rest of the law abiding citizens possess they have never committed carnage either." I destroyed your statement by point out that everyone is a law abiding citizen until they commit a crime, Adam Lanza case in point. This is why ownership of certain firearms are already banned and have been for decades. Read up on the tommy gun.

You are also incorrect. Carnage is defined as "great and usually bloody slaughter or injury (as in battle)" by Webster's Dictionary. Therefore molestation, rape, and child abuse, while despicable, is not carnage. It is also doubtful that any learned person would refer to arson as carnage.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#52 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolph Hitler
You also get an F in history, Historian. There is no record of Adolph Hitler making this statement. Just another made up quote on the internet.
lol

London, KY

#53 Jan 7, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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The problem with that is Adam Lanza was a "law abiding citizen" until he committed carnage. Then suddenly he wasn't a law abiding citizen. Your argument is invalid.
No his argument is not invalid Bart. We are suppose to change a way of life and change laws just because of Adam Lanza. That makes a lot of sense Bart....
lol

London, KY

#54 Jan 7, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
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You also get an F in history, Historian. There is no record of Adolph Hitler making this statement. Just another made up quote on the internet.
What the matter Bart. Did you Google this and nothing came up so there is no way Hitler said this. I guess we should all just kneel down and kiss your fat ass....
The Historian

Bethel, OH

#55 Jan 7, 2013
There are those that don't believe there are any records of Hilter and the nazis doing anything wrong, but that doesn't make it so. You are not of of those people that don't believe Hitler used gun registration and confiscation to further the extermination of the Jews and promote world domination are you? History, whether one believes or not, does not prove good for unarmed people in the face of evil men or women. Research what some of the old Jim Crow laws forbidding ex-slaves from possessing arms did for them. I'll bet the Klan loved laws keeping blacks from owning firearms.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#56 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
There are those that don't believe there are any records of Hilter and the nazis doing anything wrong, but that doesn't make it so. You are not of of those people that don't believe Hitler used gun registration and confiscation to further the extermination of the Jews and promote world domination are you? History, whether one believes or not, does not prove good for unarmed people in the face of evil men or women. Research what some of the old Jim Crow laws forbidding ex-slaves from possessing arms did for them. I'll bet the Klan loved laws keeping blacks from owning firearms.
Just show me a credible source which quotes Adolph Hitler as making that statement. Can you also provide the year he said that and a credible source it back it up? That's all I'm asking.

I'm sure as a Historian you will have no trouble doing it. Perhaps it's found in Mein Kampf?
The Historian

Bethel, OH

#57 Jan 7, 2013
While we are discussing Hitler one more tidbit about history. After pretty much eliminating private gun ownership in England after the 1920 gun ban, who did Churchill come begging to for arms? The answer: The United States. Makes you wonder why no foreign army has invaded the U.S. since the War of 1812. Who was it that said something about " a rifleman behind every blade of grass?"

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#58 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
There are those that don't believe there are any records of Hilter and the nazis doing anything wrong, but that doesn't make it so. You are not of of those people that don't believe Hitler used gun registration and confiscation to further the extermination of the Jews and promote world domination are you? History, whether one believes or not, does not prove good for unarmed people in the face of evil men or women. Research what some of the old Jim Crow laws forbidding ex-slaves from possessing arms did for them. I'll bet the Klan loved laws keeping blacks from owning firearms.
Look, I really don't have time to play cat and mouse with you. I realize that you are probably just repeating something that you heard someone else say, and you believed it. You can't do that. Most of what you hear is wrong.

If you want the truth on the matter, backed up by numerous sources, I would suggest that you read this page, follow the links, and read the citations. Be a real historian. Keep in mind that the main source used is "pro gun."

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1791...

I honestly wish you the best.

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#59 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
While we are discussing Hitler one more tidbit about history. After pretty much eliminating private gun ownership in England after the 1920 gun ban, who did Churchill come begging to for arms? The answer: The United States. Makes you wonder why no foreign army has invaded the U.S. since the War of 1812. Who was it that said something about " a rifleman behind every blade of grass?"
It would say that has more to do with our location and the difficulty in getting an invading force on our soil. You really think that the standing military of a major world power is scared of a rag tag band of citizens? Especially today.

When was the last time Canada was invaded?

Since: Oct 12

Baltimore, Maryland

#60 Jan 7, 2013
The Historian wrote:
While we are discussing Hitler one more tidbit about history. After pretty much eliminating private gun ownership in England after the 1920 gun ban, who did Churchill come begging to for arms? The answer: The United States. Makes you wonder why no foreign army has invaded the U.S. since the War of 1812. Who was it that said something about " a rifleman behind every blade of grass?"
Oh and by the way, you fail again. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-y...

You aren't a very good historian.
lol

London, KY

#61 Jan 7, 2013
One True Digger wrote:
<quoted text>
Look, I really don't have time to play cat and mouse with you. I realize that you are probably just repeating something that you heard someone else say, and you believed it. You can't do that. Most of what you hear is wrong.
If you want the truth on the matter, backed up by numerous sources, I would suggest that you read this page, follow the links, and read the citations. Be a real historian. Keep in mind that the main source used is "pro gun."
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1791...
I honestly wish you the best.
So Bart are you telling us that you are a historian. If so where did you get your degree. I dont remember this person saying he or she was an historian. I might have missed it though.

So if most of what you hear is wrong should we not believe what you say. I know you think are always right.
The Historian

Bethel, OH

#62 Jan 7, 2013
Please inform me as to why our location would make it difficult for an army to invade us. The Russians were building missile sites 90 miles off the coast of Florida in the 1960's. We have 1000's of miles of unguarded coastlines east and west and a southern border we can't even keep illegals from crossing.
Also please explain the "rag tag band of citizens" statement. Great Britain saw the Continental Army as a "rag tag band of citizens" right before we defeated them. The greatest military power in the world at time, a country on whose flag the sun never set, defeated by the armed citizen.
Also please state your views on the Jim Crow laws that kept freed slaves from arming themselves against the Klan and other racist groups. What about your views on the Sullivan Law from the early 1900's aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of immigrants and the impoverished. While you are at it, how about the laws in the 1990's that denied law abiding citizens the right to possess guns who lived in public housing. please state YOUR views specifically on the previous mentioned laws. Respectfully, Meow Meow waiting on you.

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