Bad wreck tonite
Digger

Lexington, KY

#94 May 1, 2012
Big Deal wrote:
He had pot in his system. That was all. The other person had drugs in his system too. The way I took it he had more than one. I may have misunderstood it. But he was messed up more than Van. So, what if it had been alcohol instead of pot. To some in this town, nothing would have been released in the paper about their alcohol level.
If pot was all he was doing, then hel* he was doing better than the ones who look down on smoking pot. But they sure will put the alcohol away and they don't see anything wrong with that. After all alcohol is not a drug in their eyes. Right?
Alcohol kills more people than pot. Have never heard of a person smoking only pot, killing anyone. Have any of you?
The article does not say that the driver of the car had drugs in their system.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#95 May 1, 2012
Big Deal wrote:
He had pot in his system. That was all. The other person had drugs in his system too. The way I took it he had more than one. I may have misunderstood it. But he was messed up more than Van. So, what if it had been alcohol instead of pot. To some in this town, nothing would have been released in the paper about their alcohol level.
If pot was all he was doing, then hel* he was doing better than the ones who look down on smoking pot. But they sure will put the alcohol away and they don't see anything wrong with that. After all alcohol is not a drug in their eyes. Right?
Alcohol kills more people than pot. Have never heard of a person smoking only pot, killing anyone. Have any of you?
There's two ways of looking at that. True, if I smoke a bowl and chill out in my recliner watching Spongebob, I won't die. But if I get in my car and decide to drive to White Castle, then yes it can kill me and someone else.
Big Deal

Harrodsburg, KY

#96 May 1, 2012
How about alcohol. If you drink a couple of beers or shots and drive would that kill you or someone else? Can you find me information on someone killing someone else with just pot in their system and nothing else? No mental problems or anything else wrong with them. Just pot in their system.
I will have to go back and reread the article. I thought it said the boy has other substances in his system. Sorry if I was wrong.
Big Deal

Harrodsburg, KY

#97 May 1, 2012
Sorry it said the other report of any other substances being in his system was not back yet at the state police lab.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#98 May 1, 2012
Big Deal wrote:
How about alcohol. If you drink a couple of beers or shots and drive would that kill you or someone else? Can you find me information on someone killing someone else with just pot in their system and nothing else? No mental problems or anything else wrong with them. Just pot in their system.
I will have to go back and reread the article. I thought it said the boy has other substances in his system. Sorry if I was wrong.
I don't understand your argument? Sure, you shouldn't drink and drive. You shouldn't smoke weed and drive. You shouldn't take a couple of Benedryl and drive. You shouldn't ingest any substance that impairs your judgement and drive a car.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/hea...

I've never understand the argument "what about alcohol?" Which, oddly, if the driver of the car was high when he killed that ephebophile Van Landrum, then there's one right there.
Lee

United States

#99 May 2, 2012
Marijuania can stay in your system up to 30 days. This being said Mr. Landrum may not have been "high" at the time of the accident. He may of smoked marijuana 15 days prior to accident, but it will remain in your system.
Big Deal

Harrodsburg, KY

#100 May 2, 2012
LONDON (AP)– People who use marijuana before driving are nearly twice as likely to cause a car crash as those not under the influence of alcohol or drugs, according to a Canadian analysis of previous studies.
Okay Digger read this real close. It states are nearly twice as likely. Now what about the alcohol. How did they state that. It said not under the influence of alcohol or drugs. So you really in my opinion proved nothing.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#101 May 2, 2012
Big Deal wrote:
LONDON (AP)– People who use marijuana before driving are nearly twice as likely to cause a car crash as those not under the influence of alcohol or drugs, according to a Canadian analysis of previous studies.
Okay Digger read this real close. It states are nearly twice as likely. Now what about the alcohol. How did they state that. It said not under the influence of alcohol or drugs. So you really in my opinion proved nothing.
Good God. What is your point? Are you saying it's safe to smoke weed and then drive?
Big Deal

Harrodsburg, KY

#102 May 2, 2012
I am saying is it safe to drink any form of alcohol and drive? Because this report does not seem to understand that alcohol is a drug. What about YOU. Do you think alcohol is a drug like pot or cocaine or meth?
Now find me a report of anything like this happening in Kentucky. Killed because drive of vechile had smoked pot 3 hrs. before he decided to drive.
Now if the driver of the car was high on drugs? IT could any drug not just pot. So again you prove nothing, but just stated your opinion.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#103 May 2, 2012
Big Deal wrote:
I am saying is it safe to drink any form of alcohol and drive? Because this report does not seem to understand that alcohol is a drug. What about YOU. Do you think alcohol is a drug like pot or cocaine or meth?
Now find me a report of anything like this happening in Kentucky. Killed because drive of vechile had smoked pot 3 hrs. before he decided to drive.
Now if the driver of the car was high on drugs? IT could any drug not just pot. So again you prove nothing, but just stated your opinion.
Can you not read? I have already answered your question last night.
Big Deal

Harrodsburg, KY

#104 May 2, 2012
I am saying if a person drinks 2 or 3 beers. He should not judge a person that smokes a joint. I do not care what a Canadian report says. Alcohol kills more people than smoking a joint does. I have not heard of anyone killing anyone driving around here because they had smoked only pot. Now drinking I have on a couple of shots and a couple of beers. Of course everyone that is drinking and gets pulled over by the police has had only a couple of drinks.
I am through with this topix. Because most everyone agrees with me, alcohol kills more people in car accidents that a person smoking only pot.
Only a person who drinks alcohol quite often would disagree.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#105 May 2, 2012
Big Deal wrote:
I am saying if a person drinks 2 or 3 beers. He should not judge a person that smokes a joint. I do not care what a Canadian report says. Alcohol kills more people than smoking a joint does. I have not heard of anyone killing anyone driving around here because they had smoked only pot. Now drinking I have on a couple of shots and a couple of beers. Of course everyone that is drinking and gets pulled over by the police has had only a couple of drinks.
I am through with this topix. Because most everyone agrees with me, alcohol kills more people in car accidents that a person smoking only pot.
Only a person who drinks alcohol quite often would disagree.
Could that be because more people drink alcohol than smoke weed???

BTW, if you can still competently operate your motor vehicle after smoking weed, you need to find a new dealer.
fyi

Richmond, KY

#106 May 2, 2012
Lee wrote:
Marijuania can stay in your system up to 30 days. This being said Mr. Landrum may not have been "high" at the time of the accident. He may of smoked marijuana 15 days prior to accident, but it will remain in your system.
The lab and courts are able to tell by the level in your system if you used pot recently. Drugs are drugs and it doesn't matter how you all try to spin it it was wrong
yvyv

United States

#107 May 2, 2012
fyi wrote:
<quoted text>The lab and courts are able to tell by the level in your system if you used pot recently. Drugs are drugs and it doesn't matter how you all try to spin it it was wrong
I dont believe there saying t was right to smoke pot, I believe there saying more people are killed by alchol than pot when driving under the influnce. I hate drugs and form alchol or pot but must say I tryed them both at a younger age when I tryed pot I could function and walk and talk but when I tryed Alchol I couldnt walk talk or function just stumble slobber and didnt knowhat I was doing not saying its right to do either but I see what there saying,
idiots

Harrodsburg, KY

#108 May 3, 2012
The reports showed marijuana was in his system, not that he was driving under the influence. So it is correct that he could haver smoked a week ago. The reports did not show that he was under the influence at the time of the accident!!!! They just threw that in there so everyone would know that it was in his system, it had nothing to dod with the cause of the accident. And the report said he had improper lighting not that he had no light at all. And I heard nothing about the other driver. What is the deal with that? Nothing about the speed the car was traveling, or what their toxicology reports showed. This report seemed a little on sided to me. But in the end the result is the same, Van is gone nothing is going to change that so why don't you assholes leave him alone!
idiots

Harrodsburg, KY

#109 May 3, 2012
Digger wrote:
<quoted text>
Could that be because more people drink alcohol than smoke weed???
BTW, if you can still competently operate your motor vehicle after smoking weed, you need to find a new dealer.
I would say just as many people smoke weed, other people just don't know about it. And BTW smoking weed isn't like tripping on acid or how you see people on movies acting, you can competently do anything you want. The only reason weed is not legal is because the government has not come up with a good way to tax it because people can cultivate on their own, give it a few years and everyone will have a prescription for it.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#110 May 3, 2012
idiots wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say just as many people smoke weed, other people just don't know about it. And BTW smoking weed isn't like tripping on acid or how you see people on movies acting, you can competently do anything you want. The only reason weed is not legal is because the government has not come up with a good way to tax it because people can cultivate on their own, give it a few years and everyone will have a prescription for it.
Are you suggesting that I can smoke a blunt and then drive my car just as well as I did before I smoked it? Is that what you're saying? Yes or no?
idiots

Harrodsburg, KY

#111 May 3, 2012
No, especially if u don't smoke it. And I am not saying you just smoke and jump in the car with your family and take a drive. But from my own experience smoking marijuana does not impair your ability to function like it is put off to. I am not trying to advertise or justify smoking pot but in this case I do not think it has anything to do with the accident.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#112 May 4, 2012
http://www.centralkynews.com/amnews/news/amn-...

HARRODSBURG — Using the Kentucky Open Records Act, The Advocate-Messenger has obtained a copy of the Harrodsburg Police Department’s report on the March 30 crash on U.S. 127 that claimed the life of John “Van” Landrum.

According to the Kentucky Uniform Police Traffic Collision Report, Lanah M. Will, 19, of Danville, was the passenger in the vehicle driven by William Phillips, 22, of Louisville, when it struck Landrum’s tractor from the rear as it tried to manuever around the farm vehicle, which was traveling south in the right-hand lane of the divided highway without its lights on when the crash occurred at about 9:15 p.m.

According to the uniform collision report obtained by the paper, Phillips’ 2012 Toyota Avalon sedan clipped the left rear wheel of Landrum’s 1998 John Deere and knocked it off the tractor. The tractor overturned on to its side and skidded into a guard rail, the report states, while Phillips’ car came to rest in the median. Phillips and Will suffered minor injuries in the crash.

In the box on the report for human factors that contributed to the crash, drug involvement and inattention are listed for Landrum, and it states he tested positive for THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.“Lighting defective” on the tractor is listed as a vehicular factor in the crash, according to the report.

No human or vehicular factors were detected with Phillips, the report states. A¿blood test on Phillips showed no alcohol in his system but results of a test for drugs are still pending, police said Thursday.
Digger

Lexington, KY

#113 May 4, 2012
I wonder what was so secretive about this? Phillips and Will? Forbidden love perhaps?

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