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WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18670 Nov 27, 2012
Simple Math wrote:
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Put everything into a safe fund that is paying what, three quarters of one percent, then pay a 15% income tax on what you withdraw.
See any thing wrong with that picture?
Refer to post above genius! LOL!
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18671 Nov 27, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
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Do you think it's fair that 49% of all citizens in this country pay nothing in federal taxes? Should someone that pays nothing in federal taxes get a tax return? Should people who are on welfare have to work to get their money? Should we be concerned about the $30 billion in revenue that taxing the rich will bring in or the hundreds of billions in wasteful spending we have? The simple fact that businesses will intentionally make less than $250,000 should tell you that people would rather see their business take in less than give Washington more. How about closing the loopholes that some don't like and leave rates the same?
your ignorance behooves me to tell you that the United States tax system is based on Marginal tax rates like i said in the paragraph you commented on... the number of pople paying no income tax isd more like 47 percent and that's based off 2011 results ... find a more current one then post it otherwise don't make misleading comments...people of lower income and larger families pay in income tax... federal and state.. just like everyone else only difference is that they receive all of their income bback at the end of the year..."the TPC explained that "a couple with two children earning less than $26,400 will pay no federal income tax this year because their $11,600 standard deduction and four exemptions of $3,700 each reduce their taxable income to zero."
The other half are zeroing out their federal income tax bill with other provisions, such as itemized deductions or the child tax credit. Some are seniors who are living off Social Security.
To be clear, the people in this group are still paying taxes. They are subject to payroll taxes for things like Medicare and Social Security, federal excise taxes on things like gasoline and state and local taxes including sales taxes on items they purchase.
Not everyone who pays no federal income tax is in the lower income brackets. A separate report released last spring by the Internal Revenue Service found more than 35,000 people who made more than $200,000 in 2009 also managed to zero out their tax bills. That report noted that it generally takes a number of different credits and deductions for wealthy people to not pay any federal income taxes."... and your 30 billion is more like 1.4 trillion in revenue over 4 years ... if you think loophole closure is off the table than you are even more incompetant than your statement about businesses creating less revenue... i garuntee you that loopholes and deductions will be closed more-so for the rich than for the pooor.. and like i said marginal tax rates is how our tax system works so go ahead and make your business do bad so you don't go over the 250,000 dollar mark ... only person you are hurting is yourself and your business and your employees... tax rates will stay the same for anyone making up to that amount of money and like i said before income over that amount may be subject to higher tax rates depending on what congress decides to do ...
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18672 Nov 27, 2012
liberalsareinsane wrote:
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It cracks me up, the liberal double speak. They call communists democrats, say Kenyans are Americans, say illegals are legal, and (when they do it) bald faced lying is called "embelished" of all things. Bunch of damned nuts is what they are.
what? you are taking the meaning out of context... i miss typed and said 40 instead of 25%... so quit taking sound bites like fox did with the president and start inputting your own personal decisions on the situation...looks like your keeping with the republican times and constantly shouting blasphamy i'm sure grover norquist would be happy to have you as an ally.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18673 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>your ignorance behooves me to tell you that the United States tax system is based on Marginal tax rates like i said in the paragraph you commented on... the number of pople paying no income tax isd more like 47 percent and that's based off 2011 results ... find a more current one then post it otherwise don't make misleading comments...people of lower income and larger families pay in income tax... federal and state.. just like everyone else only difference is that they receive all of their income bback at the end of the year..."the TPC explained that "a couple with two children earning less than $26,400 will pay no federal income tax this year because their $11,600 standard deduction and four exemptions of $3,700 each reduce their taxable income to zero."
The other half are zeroing out their federal income tax bill with other provisions, such as itemized deductions or the child tax credit. Some are seniors who are living off Social Security.
To be clear, the people in this group are still paying taxes. They are subject to payroll taxes for things like Medicare and Social Security, federal excise taxes on things like gasoline and state and local taxes including sales taxes on items they purchase.
Not everyone who pays no federal income tax is in the lower income brackets. A separate report released last spring by the Internal Revenue Service found more than 35,000 people who made more than $200,000 in 2009 also managed to zero out their tax bills. That report noted that it generally takes a number of different credits and deductions for wealthy people to not pay any federal income taxes."... and your 30 billion is more like 1.4 trillion in revenue over 4 years ... if you think loophole closure is off the table than you are even more incompetant than your statement about businesses creating less revenue... i garuntee you that loopholes and deductions will be closed more-so for the rich than for the pooor.. and like i said marginal tax rates is how our tax system works so go ahead and make your business do bad so you don't go over the 250,000 dollar mark ... only person you are hurting is yourself and your business and your employees... tax rates will stay the same for anyone making up to that amount of money and like i said before income over that amount may be subject to higher tax rates depending on what congress decides to do ...
So what you are saying is rich people pay more taxes than poor people. I agree.

I hope those Bush tax cuts expire on you folks! LOL!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18674 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>what? you are taking the meaning out of context... i miss typed and said 40 instead of 25%... so quit taking sound bites like fox did with the president and start inputting your own personal decisions on the situation...looks like your keeping with the republican times and constantly shouting blasphamy i'm sure grover norquist would be happy to have you as an ally.
You miss type a lot but only get it corrected when you are called on it! Interesting!
Reality Check

United States

#18675 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>your ignorance behooves me to tell you that the United States tax system is based on Marginal tax rates like i said in the paragraph you commented on... the number of pople paying no income tax isd more like 47 percent and that's based off 2011 results ... find a more current one then post it otherwise don't make misleading comments...people of lower income and larger families pay in income tax... federal and state.. just like everyone else only difference is that they receive all of their income bback at the end of the year..."the TPC explained that "a couple with two children earning less than $26,400 will pay no federal income tax this year because their $11,600 standard deduction and four exemptions of $3,700 each reduce their taxable income to zero."
The other half are zeroing out their federal income tax bill with other provisions, such as itemized deductions or the child tax credit. Some are seniors who are living off Social Security.
To be clear, the people in this group are still paying taxes. They are subject to payroll taxes for things like Medicare and Social Security, federal excise taxes on things like gasoline and state and local taxes including sales taxes on items they purchase.
Not everyone who pays no federal income tax is in the lower income brackets. A separate report released last spring by the Internal Revenue Service found more than 35,000 people who made more than $200,000 in 2009 also managed to zero out their tax bills. That report noted that it generally takes a number of different credits and deductions for wealthy people to not pay any federal income taxes."... and your 30 billion is more like 1.4 trillion in revenue over 4 years ... if you think loophole closure is off the table than you are even more incompetant than your statement about businesses creating less revenue... i garuntee you that loopholes and deductions will be closed more-so for the rich than for the pooor.. and like i said marginal tax rates is how our tax system works so go ahead and make your business do bad so you don't go over the 250,000 dollar mark ... only person you are hurting is yourself and your business and your employees... tax rates will stay the same for anyone making up to that amount of money and like i said before income over that amount may be subject to higher tax rates depending on what congress decides to do ...
I didn't say that the 49 million payed no tax, I said they paid no federal income tax. BTW 47 million isn't good either. It should be 7.5 million at most. 47 or 49 million is unsustainable. If you have taxes taken out of income and are then reimbursed for every penny you paid in then, in the end, you paid nothing. You can word it any way you want but the net gain to the government is $0. Please show me where the 1.4 trillion figure is. I was wrong in the $30 billion. The estimates I found are in the $70 billion range but still far short. It comes to 1/20 of what we need each year. Look at my post again. I said businesses (not my business) will make sure their income is below the $250K range. I would never do that. Simplify the tax code and we are not even having this conversation. 10-15% across the board with no deductions and everyone pays whether you have a job or are a life long entitlement recipient. Don't tax seniors above 65 at all. They have paid enough.
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18676 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>You miss type a lot but only get it corrected when you are called on it! Interesting!
so i have no time nor patience for ignorance like yours and your posts on here... you know absolutly nothing...what i said earlier about the taxes is that our system is ran on marginal tax rates.... and for people making up to 250,000 dollars a year will continue to be taxed at the same rate... that's iff republicans in the house vote on it... if not who cares i'd rather see tax rates go back to the clinton years.. we actually had growth under him and have had no growth under bush and minimal growth under obama and the only thing holding back the obama administration are these taxes... and republicans... who would rather talk about bengahzi, repealing obamacare, take away womens rights, make it harder to vote, and make it harder for people to migrate to this country... they are not concerened about the real issues at hand and that is jobs... there is a jobs bill sitting in the house already passed by the senate in a bipartisan agreement.. but house republicans would rather do anything but vote on it... and i was over exagerating the percentage.. which i corrected .. unlike all the lies and gerrymandering tossed out on issues like i stated above in which republicans would rather try and show how bad obama is doing, which he is not, so they can gain some political credibility which they lost and if they don't change their ways will continue to lose... republicans are just mad and i think a little enveious that this president has made no credibale mistakes like all the other presidents in his terms as president.. and even more mad that it is a black guy doing great things.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18677 Nov 27, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
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I didn't say that the 49 million payed no tax, I said they paid no federal income tax. BTW 47 million isn't good either. It should be 7.5 million at most. 47 or 49 million is unsustainable. If you have taxes taken out of income and are then reimbursed for every penny you paid in then, in the end, you paid nothing. You can word it any way you want but the net gain to the government is $0. Please show me where the 1.4 trillion figure is. I was wrong in the $30 billion. The estimates I found are in the $70 billion range but still far short. It comes to 1/20 of what we need each year. Look at my post again. I said businesses (not my business) will make sure their income is below the $250K range. I would never do that. Simplify the tax code and we are not even having this conversation. 10-15% across the board with no deductions and everyone pays whether you have a job or are a life long entitlement recipient. Don't tax seniors above 65 at all. They have paid enough.
How do you figure Seniors above 65 paid enough? I know I have paid more than many Seniors. Tax everybody and be fair about it!
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18678 Nov 27, 2012
Reality Check wrote:
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I didn't say that the 49 million payed no tax, I said they paid no federal income tax. BTW 47 million isn't good either. It should be 7.5 million at most. 47 or 49 million is unsustainable. If you have taxes taken out of income and are then reimbursed for every penny you paid in then, in the end, you paid nothing. You can word it any way you want but the net gain to the government is $0. Please show me where the 1.4 trillion figure is. I was wrong in the $30 billion. The estimates I found are in the $70 billion range but still far short. It comes to 1/20 of what we need each year. Look at my post again. I said businesses (not my business) will make sure their income is below the $250K range. I would never do that. Simplify the tax code and we are not even having this conversation. 10-15% across the board with no deductions and everyone pays whether you have a job or are a life long entitlement recipient. Don't tax seniors above 65 at all. They have paid enough.
no you are right you said 49 percent instead of 47 percent.. in all reality around 150 million people.... not even close to the 47 or 49 million... percents and numbers must have gotten mixed up and i will not hold you liable for that because i know where you are comming from...i agree with all the tax exemptions for the lower and middle income tax brackets... maybe you should check those out because you may fall into some of those tax breaks... the tax code is simple it's just most people just do not take the time to understand how our marginal tax rates work in this country ... http://taxes.about.com/od/Federal-Income-Taxe... ... this post should clarrify things... and actually instead of 1.4 trillion it's more like 4 trillion over 10 years.. and his tax plan and these numbers do not come strictly from taxing the rich... and can be found online i posted the marginal tax rates you can look up the tax numbers on your own .. i beleive in you... and it does not matter like i said about what businesses do .. because ... our US tax code is ran on marginal tax rates so ... like i said.. businesses making up to 250,000 dollars wil be taxed at the same rate as today.. only if house republicans sign the bill that has probably already collected dust on there desks...and it is currently up to republicans and democrats in the house and senate to determine what the tax rates will be for people making over 250,000.. if they do not act the tax cuts will expire and we will just go back to the same tax rates that were enacted when clinton was in office... so with that being said... it would be alot easier if republicans would just sign the bill on incomes 250,000 dollars or less so at least lower incomes of that amount will not have to worry about taxes going up ... and seniors above 65 do not pay any income taxes... when's the last time your grandma filed her taxes?... but property tax for seniors i believe should be repreved for the remainder of their life but ... that is only up to the states that have property tax not up to the federal government.
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18679 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>How do you figure Seniors above 65 paid enough? I know I have paid more than many Seniors. Tax everybody and be fair about it!
get real you crazy fool .. you be on medicare and medicaid .. and recieving social security of 800 a month or on disablity for the same amount and pay in 15% of that to state and federal income taxes... get real it's hard enough to live on that amount alone without ignorance like yours trying to take away what people have worked their whole life for.
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18680 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I have no qualms with how the Stock Market has performed under Obama. Tell me why Obama didn't run on that Stock Market record? I have moved ALL of my money over into what is called the "G" Fund. Look that one up genius. It's a government secure fund. No risk, little reward but when you have a substantial amount of money all I can do is make more of it! I made big bucks in International Funds when Bush was in office. Look up those funds why you are at it. 20% won't hurt me where I am at. My annuities will keep rolling in with little change unless I change them! It's you poor liberals struggling on fixed income, living pay check to pay check that will take the big hit. Oh well, you voted for it now you got to live with it. I am still curious as to why Obama didn't run on that Stock Market record. Maybe it didn't fit in with his class warfare! I hope these Bush tax cuts expire on you guys also! LOL!
what a joke...lol... you run on not wanting government in your life .. yet as soon as governement funding comes up republicans are all for it ... same with obamacare... and with your G fund you got going on there .. i hope they raise tax rates too .. not gonna hurt me at all .... raise income rates for people above 250,000 to a certain percent yet still under 40 for the highest income...close all loopholes and deductions for these brackets... cut corporate tax rates to 28 percent.. and give tax incentives for bringing companies home instead of sending them over seas.. which in all reality is pretty close to what obama wants to do ... obama did not run on the stock market record because all initial investments and spending and plans made by the adminstration and congress ultimatley led to mild recovery of the stock market so why not run on the plans that got the stock market in a better situation rather than just run on how well the stock market is doing? everything makes sense if you see the other person's point of view only problem in the republican world is they don't have a different point of view... it's all the same point of view which just happens to be grover norquist point of view and a few of his rich buddies... several republicans signed a pledge not to raise taxes but if these boneheads do nothing then in a sense they are still breaking the pledge because taxes will go up no matter what...
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18681 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text> so i have no time nor patience for ignorance like yours and your posts on here... you know absolutly nothing...what i said earlier about the taxes is that our system is ran on marginal tax rates.... and for people making up to 250,000 dollars a year will continue to be taxed at the same rate... that's iff republicans in the house vote on it... if not who cares i'd rather see tax rates go back to the clinton years.. we actually had growth under him and have had no growth under bush and minimal growth under obama and the only thing holding back the obama administration are these taxes... and republicans... who would rather talk about bengahzi, repealing obamacare, take away womens rights, make it harder to vote, and make it harder for people to migrate to this country... they are not concerened about the real issues at hand and that is jobs... there is a jobs bill sitting in the house already passed by the senate in a bipartisan agreement.. but house republicans would rather do anything but vote on it... and i was over exagerating the percentage.. which i corrected .. unlike all the lies and gerrymandering tossed out on issues like i stated above in which republicans would rather try and show how bad obama is doing, which he is not, so they can gain some political credibility which they lost and if they don't change their ways will continue to lose... republicans are just mad and i think a little enveious that this president has made no credibale mistakes like all the other presidents in his terms as president.. and even more mad that it is a black guy doing great things.
Where was that great jobs bill when Obama had the House and the Senate during his first two years? He could have had anything he wanted! Instead he crammed big tax health care down our throats! I honestly hope those Bush tax cuts expire! LOL! You people are about to get everything you deserve!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18682 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>get real you crazy fool .. you be on medicare and medicaid .. and recieving social security of 800 a month or on disablity for the same amount and pay in 15% of that to state and federal income taxes... get real it's hard enough to live on that amount alone without ignorance like yours trying to take away what people have worked their whole life for.
Maybe lazy people like you should have worked harder and planned for your future better. I know you libs want somebody else to take care of you from cradle to grave but the rest of us are tired of it. Get a job!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18683 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text>what a joke...lol... you run on not wanting government in your life .. yet as soon as governement funding comes up republicans are all for it ... same with obamacare... and with your G fund you got going on there .. i hope they raise tax rates too .. not gonna hurt me at all .... raise income rates for people above 250,000 to a certain percent yet still under 40 for the highest income...close all loopholes and deductions for these brackets... cut corporate tax rates to 28 percent.. and give tax incentives for bringing companies home instead of sending them over seas.. which in all reality is pretty close to what obama wants to do ... obama did not run on the stock market record because all initial investments and spending and plans made by the adminstration and congress ultimatley led to mild recovery of the stock market so why not run on the plans that got the stock market in a better situation rather than just run on how well the stock market is doing? everything makes sense if you see the other person's point of view only problem in the republican world is they don't have a different point of view... it's all the same point of view which just happens to be grover norquist point of view and a few of his rich buddies... several republicans signed a pledge not to raise taxes but if these boneheads do nothing then in a sense they are still breaking the pledge because taxes will go up no matter what...
LOL! I retired from the government and still have my money tied up in their funds! It was big government I retired from, you know the type you like, I became rich thanks to the tax payers and my knowledge of investing money! Income tax rates should be raised for EVERYBODY, lets get real here if we are going to lower the defecit everybody should have to pitch in. Do not extend the Bush tax cuts and tax everybody at 49%! Lets get this show on the road. Don't be such a hypocrite all of your life. Do YOUR share for the country for a change!
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18684 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Where was that great jobs bill when Obama had the House and the Senate during his first two years? He could have had anything he wanted! Instead he crammed big tax health care down our throats! I honestly hope those Bush tax cuts expire! LOL! You people are about to get everything you deserve!
who cares what he could have done he did what he needed to do at the time to stop the bleeding and further economic collapse...and second did the right thing by passing a substantial healthcare bill that was long overdue in this country... i mean being one of the last leading nations in the world to offer it's citizens affordable healthcare is crazy.. should not have taken this long and cudos for him pushing it through..... but the real issue is jobs ..and that jobs bill is still sitting on house republicans desks along with the tax breaks collecting dust.. that's where the bills have gone straight to republican treason and grid lock.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#18685 Nov 27, 2012
dont know nothin wrote:
<quoted text> who cares what he could have done he did what he needed to do at the time to stop the bleeding and further economic collapse...and second did the right thing by passing a substantial healthcare bill that was long overdue in this country... i mean being one of the last leading nations in the world to offer it's citizens affordable healthcare is crazy.. should not have taken this long and cudos for him pushing it through..... but the real issue is jobs ..and that jobs bill is still sitting on house republicans desks along with the tax breaks collecting dust.. that's where the bills have gone straight to republican treason and grid lock.
Why don't your hero just pass a jobs bill by Executive Order? He's such a great golfer, I mean with only 25 million people unemployed and 50 million people on welfare. I can't wait for all the losers to start whining when their health care increases. This is going to be so much fun! LOL! I am still waiting on those shovel ready jobs! LOL!
Simple Math

Calico Rock, AR

#18686 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I have
Tell me why Obama didn't run on that Stock Market record? I have moved ALL of my money over into what is called the "G" Fund. Look that one up genius. It's a government secure fund. No risk, little reward but when you have a substantial amount of money all I can do is make more of it! I made big bucks in International Funds when Bush was in office. Look up those funds why you are at it. 20% won't hurt me where I am at. My annuities will keep rolling in with little change unless I change them! It's you poor liberals struggling on fixed income, living pay check to pay check that will take the big hit. Oh well, you voted for it now you got to live with it. I am still curious as to why Obama didn't run on that Stock Market record. Maybe it didn't fit in with his class warfare! I hope these Bush tax cuts expire on you guys also! LOL!
OMG, this has to be one of your most flagrant displays of ignorance to date;


"no qualms with how the Stock Market has performed under Obama."

If that is so, why did you move your fortune ?
,,,,,,,,,,


" I am still curious as to why Obama didn't run on that Stock Market record."


It was Main Street who put President Obama BACK in office not Wall-Street, they know how their 401ks' have grown over the last four years, and what the Stock Maret means to the retirement fund that will issue company retirement checks.
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18687 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! I retired from the government and still have my money tied up in their funds! It was big government I retired from, you know the type you like, I became rich thanks to the tax payers and my knowledge of investing money! Income tax rates should be raised for EVERYBODY, lets get real here if we are going to lower the defecit everybody should have to pitch in. Do not extend the Bush tax cuts and tax everybody at 49%! Lets get this show on the road. Don't be such a hypocrite all of your life. Do YOUR share for the country for a change!
oh yah you worked for the government? what position did you hold?.. that's what i thought... so you became rich by taking taxpayer dollars and lobbiest money then taking your knowledge from interest grooups and insider trading to better yourself?.. yah i'd like to know your name there bud because that sounds a little sketchy to me .. but i bet you don't post it ... or tell what position you held in the "government"... because your a lieing hypocrytical thief... sounds like someone needs to put on their big boy panties because as much as you would love to say everyone who makes less than half a million dollars or even 250,000 is drawing a check and living off the government.... then your just as crazy as that late night limbaugh you've been listening too.. get real with your allegations... you have posted nothing on here except for how bad obama is with no substantial evidence that he has did a bad job in anyway....and how successful you are and how much money you make with investments ... when in all reality you probably have nothing... and if you do have a substantial amount of money .. why are you on here wasting time?... why not be out living it up with that money... instead of throwing imaginary numbers in peoples faces that have worked long and hard all their lives.. unlke people like you who said it best ... became rich off the backs of ordinary tax payers... get real

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#18688 Nov 27, 2012
11/27/2012, yes I did vote, thanks for asking.
dont know nothin

Benton City, WA

#18689 Nov 27, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't your hero just pass a jobs bill by Executive Order? He's such a great golfer, I mean with only 25 million people unemployed and 50 million people on welfare. I can't wait for all the losers to start whining when their health care increases. This is going to be so much fun! LOL! I am still waiting on those shovel ready jobs! LOL!
why should he have to pass executive orders to do what a majority of the United States wants to do ?... that goes against the general logic of the constitution ... remember you were in the government getting rich off taxpayer money you should know this... then guess what the republicans will give him hell about passing an executive order... republicans in the house and some in the senate have did nothing but commet treason by providing years of government gridlock that has hindered the growth of this country

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