District 8 candidate opposes Lumbee recognition

Mar 2, 2012 Full story: The Laurinburg Exchange Online 16

The Lumbee Tribe will lose a supporter of federal recognition if Vernon Robinson, a candidate for the GOP nomination for the District 8 congressional seat, is elected to Congress.

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SILVERMAN

Houston, TX

#1 Mar 19, 2012
Even within Robeson County, a group of Tuscarora Indians say the Lumbee have stolen their heritage to argue for federal recognition. The Tuscarora say the Lumbee aren't Indians at all, but rather a group of mixed-race residents with no significant history.

Tuscarora Chairwoman Katherine Magnotta said she expected the House outcome, but she also noted that those opposed made good arguments against the Lumbee.

"I believe it will be turned down in the Senate," Magnotta said. "I think today just showed there's strong arguments and a lot of unanswered questions."
STEVED

Houston, TX

#2 Mar 19, 2012
THERE ACTUALLY WERE 4 ATTEMPTS BY THE lumbee croatan PUT FORTH BILLS BEFORE THE US CONGRESS TO BECOME CHEROKEE INDIANS ALL 4 BIILS FAILED!! ATTEMPT AT IDENTITY THEFT

1. 1910 (January 24). Introduction of a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives to change the tribe's name from Croatan to Cherokee. The bill did not pass.[entry 1320]

2. 1913 (July 10). Introduction of a bill in the U.S. Senate to change the tribe's name from Indians of Robeson County to Cherokee Indians of Robeson County. The bill did not pass.[entry 1329]

3. 1924 (March 20). Introduction of a bill in the U.S. House to change the tribal name to Cherokee. The bill did not pass.[entry 1339]

4. 1932 (May 9). A bill was introduced in the U.S. Senate to recognize and enroll the tribe as Cherokee Indians. The bill did not pass.[entry 1345]

4 ATTEMPTS AT TRIBAL IDENTITY THEFT BY THE LUMBEE CROATAN COALITION NO WONDER LUMBEE ARE UNDER SUSPICION.

Since: Mar 12

Chicago, IL

#3 Mar 19, 2012
my friend's step-sister makes $82 hourly on the internet. She has been out of work for five months but last month her check was $12747 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read more here : http://1st.ly/abu56
AnOut of state Lum

San Antonio, TX

#4 Apr 3, 2012
Elinor31314682 wrote:
my friend's step-sister makes $82 hourly on the internet. She has been out of work for five months but last month her check was $12747 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read more here : http://1st.ly/abu56
Wusup Yall, I bees a Lumpy too and wanna know if we can become a new kinta Injun now because our beel for to become real Injans has failed and i really wanta bee an Injun now cause des got dem Casinos and free stuff,i cant speak no Injun but im pretty good at a fake powwau and i think wees done pretended to bees every tribe in da state of North and South Caroliney already so we got dem all covered now!!!.we used to be black but to be Injun is better, aint it yall and its funner!.Some day we will get to bees reel Injuns like pinnochio became a reel wooden boy. all we gotta do is change de reel history and stuff.I think we should change De Riber name from Lumber because we used up all de wood now and call it De Lumpee Riber.I vote recognize my PeePs now and lets get dat Casino rollin out,Holla back!
RealRight

Nashville, TN

#5 Apr 5, 2012
Well you rape, steal, condemn the culture, bring diseases not known to the people, lie to gain control, enslave these people and black people...state that in the early 1700's any native who excepts christ and speaks fluent english can be free....then you once again you slander there descendants, good job white folks its your world now...
raymond watson

Hertford, NC

#6 Apr 23, 2012
how can mulattos be indians?
raymond watson

Hertford, NC

#7 Apr 23, 2012
i have travel thru robeson county about ten thousand times and i have never seen any true blooded indian in that area. i have seen a lot of people who are mulattos. that is a mixture of black and white calling themselves something else.and they will kill you in a heart beat with a knife or gun. they even kill each oter with knives and guns.
raymond watson

Edenton, NC

#8 Apr 23, 2012
the late senator jessie helms was born and bred with these people his parents were share croppers and he left word in dc that there is no such thing as a lumbee indian that's why they will never get fed reg. they are already free loading off the tax payers as it is and they want more for doing nothing.
Wow

Lumberton, NC

#9 Jul 3, 2012
I'm Lumbee and I'm not free loading off the taxpayers. Therefore you can't generalize and say that all Lumbee's do. I served my Country for 4 years in the Military and now work and pay taxes just as any other US citizen.
True Native LumbeeCheraw

Fayetteville, NC

#10 Aug 30, 2012
Steve, Ray, Britt all post Cherokee propaganda against the Lumbee to collect some of that 600,000 the Cherokee spent last year to fight the Lumbee. LOL!!! Sad people......:(
C Oxendine

Winston Salem, NC

#11 Sep 3, 2012
Wow! I just found a rare letter about this topic. People would kill me for posting this. I can tell you that the racism against Blacks is two fold compared to Whites within the Lumbee. I once heard an "Elder" at a Lumbee Dance held on a UNC campus tell a Black guy that the Lumbee have absolutely nothing to do with the Black race. Outright racism but true. I was also shocked to learn that in Fla. my own surname is related to many AAs. Here is the letter that concerns many other groups like the Lumbee. Locklear was a big surprise.
C Oxendine

Winston Salem, NC

#12 Sep 3, 2012
January 1943

Local Registrars, Physicians, Health
Officers, Nurses, School Superintendents,
and Clerks of the Courts

Dear Co-workers:

Our December 1942 letter to local registrars, also mailed to the clerks,
set forth the determined effort to escape from the negro race of groups of "free
issues," or descendants of the "free mulattoes" of early days, so listed prior to
1865 in the United States census and various types of State records, as distin-
guished from slave negroes.

Now that these people are playing up the advantages gained by being
permitted to give "Indian" as the race of the child's parents on birth certifi-
cates, we see the great mistake made in not stopping earlier the organized pro-
pagation of this racial falsehood. They have been using the advantage thus gained
as an aid to intermarriage into the white race and to attend white schools, and
now for some time they have been refusing to register with war draft boards as
negroes, as required by the boards which are faithfully performing their duties.
Three of these negroes from Caroline County were sentenced to prison on January 12
in the United States Court at Richmond for refusing to obey the draft law unless
permitted to classify themselves as "Indian."

Some of these mongrels, finding that they have been able to sneak in
their birth certificates unchallenged as Indians are now making a rush to register
as white. Upon investigation we find that a few local registrars have been per-
mitting such certificates to pass through their hands unquestioned and without
warning our office of the fraud. Those attempting this fraud should be warned
that they are liable to a penalty of one year in the penitentiary (Section 5099a
of the Code). Several clerks have likewise been actually granting them licenses
to marry whites, or at least to marry amongst themselves as Indian or white. The
danger of this error always confronts the clerk who does not inquire carefully as
to the residence of the woman when he does not have positive information. The
law is explicit that the license be issued by the clerk of the county or city in
which the woman resides.

To aid all of you in determining just which are the mixed families, we
have made a list of their surnames by counties and cities, as complete as possible
at this time. This list should be preserved by all, even by those in counties and
cities not included, as these people are moving around over the State and changing
race at the new place. A family has just been investigated which was always
recorded as negro around Glade Springs, Washington County, but which changed to
white and married as such in Roanoke County. This is going on constantly and can
be prevented only by care on the part of local registrars, clerks, doctors, health
workers, and school authorities.

Please report all known or suspicious cases to the Bureau of Vital
Statistics, giving names, ages, parents, and as much other information as possible.
All certificates of these people showing "Indian" or "white" are now being rejected
and returned to the physician or midwife, but local registrars hereafter must not
permit them to pass their hands uncorrected or unchallenged and without a note of
warning to us. One hundred and fifty thousand other mulattoes in Virginia are
watching eagerly the attempt of their pseudo-Indian brethren, ready to follow in
a rush when the first have made a break in the dike.

Very truly yours,

W. A. Plecker, M.D.
State Registrar of Vital Statistics
C Oxendine

Winston Salem, NC

#14 Sep 3, 2012
For Example: This party of Saponia ( Monasukapanough) Indians left that county and some of these may have been the same group that formed the settlement near Hillsborough, North Carolina in 1750. It appears from Granville and Orange County tax records that a John Collins arrived in the area about this time. John Collins lived on the Flat River for about 17 years then moved to the New River circa 1767. Tax records from Grayson County, Virginia reveals that Lewis and James Collins were likely sons of John Collins. "James Collins, John Bolin, and Mike Bolin Indians from Blackwater, Newman Ridge, were named by Sneedville attorney Lewis M. Jarvis in 1903, as quite full blooded who fought in the War of 1812-1814". 5 Another Indian family Moses and Mary, Ridley, Riddle are on these same Granville and Orange County, North Carolina tax lists, identified as mulattoes. In Orange County Moses was closely associated with Charles Gibson, Thomas Gibson Sr & Jr, Thomas Collins, Joseph Collins, William Bolin, and John Brown. Moses later moved to Pittsylvania County, Virginia where he is recorded on a 1767 Pittslyvania County Tax List as "an Indian." 6. Moses and Mary were the parents of a William and John Riddle (alias Ridley) who filed a Revolutionary War pension application his Randall moved to Hawkins County, Tennessee. Several Collins, Bolling and other related Melungeon names still live in this area today, now Person County, North Carolina.

Their migration journey began in the 1740's and ended on Newman Ridge about 1790. I can only document one person who lived to make this complete journey. He was Charles Gibson. Charles was the oldest living Melungeon on Newman Ridge when he filed his Revolutionary War Pension Application in 1839 stating that he was born in Louisa County, Virginia. He enlisted near Salisbury, North Carolina. Benjamin Collins, Jonathan Gibson and Jordan Gibson testified that Charles Gibson was reputed to be a Revolutionary War Soldier in their neighborhood. Charles Gibson was the son of Thomas Sr. and Mary Gibson. They sold their land on the Pamunkey River in 1749 to Thomas Mooreman. This land was located on the south side of the Pamunkey River adjoining Gilbert Gibson’s land. Gilbert was the father of Gedion, Jordan, and George Gibson.[Louisa County, Va., deeds and wills]
kowi

Cibolo, TX

#15 Jan 18, 2013
the origins of the identity theft among the lumbee

PETITION OF CROATAN INDIANS.. To the Congress of the United States,December 1887. For recognition as "Croatan Indians"

"The undersigned, your petitioners,a part of the Croatan Indians..Swear Descent from the Lost Colony of Roanoke" Swear Descent from the Lost Colony of Roanoke"

signed by James Oxendine, Ashbury Oxendine, Zackriors Oxendine, J.J. Oxendine, Billy Locklear, Malakiah Locklear, Preston Locklear, John Ballard, Crolly Locklear, G.W. Locklear, Patrick Locklear, Luther Deas, Marcus Dial, Joseph Loclear, Alex Locklear, Solomon Oxendine, A.J. Lowry, John A. Locklear, Silas Deas, James Lowry, Olline Oxendine, George Brayboy, William Sampson, Steven Carter, Peter Dial, Willy Jacobs, Quinn Gordan, Murdock Chavis."

sign

-- The Lost Colony of Roanoke

Wow,wheres the Saura claim here?? they are not cherokee either ,another lie
Wendy Owens

Jacksonville, FL

#16 Jan 30, 2013
STEVED wrote:
THERE ACTUALLY WERE 4 ATTEMPTS BY THE lumbee croatan PUT FORTH BILLS BEFORE THE US CONGRESS TO BECOME CHEROKEE INDIANS ALL 4 BIILS FAILED!! ATTEMPT AT IDENTITY THEFT
1. 1910 (January 24). Introduction of a bill in the U.S. House of Representatives to change the tribe's name from Croatan to Cherokee. The bill did not pass.[entry 1320]
2. 1913 (July 10). Introduction of a bill in the U.S. Senate to change the tribe's name from Indians of Robeson County to Cherokee Indians of Robeson County. The bill did not pass.[entry 1329]
3. 1924 (March 20). Introduction of a bill in the U.S. House to change the tribal name to Cherokee. The bill did not pass.[entry 1339]
4. 1932 (May 9). A bill was introduced in the U.S. Senate to recognize and enroll the tribe as Cherokee Indians. The bill did not pass.[entry 1345]
4 ATTEMPTS AT TRIBAL IDENTITY THEFT BY THE LUMBEE CROATAN COALITION NO WONDER LUMBEE ARE UNDER SUSPICION.
Funny, My father was from your area. he was ashamed of the heritage that he was always told by my grandmother that he was native american, and she looked as much like a native american as i've ever seen.'this was in the 60's, and many who know their history, who sometimes like to deny others of a heritage. There were so many tribes in that area for eons, only to be killed off, well, we know the story, however, with todays technology, has not one single person for or against thought of a DNA test??!! Geeezz. This sounds more to me like it smacks of a little prejudice, ok, ALOT!! Then settle it once and for all. Besides just think if it was your tribe that had been lost. Id like to know who i am....
uyukdv

Cibolo, TX

#17 Jan 30, 2013
RR Wright says,

it would be politically incorrect to suggest that most of the psuedo-remnants of tribes are engaging in opprotunistic–sometimes predatory–

behavior,

knowing that most people are afraid to call them out !



These slick-willy “Indians” need to get over themselves and find another way to advance, rather than hi-jacking land and building casinos which prey on vulnerable idiots and which create only low-paying, dead-end jobs.

“Invention, passes over recovered history and resorts to the “embellishment” of the past,” which “influences inscriptions and chronicles, monographs and textbooks,

and all the other media used to project an image and present a case” Invention the mother of all False histories…existance of Lumbee heritage the Big long held Lie

Historically there was never a Lumbee tribe ..or Croatan or Cherokee of Robeson County,

Does a historical “invention” contrast with historical fact?

media used to project an image and present a case!

after a while the inventors or those whom had it passed down to them …themselves cannot separate Lies from the truth or maybe they are ashamed to do so after holding a claim so long..

we the public have caught on to this long held Lie ,computer links genealogies and DNA dont lie..none of which lumbee have as Indians.

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