Paul Harvey/Johnny Carson never said it!

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The Facts

Dallas, TX

#1 Jun 16, 2012
The famous quote: "If you want to get away with murder, do it in Roane County" is an urban legend.

It was either said by Paul Harvey or Johnny Carson...it changes by person! LOL

http://mythandurban101.blogspot.com/

Even RC is listed on this page! LOL! Fools
LOL yourself

United States

#2 Jun 16, 2012
The Facts wrote:
The famous quote: "If you want to get away with murder, do it in Roane County" is an urban legend.
It was either said by Paul Harvey or Johnny Carson...it changes by person! LOL
http://mythandurban101.blogspot.com/
Even RC is listed on this page! LOL! Fools
Maybe you could spend some of "that life" you have solving a few cold cases instead of wasting your time on stupid urban legends. Gotta wonder what motivates you, and why you are so defensive about unsolved murders in Roane County, TN. One can' argue the fact that there are sure a lot of strange deaths in Roane and it doesn't take an urban legend to prove that point. Just read the local newspapers.

LOL to yourself. Murder is a serious crime, and your talking about urban legends? Who gives a "blank" what Johnny Carson said. In RC, people care about loved ones that are dead and people getting by with their involvement in it because they are above the law. Does that bother you, fool?
The Facts

United States

#3 Jun 16, 2012
LOL yourself wrote:
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Maybe you could spend some of "that life" you have solving a few cold cases instead of wasting your time on stupid urban legends. Gotta wonder what motivates you, and why you are so defensive about unsolved murders in Roane County, TN. One can' argue the fact that there are sure a lot of strange deaths in Roane and it doesn't take an urban legend to prove that point. Just read the local newspapers.
LOL to yourself. Murder is a serious crime, and your talking about urban legends? Who gives a "blank" what Johnny Carson said. In RC, people care about loved ones that are dead and people getting by with their involvement in it because they are above the law. Does that bother you, fool?
So tell us, are you to tell the same statement to anyone and everyone who devotes their time doing other things instead of "solving murders" in RC? Didn't think so. LOL...look at the facts before you spew nonsense. Defensive? Yes, that's why I'm laughing and posting facts. Brilliant. You showed me. LMAO
Fact

Fort Campbell, TN

#4 Jun 16, 2012
If I knew it was going to be talked about 20 some odd years later I would of recorded the episode of Johnny Carson when he did say "if you want to get away with murder go to Roane County Tn. I lived in California at the time, and my husband is from here, and I was shocked, said I would never move there, well here I am and love it.
The Facts

United States

#5 Jun 16, 2012
Fact wrote:
If I knew it was going to be talked about 20 some odd years later I would of recorded the episode of Johnny Carson when he did say "if you want to get away with murder go to Roane County Tn. I lived in California at the time, and my husband is from here, and I was shocked, said I would never move there, well here I am and love it.
Apparently you didn't view the link.

All transcripts were saved. Sorry. It wasn't said.
LOL yourself

United States

#6 Jun 16, 2012
The Facts wrote:
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So tell us, are you to tell the same statement to anyone and everyone who devotes their time doing other things instead of "solving murders" in RC? Didn't think so. LOL...look at the facts before you spew nonsense. Defensive? Yes, that's why I'm laughing and posting facts. Brilliant. You showed me. LMAO
Your laughing and posting facts? HA HA. Me too!

Hey, don't you have any friends to go see or some volunteer work you can do that might actually help someone? How about going to a senior citizen home and playing some checkers with those who could tell you that time is a commodity. How much time did you spend on that nonsense about Johnny Carson and Phil Harvey?

Since your post had to do with "murder", that is the reason why I suggested you spend your time solving one. Do I tell everyone that? No, because not everyone is obsessing on what some talk show hosts said or didn't say about murder in Roane County a quarter of a century ago. I think spending time trying to solve a murder would be far more impressive than where you seem to spend your time. But it's a free county so have a flaming good time doing whatever it is you are doing on here.

But, if you don't want any responses to your so-called fact sheet that you started this "discussion" thread with, than why put it up on topix.com ? There is always someone that is going to disagree with people on discussion threads. So if your ego can't take it, then don't start discussion threads. Aren't topics on discussion threads up for discussion?

Yeh, your real brillant! LOL
The Facts

United States

#7 Jun 17, 2012
LOL yourself wrote:
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Your laughing and posting facts? HA HA. Me too!
Hey, don't you have any friends to go see or some volunteer work you can do that might actually help someone? How about going to a senior citizen home and playing some checkers with those who could tell you that time is a commodity. How much time did you spend on that nonsense about Johnny Carson and Phil Harvey?
Since your post had to do with "murder", that is the reason why I suggested you spend your time solving one. Do I tell everyone that? No, because not everyone is obsessing on what some talk show hosts said or didn't say about murder in Roane County a quarter of a century ago. I think spending time trying to solve a murder would be far more impressive than where you seem to spend your time. But it's a free county so have a flaming good time doing whatever it is you are doing on here.
But, if you don't want any responses to your so-called fact sheet that you started this "discussion" thread with, than why put it up on topix.com ? There is always someone that is going to disagree with people on discussion threads. So if your ego can't take it, then don't start discussion threads. Aren't topics on discussion threads up for discussion?
Yeh, your real brillant! LOL
I didn't think so.

This is a public forum board, I'll post freely as I wish. Sorry that you don't like it, but you don't have to read it.

Sadly, you're not on here attacking those who are trash talking and gossiping... hmm why is that?
Fact

Fort Campbell, TN

#8 Jun 17, 2012
The Facts wrote:
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Apparently you didn't view the link.
All transcripts were saved. Sorry. It wasn't said.
Ok let me correct myself, I heard it myself on The tonight show with Johnny Carson he quoted someone else on what was said, but he did say it. and like I said in my post, if I knew it was going to be such a big deal I would of recorded it.
The Facts

United States

#9 Jun 17, 2012
Fact wrote:
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Ok let me correct myself, I heard it myself on The tonight show with Johnny Carson he quoted someone else on what was said, but he did say it. and like I said in my post, if I knew it was going to be such a big deal I would of recorded it.
Apparently you didn't view the link. All transcripts were saved. Sorry. It wasn't said.

Head on over to the CrossvilleTopix, or the Madisonvill Ky Topix and those people heard it from their own two ears, but from Paul Harvey!!! LMAO!!
Just saying

Walnut, CA

#10 Jun 17, 2012
LOL yourself wrote:
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Maybe you could spend some of "that life" you have solving a few cold cases instead of wasting your time on stupid urban legends. Gotta wonder what motivates you, and why you are so defensive about unsolved murders in Roane County, TN. One can' argue the fact that there are sure a lot of strange deaths in Roane and it doesn't take an urban legend to prove that point. Just read the local newspapers.
LOL to yourself. Murder is a serious crime, and your talking about urban legends? Who gives a "blank" what Johnny Carson said. In RC, people care about loved ones that are dead and people getting by with their involvement in it because they are above the law. Does that bother you, fool?
1. This is a public forum, anyone can post whatever they choose, whether you like it or not. While you can comment just as freely, don't be surprised knowing that your opinion doesn't matter; therefore, don't flatter yourself by thinking it does.

2. In the past 32 years, there have only been 4 unsolved murders in Roane County. There isn't any arguing this point. People tend to be ignorant and believe suspicious, or "strange" deaths, because it tickles our imagination; a desire that humans are always trying to seek. It is a natural reaction when you read the paper and see a death then think "oh that's strange."

3. No one goes around telling you that you should be more productive with your time versus spending it on a hobby. Or that they are stupid. So tell us, who are you to tell someone else to do something else with their time? Are you that insecure about your own personality that you must attack how other people spend their time?

4. In retrospect, we could make a simple, circular argument out of this instead. Instead of you spending some of "that life" you have belittling others on Topix, why not spend it solving murders? Do you see how asinine such fallacy is and what it creates? In turn, it still continues the circular argument; thus making you get an itch to give a simple juvenile "I know you are but what am I" retort in response.

5. Telling others that they are defensive, or suggesting it, when no defensive assertions are made to begin with, is a defensive mechanism itself. It is a invalid argument, but it makes you feel better because you "think" it substantiates what you are trying to say, when in fact it doesn't.

6. Apparently enough people "give a blank" about it, otherwise it wouldn't have caught your attention and the attention of others. That notwithstanding, people wouldn't "make up" that they "heard it" or "saw it" if it didn't matter.
LOL yourself

United States

#11 Jun 18, 2012
Just saying wrote:
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1. This is a public forum, anyone can post whatever they choose, whether you like it or not. While you can comment just as freely, don't be surprised knowing that your opinion doesn't matter; therefore, don't flatter yourself by thinking it does.
2. In the past 32 years, there have only been 4 unsolved murders in Roane County. There isn't any arguing this point. People tend to be ignorant and believe suspicious, or "strange" deaths, because it tickles our imagination; a desire that humans are always trying to seek. It is a natural reaction when you read the paper and see a death then think "oh that's strange."
3. No one goes around telling you that you should be more productive with your time versus spending it on a hobby. Or that they are stupid. So tell us, who are you to tell someone else to do something else with their time? Are you that insecure about your own personality that you must attack how other people spend their time?
4. In retrospect, we could make a simple, circular argument out of this instead. Instead of you spending some of "that life" you have belittling others on Topix, why not spend it solving murders? Do you see how asinine such fallacy is and what it creates? In turn, it still continues the circular argument; thus making you get an itch to give a simple juvenile "I know you are but what am I" retort in response.
5. Telling others that they are defensive, or suggesting it, when no defensive assertions are made to begin with, is a defensive mechanism itself. It is a invalid argument, but it makes you feel better because you "think" it substantiates what you are trying to say, when in fact it doesn't.
6. Apparently enough people "give a blank" about it, otherwise it wouldn't have caught your attention and the attention of others. That notwithstanding, people wouldn't "make up" that they "heard it" or "saw it" if it didn't matter.
Like "you" said, it's a public forum. I will comment to any thread that I care to.

Like "I" said, if you can't handle an opposing view, then get off topix.

Only 4 unsolved murders in Roane County in the last 32 years? How about putting the link up here for those stats. Now I would really be interested in seeing that information.
Just saying

United States

#12 Jun 18, 2012
LOL yourself wrote:
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Like "you" said, it's a public forum. I will comment to any thread that I care to.
Like "I" said, if you can't handle an opposing view, then get off topix.
Only 4 unsolved murders in Roane County in the last 32 years? How about putting the link up here for those stats. Now I would really be interested in seeing that information.
I think the first two points have been explicitly outlined; if you're having that much trouble with it that you feel the need to outline it more, perhaps crayons will suit you better. Outlining the aforementioned points becomes redundant and shows lack of a substantial argument. We've already concluded this is a public forum and people can post freely.

I do notice, however, that is the only leading argument you can create, despite other issues. Interesting.

As for the statistics? Prior to expanding into this; are you stupid? Can you not learn how to research? Go "Google" and come back smarter. In the meantime, I'll help you out:

http://www.newsnet5.com/subindex/news/crime

Now, if you choose, you can take the manual data itself and examine it year by year. Either way, the FBI Uniform Crime Report is free and very useful.... to those who know how to use it.
LOL yourself

United States

#13 Jun 19, 2012
FYI, username "just sayin," your link has nothing to do with your statement that there have only been 4 unsolved murders in Roane County in the last 32 years.

You also threw in a few manipulative insults to support my going on a Google goose chase hunt that obviously leads down to a road to nowhere and does not address the statement you made about unsolved murders in Roane County, TN.

But even if you were "able" to produce the stats you referenced,(which you did not), they would not include all unsolved murders when we all know that not all murders are recorded as murders.

For example, murders are not reported as unsolved murders if they were instead reported as manslaughter, an accident, a suicide, or someone was wrongfully or falsely charged for the murder.

Regardless of how deaths are recorded on the books, they are "unsolved murders" if the books are not truthful and inaccurate.

I believe it is this premise that causes people in several counties all over this country to cling to that urban legend that implies that there is something very wrong going on with their local law enforcement's ability or willingness to solve murders.

I also believe this premise includes their belief that their local law enforcement causes some deaths and deliberately reports them dishonestly to avoid accountability for them, and that law enforcement covers-up for some murderers because the murderers are snitches and work for the police. And that some law enforcement places hits on people and then make it look as if the death was the result of a suicide, due to natural causes, an accident, or that someone else is guilty of the murder.

I know of a case in a Midwest state (far from Roane County, TN) that is nearly 30 years old. It was the Sheriff that was murdered. I will refrain from stating what agency of law enforcement was thought to have murdered this Sheriff. But he was a very good Officer of the Law. A good man that was much loved by the law abiding citizens in his community. Even those he arrested had respect for him as they saw him as honorable in his duties. But the local corruption that existed prior to his taking office must have made him being Sheriff a problem for them

Without getting into all of the details, the Sheriff was murdered. An innocent lay person was falsely charged with first degree murder of a law enforcement officer and sentenced to death. On appeal, the sentence was changed to life in prison.

The snitch that refused to lie for the LE agency that he believed were guilty of getting the Sheriff murdered later came up dead. It was ruled a suicide by the local authorities left in power. Before the snitch died, he had talked to some people. So when he came up dead these people knew that he did not commit suicide. The powers to be were so high up and powerful, that these people feared for their own safely and their families. This fear silenced them and the truth never came out. The lies have lived on for over 30 years and it is lies that are recorded on the books by law enforcement.

Even the family members of the Sheriff do not know who really murdered their loved one. And an innocent man was sent to prison, and his family obviously suffered too.

Why didn't anyone come forward? Because they believe they would be killed by LE too.

This is a perfect example of an "unsolved murder" that is recorded as "solved" on the books. But is is really an "unsolved murder" that is not a part of those FBI stats your link refers to.

Corruption exist in a many counties across this country, and some counties this is not so.

Is Roane County a place where their is no corruption or suspicious deaths? This is a question for those in Roane County that cling to that urban legend you are obsessed with mitigating. Just sayin...

As for me, I'll just keep my thoughts to myself since they seem to bother you, and I am done arguing with you.
Bob

Shelby, NC

#14 Jun 22, 2012
Johnny Carson did say that about Roane County
Johnny Fan

Lubbock, TX

#15 Jun 23, 2012
Bob wrote:
Johnny Carson did say that about Roane County
That's right. And it was after he said it, that other people started to put the name of their town or county in place of Roane County, TN. That is how the urban legend got started all over the country. It was on Carson about Roane County, TN and then others adopted the saying for their own town.
gee

United States

#16 Jun 23, 2012
Johnny Fan wrote:
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That's right. And it was after he said it, that other people started to put the name of their town or county in place of Roane County, TN. That is how the urban legend got started all over the country. It was on Carson about Roane County, TN and then others adopted the saying for their own town.
LOL .. How "convenient."

http://mythandurban101.blogspot.com/

Despite all transcripts saved; no where does it list either one of them saying it.

What a joke!
true

United States

#17 Jun 23, 2012
It was said by johnny carson look around it is a good place to kill someone and get by with it our cops are sorry
gee

United States

#18 Jun 23, 2012
true wrote:
It was said by johnny carson look around it is a good place to kill someone and get by with it our cops are sorry
It was never said. Good grief, how many naive and gullible people are around this area?
Bob

Marshall, NC

#19 Jun 23, 2012
gee he freaking said it I was watching that night he said it he said if you wanna get away with murder move to roane county tn, then he said he would not even freaking fly over roane county. I dont care what transcripts you have. He said it
gee

United States

#20 Jun 23, 2012
Bob wrote:
gee he freaking said it I was watching that night he said it he said if you wanna get away with murder move to roane county tn, then he said he would not even freaking fly over roane county. I dont care what transcripts you have. He said it
Sure he did.*wink wink*

It's funny because everyone in every town that claims it, said they were watching when he said it too. lol.

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