Corruption in Roane County

Corruption in Roane County

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Info

Elizabethton, TN

#1 Jul 29, 2011
Let's discuss corruption in Roane County. Anybody know about any corruption there? Are the police and the courts 100% honest. Are tax payer dollars being used to protect and serve all the citizens or Roane County equally and without prejudice? Is there any illegal activity there committed by the cops? Please give any honest input on this subject if you feel safe to do so. I hear many people do not feel safe. But you can now. Eyes from outside of Roane County are looking in... now more than ever.
hahaha

United States

#2 Jul 29, 2011
Oh here we go again. This sure does sound like it going to be another Ralph O'Neal is innocent post and the local LE framed him. Please since you dont live in Roane County how about you worry about where you do live. If people here have a problem they can take care of it without you sticking your nose in it. By the way I am not a PO since you seem to accuse anyone who is not for you to be a PO.......

Since: Jul 11

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#3 Jul 29, 2011
hahaha wrote:
Oh here we go again. This sure does sound like it going to be another Ralph O'Neal is innocent post and the local LE framed him. Please since you dont live in Roane County how about you worry about where you do live. If people here have a problem they can take care of it without you sticking your nose in it. By the way I am not a PO since you seem to accuse anyone who is not for you to be a PO.......
I agree! Every forum on here somehow relates back Ralph O'Neal. People need to get over it!
hahaha

United States

#4 Jul 29, 2011
Aprilhd wrote:
<quoted text> I agree! Every forum on here somehow relates back Ralph O'Neal. People need to get over it!
Glad to see someone else feels the same way. Now there going to start calling us both local Police Officers.
just cause

United States

#5 Jul 29, 2011
hahaha wrote:
<quoted text>
Glad to see someone else feels the same way. Now there going to start calling us both local Police Officers.
Yup. It is really rather sad.
Info

Elizabethton, TN

#6 Jul 29, 2011
Well, we have

"hahaha" from Knoxville,
"Just Cause" in Arlington, TX, and
"Aprilhd" in Ooltewah, TN.

none of which are posting from Roane County (or are they)? Yet, they are telling (or agreeing) that "Info" in Johnson City has no right to start a forum about this topic because "Info" in Johnson City does not live in Roane County! Hmmm. How do they know this? And..., do any of them live in Roane County? If not, then who are they to come onto this forum and attempt to "dictate" orders and "mock" the one who began this forum? Isn't this what corrupt cops do? Yet, poster #2 indicated that they were not a cop. Poster #3,#4 and #5 didn't say one way or another. Why are any of them concerned about this topic being discussed. Why did they even "click on" this forum? Obviously they were interested even though they appear to want to disagree that corruption there exist. Do they REALLY disagree with the fact that there is rampant corruption in Roane County? Hmm.. They didn't say! But they clearly do not like this new forum!

The subject of Ralph O'Neal was not even mentioned on this forum until one of them mentioned it. Therefore they appear to not like this topic either. I wonder why? One of them even said to "Get over it". Who would want anyone to "get over" someone spending their life in prison based on charges that were grossly trumped-up/false and murder charges that are completely false! The two men who killed Ronnie "Boone" Cofer bragged on the streets of Roane County about killing this man. And it was not Ralph O'Neal as many locals, including the family know. Why would any of these 3 posters agree that anyone should "just get over this".

Also, do any of these 3 posters know where "Info" in Johnson City lives? How would they know whether or not this person lives in Roane County?
After all, all of their locations (Arlington, TX, Knoxville, TN and Ooltewah, TN) are not in Roane County. So they are either not in Roane County themselves and thus have no right to be on this forum based on what they said to "Info" in Johnson City.... or they are in Roane County but showing a different location in their post. In that instance, why would they be wanting to "change their location" to be something other then Roane County?
... and couldn't "Info" in Johnson City be changing their location as well?

Yet, one of these posters seems to be convinced that "Info" in Johnson City is not from Roane County. Therefore, one has to ask "how would this poster know this"?

"Just Cause", you might want to change out your username once in a while. Your prior postings in a number of forums clearly show what your agenda is.

Now, the "Corruption in Roane County Forum" WILL give locals (and those who use to live there) an opportunity to discuss this issue whether "Just Cause" and his friends like it or not.

For those who are too fearful to post their stories on this forum... an out-of-state post office box address will be provided where people can send their letters about any corruption in that county.

This WILL continue until false charges against anyone in are dropped! This is not just about Ralph O'Neal... but rather about all the corruption in Roane County, and IT HAS been going on for years! Who gets over that? Anyone who does not like this topic are most likely ones that are guilty of the corruption. Otherwise, they wouldn't be bothered so much about this topic. The "mocking" exposes those individuals. This is self explanatory. Not everyone is intimidated by corrupt thugs who abuse their power while tax payers fund their salaries, medical benefits and retirement plans. Any of those who are recipients of tax payer money, and guilty of corruption, should be ashamed! This is America for heaven sake, not a third world country! Andů no one is above the law! Good cops should not have dirt thrown on their profession by a bunch of thug cops. WE NEED GOOD POLICE ONLY!
just cause

Pflugerville, TX

#7 Jul 29, 2011
The location that you post from on Topix is not an indicator of your actual location. It is based on the SERVER and NOT the poster. When you connect to a server, you are routed by the service provider. In my case, I am in Roane County, posting from my HTC Inspire cell phone, connected to ATT, which just so happens to show me from TX. Most cell phone users in the general area will do the same thing. Not just mine. Educate yourself a bit before you continue to look like an idiot.

If you want furthet proof, you can go to the "Wartburg" forum and look at all the people posting from Oneida. Its not because they are in fact from Oneida, its because Highland Telephone has most of its servers located there.

I agreed that you would calk us police officers, NOT that you have no right to start a thread. Reading comphrension is a good thing, maybe you should start working on that...

And I do not have a reason to change names because I have only used one..which has been this one. Your sick twisted mind seems to think that one person is actually a handful. And it just so happens that handful you have elected to be me. I told you once, I would be happy to openly show you who I am under the circumstances of a formal apology, but you've continued to ignore my offer. Why?
Info

Elizabethton, TN

#8 Jul 29, 2011
On the "Harriman Police Department" forum, "Just Cause" from Oak Ridge, TN wrote the following to Stunned Aussie in Melborne, Australia in response to the Aussie's disgust about the corruption in Roane County.

just cause
Oak Ridge, TN
Reply ╗|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#37Friday Jul 15
just cause wrote:
<quoted text>
You typed all of that thinking no one would know. You're on a proxy server and not from Aus. Nice try tho. Lie some more..do you REALLY want to get into me depicting out what you just wrote?
Hehehehe, your stupidity defies cognitive comprehension.

Then "Stunned Aussie" from Melborne responded with the follwoing...

"I commented so no one would know? Know what mate?
Lie some more? Mate, are you kidding me or what? What am I supposed to be lying about? And yes, by all means, go ahead and depict all you like.
Proxy server, yes indeed, it's for my personal protection, heres why...
http://www.youtube.com/user/MrrAussieHass
What an imbecilic comment you made. Awaiting your reply."

Now, on later posts on the Harriman Police forum "Just Cause" posted using the username "ughh" and location of Arlington, TX. In this post he said the following to the Aussie....

ughhh
Arlington, TX
Reply ╗|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#61Saturday Jul 23
Oh and im posting from my cell phone in oliver springs, i dont live in tx

The above noted shows that "Just Cause" claims to live in Oliver Springs which is near Harriman, TN and in Roane County.

My question for this post is this...

Does anyone know the identity of this poster. He spends a lot of time doing "damage control" wherever the topic or corruption comes up and whenever a crime does not appear to be investigated appropriately. He has posted in the Harriman Police Department forum that he is not a cop. In fact, he has even "mocked" those who have stated that they believe he is a cop. Also, he appears to have a similar writing style to a prior poster who used the username "Omega" back as early as 2007 when Ronnie "Boone" Cofer was murdered. This "Omega" person "mocked" a family friend of Boone in 2007 on that forum when the family friend said the murderer of Boone "was above the law". Who, other than a corrupt cop would do this?

Now, Just Cause and/or Omega... may or may not be a cop. But the fact is this... this poster does not appear to like the cops being asked about the Boone murder investigation not being handled properly. This poster also does not appear to like the topic of Ralph O'Neal who got falsely accused of that murder 3 years after the fact.., and... this poster does not appear to like the topic of corruption in Tennessee. If this poster is not a corrupt cop,....then who is he. He stated in a prior posting on the Harriman Police Department Forum to Aussie and others that he would make his identity known. But he never did. What is it about this poster that bothers him about the aforementioned topic's being discussed? Why does he go into "damage control" mode and seek to mock and intimidate t

Just wondering.....
Info

Elizabethton, TN

#9 Jul 29, 2011
just cause wrote:
The location that you post from on Topix is not an indicator of your actual location. It is based on the SERVER and NOT the poster. When you connect to a server, you are routed by the service provider. In my case, I am in Roane County, posting from my HTC Inspire cell phone, connected to ATT, which just so happens to show me from TX. Most cell phone users in the general area will do the same thing. Not just mine. Educate yourself a bit before you continue to look like an idiot.
If you want furthet proof, you can go to the "Wartburg" forum and look at all the people posting from Oneida. Its not because they are in fact from Oneida, its because Highland Telephone has most of its servers located there.
I agreed that you would calk us police officers, NOT that you have no right to start a thread. Reading comphrension is a good thing, maybe you should start working on that...
And I do not have a reason to change names because I have only used one..which has been this one. Your sick twisted mind seems to think that one person is actually a handful. And it just so happens that handful you have elected to be me. I told you once, I would be happy to openly show you who I am under the circumstances of a formal apology, but you've continued to ignore my offer. Why?
Dear Just Cause,

Thank you very much for the technical information.I really appreciate that. I have to admit that I am not that "up" on that sort of technical information and glad that you shared that with me. I suppose my ignorance on that topic was one of the reasons you have called me an idiot. You seem to like name calling. OK, I am an idiot. Feel better? In reality, crime profiling is more my interest.

Second, I will take you up of the offer you have posted on several forums. If you are not a cop or a corrupt cop... then I apologize for thinking that you were. Not that I have given you a public apology as you have requested... let's see how how you keep up you end of the deal by telling me who, in fact, you are.

I will provide my "thank you" upon receiving this information.
Info

Elizabethton, TN

#10 Jul 29, 2011
Dear Just Cause,

The phrase "Not that I have given you a public apology" in my prior posting should have been

"Now that I have given you a public apology".

Just wanted to correct my typo of one letter from t to w.

I will await your reply as to whom you are as you promised...
Info

Elizabethton, TN

#11 Jul 29, 2011
I am looking for a book that was written a about 30 or so years ago called Corruption in Roane County. It was written by a local male resident. I was told about by a lady over the 4th of July weekend just before watching fire works in another Tennessee town. She stated that she was born and raised in Roane County and that her family for many years had lived there. She said she thought her mother had a copy of this book and she gave me her phone number. I have misplace her number.

I would like to find a copy of this book. Apparently it sold over 100,000 copies. However, the man who wrote it never collected the money on the sell of the book because he mysteriously came up missing the day the book was released. Apparently the book named names of a number of corrupt officials there at the time and stories about their corrupt and illegal activities.

The man's house and everything "just sat" and he was never seen or heard from again. Not even to collect the money from the sell of this book.

Therefore, it appears that this man was killed for writing this book. Obviously those corrupt officials that the wrote about in his book had a motive for killing him. But no body was ever found.

If anyone has knowledge of where I might find a copy of this book, I would be very grateful if you could post that information of this forum.

I will pay good money for a copy. Just state where you would like the money to be sent, and we can then give you an address in NYC in which to send the book.

Thanks for any help anyone can give to me on this.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#12 Jul 29, 2011
To those who are trying to help us in Roane County; thank you. But there is no help for us. Roane county belongs to the corrupt in power and the drug dealers and users.
Info

Elizabethton, TN

#13 Jul 29, 2011
Where God rules, there is always hope! And God can deliver His people from all things that cause them harm and/or injustice.

There are people that are praying for the good folks of Roane County. And we know that there ARE good people in Roane County that would like to see an end to all the corruption and bad things that are hurting people there. Even most addicts would love to be free from addiction and need hope that this is possible.

Are they any government funded programs in Roane County that help people to get off drugs. Is more help needed in this area? Let outsiders know, and maybe more help can be provided to your community in this regard.

What about the churches there. Are they engaged in the community and helping with some of these issues. May outside Christian organizations could help in some way as well.

There are many things that can be done to give the citizens of this lovely county some hope.

This forum would be a good place to express some ideas about how to deal with the corruption there and the other problems negatively affecting this area of Tennessee. Nothing is ever completely hopeless.
an idea

Nashville, TN

#14 Jul 29, 2011
here's an idea... why not just interview some of the decent police officers? There are some here in harriman, I won't name them b/c i feel that it would bring scrutiny to them somehow. The few officer's that I have encountered that i deem to be decent would probably offer info if interviewed individually by someone investigating the corruption. Ask among their own. There will always be someone who tells the truth.
Idea

Elizabethton, TN

#15 Jul 30, 2011
an idea wrote:
here's an idea... why not just interview some of the decent police officers? There are some here in harriman, I won't name them b/c i feel that it would bring scrutiny to them somehow. The few officer's that I have encountered that i deem to be decent would probably offer info if interviewed individually by someone investigating the corruption. Ask among their own. There will always be someone who tells the truth.
Thanks for your idea. But I have to wonder "wouldn't any good cops have already blown the whistle on the corrupt ones"?

Makes me think of the quote

"All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."

I always thought this quote was odd since one would not be considered "good" if they allowed "evil" to prevail. Oh well, what do I know?. I guess if a good cop is scared for himself and his family, he will keep quiet. Which is what you basically implied in your post.

Idea

Elizabethton, TN

#17 Jul 30, 2011
just cause wrote:
The location that you post from on Topix is not an indicator of your actual location. It is based on the SERVER and NOT the poster. When you connect to a server, you are routed by the service provider. In my case, I am in Roane County, posting from my HTC Inspire cell phone, connected to ATT, which just so happens to show me from TX. Most cell phone users in the general area will do the same thing. Not just mine. Educate yourself a bit before you continue to look like an idiot.
If you want furthet proof, you can go to the "Wartburg" forum and look at all the people posting from Oneida. Its not because they are in fact from Oneida, its because Highland Telephone has most of its servers located there.
I agreed that you would calk us police officers, NOT that you have no right to start a thread. Reading comphrension is a good thing, maybe you should start working on that...
And I do not have a reason to change names because I have only used one..which has been this one. Your sick twisted mind seems to think that one person is actually a handful. And it just so happens that handful you have elected tobe me. I told you once, I would be happy to openly show you who I am under the circumstances of a formal apology, but you've continued to ignore my offer. Why?
Dear Just Cause,

I did not ignore your offer. After you wrote this, I soon responded that same day (Friday). Please see my 2 comments after your comment. Based on my response, I am still awaiting for you to abide by your statement that you would reveal your identity that was suppose to prove that you were not one of Roane County's corrupt PO's. But you have not responded with the so-called identity. At least not yet. We will see. If you do not as I suspect your won't... it will be just like I thought. You make empty statements that are not true. Therefore, I will assume you to be who I (and the Aussie) thought you were until you let us know otherwise. Thanking you in advance for helping me to make my point.
More corruption

Elizabethton, TN

#18 Jul 30, 2011
Following is a post from username Intrique from another Harriman forum that was posted before this forum recently began. Since he speaks about the corruption in Roane County in this post, I thought I would cut and paste two of his comments into this from another forum regarding the recent Grover's incident. It appears that "Intrique" also knows about the corruption in Roane County as does many others. So I have to wonder why the posters in #2, 3, 4 and 5 had a problem with this forum when it began. It appears to me that they and /or some cops don't like anyone talking about the corruption in Roane County and of which "Intrique appears to know about".

Thank you Intrigue for willing to call this out. This county needs more MEN like you.... not afraid to hold your public officials accountable and displaying some class and compassion in the process for all victims. You are a class act and a true man!


Intrigue
Since: Jul 11
21
Harriman, TN
Reply ╗|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#16Wednesday Jul 27

Booger Man wrote:
Did Armold Clower ever get caught? Or was he ever involved? We got pulled over once by Mr. Clower. Asked had we been drinking. We hadn't. There had been a drowning on Little Emory, and he had a roadblock set up. Said he was going to stop all this "crap". He meant partying on Little Emory. We were headed back from fishing. Only time I met the guy but was impressed by his language, "crap."
I'm pretty sure Arnold was never involved, at least not to my knowledge. But his son, the RCSD Deputy was always up to something. Used to park at the "gravel pits" in Kingston and wait on the students from the high school to get out for lunch so he could sell right out of the wondow of the police car, and then again after school. He was a piece of work! Had a bad habit of stopping the high school girls and threatening them with "trumped up" tickets if they wouldn't sleep with him. Sad to say many did. I took a ticket from him once, went straight home to my parents with it, and my father took me with him to the Sheriff's Department to speak with his Dad. Arnold took care of the ticket and I NEVER got stopped again in MY car but did a couple of times riding with friends, and we were let go with a "warning". Funny, isn't it? Talk around Roane County was that he was also involved in the murder of those two women that were killed in that apartment building across from the Handee Burger years ago. Was that ever solved?
More corruption

Elizabethton, TN

#19 Jul 30, 2011
Continued...

Booger Man
Continued....
Old Fort, NC
Reply ╗|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#19Wednesday Jul 27

Judged:111
Nah, I never heard anything on Arnold Clower, but I wouldn't put anything past any lawman.

Never really knew his son. By that time I had quit partying and running around Roane County except the drive to Kingston.

I guess everybody knows that the cocaine and quaalude and other HARD DRUGS in Anderson County really skyrocketed after retired State Trooper Dennis Trotter became sheriff in the early 1980s. He got caught along with his dealers. He also made the TV news program 20/20. FBI had him on tape in Las Vegas on vacation with his dealers. They were talking up a plan. Sheriff Trotter rolled a big joint for the other guys and said, "I don't see how you $%&*@# smoke that $#!+ it looks like ragweed. One of the dealers picked up a big baggie full of quaaludes (white downer pills) and placed it under his neck as if it was a beard. Sheriff Trotter said, "Blank, you look just like Santa Claus.

There's been a couple books written on the subject matter. Trotter was involved in some murder/missing persons coverups, also. Sorry to get off subject to Anderson County, but I remember very well when Sheriff Gillis Narramore was caught with all that marijuana. I always thought he was a fairly honest guy up until then.

Then again, put me in a postition with authority like that I might do the same, but would have enough sense NOT TO GET CAUGHT!
Intrigue wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm pretty sure Arnold was never involved, at least not to my knowledge. But his son, the RCSD Deputy was always up to something. Used to park at the "gravel pits" in Kingston and wait on the students from the high school to get out for lunch so he could sell right out of the wondow of the police car, and then again after school. He was a piece of work! Had a bad habit of stopping the high school girls and threatening them with "trumped up" tickets if they wouldn't sleep with him. Sad to say many did. I took a ticket from him once, went straight home to my parents with it, and my father took me with him to the Sheriff's Department to speak with his Dad. Arnold took care of the ticket and I NEVER got stopped again in MY car but did a couple of times riding with friends, and we were let go with a "warning". Funny, isn't it? Talk around Roane County was that he was also involved in the murder of those two women that were killed in that apartment building across from the Handee Burger years ago. Was that ever solved?
Booger Man
Old Fort, NC
Reply ╗|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#20Wednesday Jul 27

Booger Man wrote:
By that time I had quit partying and running around Roane County except the drive to Kingston.
<quoted text>
I meant to say except the drive to Kingston to work.

Intrigue
More corruption

Elizabethton, TN

#20 Jul 30, 2011
Since: Jul 11
21
Harriman, TN
Reply ╗|Report Abuse|Judge it!|#21Wednesday Jul 27

Booger Man wrote:
Nah, I never heard anything on Arnold Clower, but I wouldn't put anything past any lawman.
Never really knew his son. By that time I had quit partying and running around Roane County except the drive to Kingston.

I guess everybody knows that the cocaine and quaalude and other HARD DRUGS in Anderson County really skyrocketed after retired State Trooper Dennis Trotter became sheriff in the early 1980s. He got caught along with his dealers. He also made the TV news program 20/20. FBI had him on tape in Las Vegas on vacation with his dealers. They were talking up a plan. Sheriff Trotter rolled a big joint for the other guys and said, "I don't see how you $%&*@# smoke that $#!+ it looks like ragweed. One of the dealers picked up a big baggie full of quaaludes (white downer pills) and placed it under his neck as if it was a beard. Sheriff Trotter said, "Blank, you look just like Santa Claus.
There's been a couple books written on the subject matter. Trotter was involved in some murder/missing persons coverups, also. Sorry to get off subject to Anderson County, but I remember very well when Sheriff Gillis Narramore was caught with all that marijuana. I always thought he was a fairly honest guy up until then.
Then again, put me in a postition with authority like that I might do the same, but would have enough sense NOT TO GET CAUGHT!
<quoted text>
Wow Booger Man, you remember a lot that's went on around these counties, just as I remember, and several others remember too. I just had a conversation with a couple of people I went to school with about a week ago and we were talking about all of these same people and all of the corruption in this county, and all the years it's been going on.

I remember watching the 20/20 program about Trotter awhile back, as in a few years. He was responsible for allowing a convicted man to lay up in a hotel room with a former guard at Brusy Mountain, and he leater fled to Kentucky and wreaked havoc on that poor doctor and his daughter, and then ran down went on the lam from there and spent a few sunny months in Florida before he was caught. The former guard was from Roane County. I'm SURE you remember that! What a piece of work! I've read some books about this place too and it just amazes me at how nothing has ever been done about any of this, especially as long as it's been going on.

I remember Sheriff Narramore and all that mess and how the weed was supposed to be part of a "sting operstion", with NO suspects.

As far as I know, Arnold Clowers was always a good man. I know my father and some of my uncles and grandfather always thought highly of him, and I never heard anything bad or corrupt about him, but could tell you plenty about his son. Funny thing is, his son ran for Sheriff here in Roane County a few years ago, and got around 400 votes or something to that affect. Did he think people wouldn't remember?

Booger Man, thanks for the information. It's always interesting to learn more about this place, and share information with others who are aware.

Intrigue
More corruption

Elizabethton, TN

#21 Jul 30, 2011
hahaha wrote:
Oh here we go again. This sure does sound like it going to be another Ralph O'Neal is innocent post and the local LE framed him. Please since you dont live in Roane County how about you worry about where you do live. If people here have a problem they can take care of it without you sticking your nose in it. By the way I am not a PO since you seem to accuse anyone who is not for you to be a PO.......
FYI, your Roane County residents past and present have contacted me for help. I didn't stick my nose in anything. I was contacted and my help was requested. My help is still being requested by a number of Roane County residents. I am learning a lot about the corruption there. In the process I heard with my own ears and read with my own eyes some "very very dark" facts about some of the public officials in Roane County as well as in other nearby counties in East TN. You are right I am not from there. I wouldn't live in that county if you paid me to! Not with all that corruption! But I will advocate for those who do because I have family that go way back that were born and raised in that county. "My ancestors" came from there. And I still have family there. Before you go shooting off your mouth, you should stop and wonder what it is you don't know....then ask yourself why corruption in your county doesn't bother you. I find this very interesting. Oh by the way, O'Neal was framed! I've seen far more firsthand information on this subject than you have and talked to more witness than you have, unless you are one of the cops that framed him and put up people to lie about the charges in order to trump them up so he would get life in prison. This cop's vendetta goes back to when they both were kids. This cop's vendetta also is based in racism. And this cop will be exposed sooner or later if this cop continues with his false and malicious agenda. I have heard and read more dark and corrupt things about this cop that I believe even existed. He thinks he owns Roane County. I personally can't wait to see him in jail where he belongs. And if he keeps up with what he has done for a number of years, he will end up in jail or hell, which ever comes first. The FBI might want to distance themselves from this corrupt cop, I don't care who his family is. The guy is dirty!

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