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Harleysville man killed in one-car crash -- themorningcall.com

There are 49 comments on the The Morning Call story from Oct 2, 2007, titled Harleysville man killed in one-car crash -- themorningcall.com. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

A 25-year-old Harleysville man was killed when he crashed his sports coupe on a Perkiomenville Road in Upper Salford Township, Montgomery County, just before 6 p.m. last night.

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Gavin s Step Sis Gina

Philadelphia, PA

#44 Oct 4, 2007
speedtats wrote:
To anyone offended by my comments, here's the deal -
I apologize and sympathize with your loss. It's never nice nor deserved for anyone to lose a family member. If you read that into anything I previously wrote, then please PLEASE accept my most humble apology. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings or to denigrate the memory of any lost loved ones.
That being said, full disclosure - I have also lost loved ones to driving too fast for conditions, and a careful reading of the story and from witness accounts, that appears to be the case here. This young man was driving too fast, lost control for whatever reason - deer or not - and ended up paying for his mistake with his life. Also, stock or not, the car was simply not capable of safely navigating the road and/or conditions at the speed at which it was being driving, or it would not have left the road and crashed, barring, or course, some massive mechanical failure - which we would have read about. We did not. Speed and the subsequent driver error at that speed is the only thing that could have caused this accident the way it happened. I know it's not a politically-correct thing to say, but this kid was driving too fast, lost control, and ended up paying with his life, deer or no deer - just like some of my friends and loved ones have done in the past. My point is that too many kids are racing around in these hatchbacks entirely too fast - just like Gavin - and too many of them are getting hurt and killed and hurting and killing other people too - just like Gavin. It's senseless and it is a waste when it's something that could be so easily prevented simply by lifting one's heavy right foot and realizing that one is NOT in a racecar and is NOT on a racetrack where such driving and speed belongs. That's my point, and here's another needless death proving my point for me.
Once again, sorry for your loss and I understand the pain you feel. Trust me. I've attended far too many wakes and funeral services caused by excessive speed and driver error to not get it. Hopefully the good that will come out of this is that other kids will read about Gavin's death and slow down.
Please don't give an apology and then get on your soapbox about what you think happened. It's hypocritical. You don't know a damn thing, you did not see the scene and there were no witnesses. When the report comes out then that is the business of THE FAMIILY. We have our beliefs. DO NOT make my brother a poster child for anything. He's not even buried yet and I'm sickened by this crap. Leave him be. Gavin was a man that everyone wanted to be around. His personality was infectious. There are literally hundreds of people grieving. Don't disrespect him by trying to make an example out of him when you don't know sh&*.
Unreal

Gilbertsville, PA

#45 Oct 5, 2007
First off, my condolences to the family of Gavin. Second, I cannot believe the ignorance here. For God sakes people, when you type on these forums, realize that there are real people with real feelings on the other end reading these comments.

I can't imagine what Gavin's family is going through right now. I pray to God that myself or anyone else here never has to experience something like this. Show some respect for others, especially those who are grieving the lost of a good friend, sister, brother, mother, family member or a loved one.

Gina, I didn't know Gavin or your family, but please know that despite the few on here that lack empathy, there are MANY more people out there that are praying for your family at this time. I will continue to pray for you and your family during this difficult time. Please take care.
Aunt Kim

East Elmhurst, NY

#46 Oct 5, 2007
Lenny wrote:
he was probaly wasted and got hit.
Okay, I've had enough! You, to quote someone earlier, are a complete waste of life!!! YOU wouldn't have a single person greiving for you! YOU would wish for this out-crying of love, support and defence that people have shown for Gavin. All of you, who have had hurtful, nasty, empty comments, and have used this horrifing event as a platform, can all go straight to hell. What, have no one to talk to, no one who will listen to you, so you have to jump on an article you've read in a newspaper??? I have two sons who lost they're cousin, and can't wrap their little heads around the fact they won't ever see Gavin again. They idolized him, they wanted to be just like him. How do I comfort them?? Read them some of the hatful comments in this forum?? I too lost a nephew, a boy I have loved since he was 5! He was a brother, a son, a friend, he was everything!! I'll say it again, he was a BLESSING!
You simple bastards I hope have to read the same crap about someone you love!!! You simple minded bastards! Leave Gavin's family ALONE!!!! You have no right at all, if your that stupid you have no rights to speak, because nothing you say has any validity at all!
Aunt Kim

East Elmhurst, NY

#47 Oct 5, 2007
speedtats wrote:
To anyone offended by my comments, here's the deal -
I apologize and sympathize with your loss. It's never nice nor deserved for anyone to lose a family member. If you read that into anything I previously wrote, then please PLEASE accept my most humble apology. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings or to denigrate the memory of any lost loved ones.
That being said, full disclosure - I have also lost loved ones to driving too fast for conditions, and a careful reading of the story and from witness accounts, that appears to be the case here. This young man was driving too fast, lost control for whatever reason - deer or not - and ended up paying for his mistake with his life. Also, stock or not, the car was simply not capable of safely navigating the road and/or conditions at the speed at which it was being driving, or it would not have left the road and crashed, barring, or course, some massive mechanical failure - which we would have read about. We did not. Speed and the subsequent driver error at that speed is the only thing that could have caused this accident the way it happened. I know it's not a politically-correct thing to say, but this kid was driving too fast, lost control, and ended up paying with his life, deer or no deer - just like some of my friends and loved ones have done in the past. My point is that too many kids are racing around in these hatchbacks entirely too fast - just like Gavin - and too many of them are getting hurt and killed and hurting and killing other people too - just like Gavin. It's senseless and it is a waste when it's something that could be so easily prevented simply by lifting one's heavy right foot and realizing that one is NOT in a racecar and is NOT on a racetrack where such driving and speed belongs. That's my point, and here's another needless death proving my point for me.
Once again, sorry for your loss and I understand the pain you feel. Trust me. I've attended far too many wakes and funeral services caused by excessive speed and driver error to not get it. Hopefully the good that will come out of this is that other kids will read about Gavin's death and slow down.
And to YOU, again, I said it before, THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!!! Too late now to back peddle out of nasty, hateful comments you already made!!! Too little, too late!!!! The only saving grace with this entire thing is what Gavin was to everyone, and he would even laugh at your stupidity.
Gavin s Sis Gina fr Phila

Philadelphia, PA

#48 Oct 5, 2007
Unreal wrote:
First off, my condolences to the family of Gavin. Second, I cannot believe the ignorance here. For God sakes people, when you type on these forums, realize that there are real people with real feelings on the other end reading these comments.
I can't imagine what Gavin's family is going through right now. I pray to God that myself or anyone else here never has to experience something like this. Show some respect for others, especially those who are grieving the lost of a good friend, sister, brother, mother, family member or a loved one.
Gina, I didn't know Gavin or your family, but please know that despite the few on here that lack empathy, there are MANY more people out there that are praying for your family at this time. I will continue to pray for you and your family during this difficult time. Please take care.
Thank you for your kind words and support. I know that there are more people out there that are praying for us but it is a shame that the few idiots who say these deplorable things take away from the supportive words of people like yourself. Thanks again and God Bless.
Amazed

Tempe, AZ

#49 Oct 5, 2007
I would first like to give my condolences to Gavin’s family and friends. Losing someone is an awful thing to go through and I am deeply sorry for your loss. I am also sorry for all of the inconsiderate people who are posting inappropriate comments.

A special note to his mother: losing a child is against nature and I am truly sorry that you are going through this.

A special note to Ziggy: you are a real life hero – bless you.

Now to you inconsiderate people: I am truly amazed that there are people who are that cold in the world. You were not in the car, or a witness to the accident therefore you had no idea what happened and have no right to make the comments that you have made. This family is going through enough, and to have to read your crap too is just unnecessary. I am sure that all of you at some point in your life have made a bad decision. So let me make this clear – YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE THE SITUATION, MAKE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT GAVIN, HIS DRIVING, OR THE WAY HE WAS RAISED.

Since we were little we have been taught a few things one of them “treat others how you want to be treated” so put yourself in Gavin’s family’s shoes and you tell me would you like to have people ripping a loved one apart for the mistake they made? I think not.
MJP

Wilmington, DE

#50 Oct 6, 2007
My condolences to Gavin's family and friends. May God be with you during this difficult time. My mother is doing the funeral flowers, and came home to tell me what a wonderul and strong family you are. Keep faith, and carry Gavin and the memories you have of him with you forever.

PS - I cannot believe the shallow and inconsiderate people writing the must obsence and inappropriate comments. Just think if this horrible accident happened to your son, your brother, your cousin or friend..
Think whatever you want, but all I ask is think before speak.
Liam Gavins cousin

Philadelphia, PA

#51 Oct 7, 2007
I just wanted to write that Gavin was my favorite "Stinky". I am his 11 year old cousin, I will always love him, and will always try to be just like him. I wish I could have him back, I don't want to say goodbye!
For all you morons SHUT UP, leave my Stinky ALONE!
Uncle Jack

Jonesboro, GA

#52 Oct 10, 2007
Gavin had the most kind soul , he was our gentle giant with a smile as big big as the sun, and eyes that would melt your heart, he will be missed so much! to not be able to give him a huge bear hug anymore he made everyone smile just by looking at him with his bright smile! Thank you Sharon for giving us Gavin we cherish the time we had with him he was a great gift to all who knew him. WE LOVE YOU!
Jack, Marlene, Jessica and Joshua
XOXOXOXO

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