Lower Macungie Township may go after ...

Lower Macungie Township may go after bankrupt builder's money

There are 57 comments on the The Morning Call story from May 9, 2009, titled Lower Macungie Township may go after bankrupt builder's money. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Philip Jewell and his Lower Macungie Township neighbors already have lived four years in their $200,000 to $300,000 homes with unfinished roads and driveways.

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wawawat

Birdsboro, PA

#1 May 9, 2009
wait till the home owners find out how many of there homes where built on unstable ground.
In the know

Taylor, PA

#2 May 9, 2009
Great place, they're 2 years past the date, they were suppose to have the roads done and the township waits until after they file for bankruptcy, to try to get the escrow money. I think Lower Macungie Township needs some new elected officals, that have the good of residents in mind
ouch

Mount Aetna, PA

#3 May 9, 2009
I guess they should have stayed in NY and NJ then they wouldn't have to worry about it
Hopfly

Phillipsburg, NJ

#5 May 9, 2009
ouch wrote:
I guess they should have stayed in NY and NJ then they wouldn't have to worry about it
I couldn't agree more.
Oglio Records

Lititz, PA

#6 May 9, 2009
In the know wrote:
Great place, they're 2 years past the date, they were suppose to have the roads done and the township waits until after they file for bankruptcy, to try to get the escrow money. I think Lower Macungie Township needs some new elected officals, that have the good of residents in mind
I don't think it's the Tp.'s fault. Drawing on developer-posted security to complete improvements is a last resort, and would obviously require the Tp. to do the improvements themselves or contract for the work. No way for the Tp. to know the developer would go under.

I should think the funds / posted security became the Tp.'s at the time the plan was approved and would remain in the Tp.'s name until completion of the project, thereby avoiding any bankruptcy look-back period. In other words, the bankruptcy doesn't affect the Tp.'s ability to draw on the security.
Dick Hertz

Emmaus, PA

#8 May 9, 2009
That's what the homeowners get for buying pressed board wrapped in plastic shacks, and that's what township officials get for allowing people like THP (The Housing Projects) to rape their community.
Oh Really Mr Nelson

Bethlehem, PA

#9 May 9, 2009
Wow... any EXPERIENCED municipal attorney should know that the performance security for a new development is in the name of the MUNICIPALITY and whether the developer goes bankrupt or not does not matter. Unless, somehow, Lower Macungie let the security lapse or expire. Then, good luck. Municipalities all accross Pennsylvania face this situation somewhat regularly. The solution is simple, declare the developer in default as per the Contract between the Township and Developer, present the declaration to the Bank or lending institution, have the money wired to the Township's account and there you have it. Now, the Township simply needs to develop a punchlist of what remains to be done as per the contract and get it done. Perhaps Mr. Nelson should be a little more up on the law. If the money is NOT there, then someone at Lower Macungie fell asleep at the wheel and did not properly protect the Township.
Terry of Pennsburg

Allentown, PA

#10 May 9, 2009
You people are the fault of it. You people are the one who buy mass production (development) homes. Live with it.

"THP" is as much at fault, but townships and/or boroughs are just as much the fault to.

Just level unfinished homes and straighten out the land (the best solution).
Mert of Phillipsburg

Allentown, PA

#11 May 9, 2009
Just another effect of the Housing burp, Obaama will save us all
ABC

United States

#12 May 9, 2009
Why don't they go after the money that lady swiped from the sewer payments that never got into the municipality ???
dda

Macungie, PA

#13 May 9, 2009
It amazes me how many people are upset when others have more than them!! Get a life and if you have that much free time, go out and get a job so you can have what you want. Just to let you know, I had a home inspection company come out to my home before I bought it and was told it was solid. It was also one of the most difficult inspectors in the LV. How sad is your life that you have to be GREEN?????
joe poli

AOL

#14 May 9, 2009
When I read the article I was hoping no one would bring up the New York New Jersey connection but I was wrong.

The jealous, jealous, envious, low life $10.00 and hour, yellow toothed, pickup truck driving, scrapple and ring baloney eating, two dollar haircut, 20 year old baseball cap wearing, low IQ, psychic predictor, locals just could not resist geting their rocks off on someone else's misfortune.

I have a suggestion for you Zeke: why don't you got over to the developments and tell them how you feel to their faces. Or are you going to hide in you hovel with your mangy animals and hide behind your computer.

How do you know all of those people are from NY or NJ? I know people who live there and they are Valley natives.
joe poli

AOL

#15 May 9, 2009
Also, I assume all you critics live on 50 acres in a custom designed 10,000 square foot created by an architect. I'm sure you have massive tiled bathrooms next to your theatre room with its 120 inch plasma tv.

Get a life, you sould like a disgruntled union carpenter or a jealous life-life who has now education and no motivation. Doncha know drinkin' beer is not a qualification for getting a job. Now roll over onto your 300 pound, ugly woman and go back to sleep.

Man, have some compassion for your fellow human beings.
joe poli

AOL

#16 May 9, 2009
I mean low life.
esm

Emmaus, PA

#17 May 9, 2009
ABC wrote:
Why don't they go after the money that lady swiped from the sewer payments that never got into the municipality ???
she's dead now. she had brain cancer
Informed

Ambler, PA

#18 May 9, 2009
Dick Hertz wrote:
That's what the homeowners get for buying pressed board wrapped in plastic shacks, and that's what township officials get for allowing people like THP (The Housing Projects) to rape their community.
Well Put!
Local, reputable real Estate agents and local home builders warned clients, land sellers and townships about the likes of THP. These larger out of town builders came in and manipulated land pricing, drove up land values and house pricing for everyone and now we are left to deal with the carnage they have caused in the Lehigh Valley as well as many other areas across the country. Larger, out of town builders are the root of our economic issues. By outbidding everyone on every piece of land in the area, they take control of the market and raise pricing. Every builder, including local builders are forced to pay more and charge more. All the happy homeowners flock to their developments, overpay for their houses and when the banks come in to take the house back, the value isn't there, because truly the value was never there. The value was controlled and manipulated by the land cost which was driven up by the out of town builder/developer. Eventually when the economy slows, they all run with no regard for what they left behind. Greedy land owners and greedy home buyers who do not care about supporting their local businesses should have done business with local companies instead of out of towners. hopefully we have learned a lesson.
joe poli

AOL

#19 May 9, 2009
Informed, and who are the greedy landowners that sold the property? Were they locals. You sound like a frustrated local contractor who was in the one at a time house building business. I agree that the big builders had the cash to buy the land but as my mama said "It takes two to tango". Local farmers sold the land for variious reasons and money was the main motivator.

I'm sure you charge rock bottom prices for the work you do. Yeh, give me a break.

By the way a lot of the houses built in the Valley over the last 50 years were cookie cutter houses that are just a variation on the rectangle.

You are another bitter local who is jealous of those who worked hard and who have more than you. You use the word "carnage" to describe thoughful, reasonable development. I have driven the back roads of the Valley and can tell you there are a lot of locals living in houses that should have been condemned 50 years ago.

Man, try to relax; all of your wishin' and hopin' is not going to change a thing. LMT is built out and the migration has slowed. I like in a development in LMT and have had no problems with my house.

Years ago I lived in a development in Bethlehem which was built by a LOCAL builder. Everyone had problems with their houses from leaking roofs to jamming doors to warped doors to cheap heat pumps that cost a fortune to run. Don't tell me about the quality of local builders or local vendors.

Local businesses will rip you off just as quickly as an out of state developer. I know, I went through the experience; I got a price from a vendor who came back a second time. When he saw the inside of my house, he raised the price. He ended up with nothing.

People who live in the new developments pay a lot more taxes that those distribution centers that take up all that space. Many of the people living in the developments are successful natives of the Valley.
Country Girl

Macungie, PA

#20 May 9, 2009
I don't feel sorry for these people who bought these houses. They come from the big cities and ruin our beautiful farm lands. This is the country, the roads are suppose to be made of dirt! Go back to your big city with your big over crowded paved streets.
amanda

Easton, PA

#21 May 9, 2009
I am so sick and tired of hearing people complain that people from New Jersey and New Yorker came here to PA. SO WHAT!!!! Who gives a crap where these homeowners are from. The bottom line is that this builder screwed up and now the homeowners have to suffer.

And why complain about people moving here from NJ or NY? How many people living here now are from other states other then those two? I suppose that's okay though? Who cares if someone is from New York, California, Florida, Texas, or Germany for that matter. Deal with it! They are still a human being so grow the he*l up and crawl back under your rock if you don't like it. I don't know about you, but when I meet someone I don't ask them where they are from, I get to know them for them. You'd think a bunch of freakin kids were on these forums for how much some of you carry on with the name calling and bashing.
Hate everyone

Schnecksville, PA

#22 May 9, 2009
I personally think everyone of the people who purchase these homes in the developments are nuts. It doesn't matter where you come from, your still nuts. If I had to live in them I'd hate everyone. I don't know if its a herd mentality, safer in numbers feeling or what. Why anyone, who isn't elderly, would want to live on a postage stamp 15 feet from their neighbors and have to hear every little thing that goes on is beyond me. Let alone pay over $300K to live in a home where some stupid homeowners group can tell you what to do with your own home is insane. I'll keep my humble 6 acre slice of sanity and do whatever the hell I please with it thank you very much.

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