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hiker

Hyden, KY

#1 Dec 10, 2012
I like to get out and hike but I'm concerned about bears. Any opinions on what caliber handgun I could use for protection. I'm not looking to hunt and take down a bear in one shot. Just looking for something that I could stop one with without being half eaten. The smallest effective caliber is essentially what I'm looking for and something that isn't too expensive as this is really all I'm needing a gun for. How about a 380 with an extra mag? I appreciate any serious opinions and advice.

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#2 Dec 10, 2012
380 is ok!!! But I like the 1911 45 auto....Great for stoping power!!!!! Or the 357 magnum..... I have seen 380 auto's that wouldnt penetrate a leather jacket......Altho the ammo was bought at wal-mart.........So get you ammo somewhere else!!!!!
hiker

Hyden, KY

#3 Dec 10, 2012
thanks for the advice
Bear

Harlan, KY

#4 Dec 10, 2012
44mag but expensive,smallest effective caliber 357mag with a heavy hunting round.Shop around and find good prices on 357mags...good luck.
hiker

Hyden, KY

#5 Dec 10, 2012
thx
sharpshooter

London, KY

#6 Dec 10, 2012
hiker wrote:
thx
I agree with the man who advised the tried and true .45, cant beat it IMO. The Glock 30 is light, has powerful stopping power and its very accurate. You could use it for home defense, concealed carry, and as a hip-holster gun for hiking. You cant go wrong with a Glock. Yes a 1911 is more accurate but way more expensive than a Glock if you're buying a Colt, Wilson, Kimber or other high end but reliable brand.

The US Army directed rangers training in the rocky mountains to shoot for the neck instead of the head in case of bear attack. I don't know what their reasoning was. But that was the protocol.

Here is a link to a site that gives directions for what to do in case of bear attack...They claim that its better to carry bear-spray.

http://artofmanliness.com/2008/01/30/how-to-s...
Bushwhacker

Harlan, KY

#7 Dec 10, 2012
First, wear your best running shoes, and don't take anything less thatn a 44 mag for protection. You will only piss them off with a 380. and you had better practice with the weapon of your choice before you take it into the woods for protection!
sharpshooter

London, KY

#9 Dec 10, 2012
Bushwhacker wrote:
First, wear your best running shoes, and don't take anything less thatn a 44 mag for protection. You will only piss them off with a 380. and you had better practice with the weapon of your choice before you take it into the woods for protection!
He's talking about a black bear, not a rhino LOL.
A .22 LR will kill a black bear with a well placed shot and the right ammo like CCI stingers.
I agree with you on one thing, with a .44 mag a new shooter better damn sure practice up with it.

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#10 Dec 10, 2012
sharpshooter wrote:
<quoted text>He's talking about a black bear, not a rhino LOL.
A .22 LR will kill a black bear with a well placed shot and the right ammo like CCI stingers.
I agree with you on one thing, with a .44 mag a new shooter better damn sure practice up with it.
That's ridiculous. A .22 wouldn't penetrate its skull and probably wouldn't penetrate the fat layer around its vital organs. A .380 would be just as ineffective.

A Glock or Springfield XD .40 or .45 (I prefer .40) with good hollow point rounds are a good choice. If those are out of your price range Taurus makes a decent gun at a good price.

1911s are nice to collect, but they are heavy, more expensive, and most only use single-stack magazines which limit you to 7-8 rounds.

I'd be a lot more worried about pillheads, meth heads, and marijuana growers than black bears.
lol

Somerset, KY

#11 Dec 10, 2012
You have as much chance of being bear attacked as winning the lottery!
sharpshooter

London, KY

#12 Dec 10, 2012
Backroads Wanderer wrote:
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That's ridiculous. A .22 wouldn't penetrate its skull and probably wouldn't penetrate the fat layer around its vital organs. A .380 would be just as ineffective.
A Glock or Springfield XD .40 or .45 (I prefer .40) with good hollow point rounds are a good choice. If those are out of your price range Taurus makes a decent gun at a good price.
1911s are nice to collect, but they are heavy, more expensive, and most only use single-stack magazines which limit you to 7-8 rounds.
I'd be a lot more worried about pillheads, meth heads, and marijuana growers than black bears.
LOL a .22 has more penetrating power and penetrates just as deep or deeper than anything you mentioned pal.
Here is a write-up about a black bear being shot and killed in Fla. with a ..... you guessed it, a .22 Bear is dead, man went to jail for killing it. http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/9702/FL/US/

Like I said we are talking about a black bear here not an rhino. Have you ever killed a hog? A hog has a pretty thick scull, when I raised them I killed all of mine with a .22lr one shot. It never failed.
sharpshooter

London, KY

#13 Dec 10, 2012
For the original poster:

I wouldn't shoot a mangy rabid dog with a .380 and expect any results.
Go with the .45 Its a good all around caliber. After you shoot one enough to be accurate with it you'll be satisfied.
sharpshooter

London, KY

#14 Dec 10, 2012
Backroads Wanderer wrote:
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That's ridiculous. A .22 wouldn't penetrate its skull and probably wouldn't penetrate the fat layer around its vital organs. A .380 would be just as ineffective.
A Glock or Springfield XD .40 or .45 (I prefer .40) with good hollow point rounds are a good choice. If those are out of your price range Taurus makes a decent gun at a good price.
1911s are nice to collect, but they are heavy, more expensive, and most only use single-stack magazines which limit you to 7-8 rounds.
I'd be a lot more worried about pillheads, meth heads, and marijuana growers than black bears.
If you want a bullet to penetrate into a fat layer, why would you use HP rounds instead of jacketed RN rounds? You're ridicules, and you're giving the guy bad advice to boot. Keep wandering, you may find something that you know something about. You obviously know nothing about guns and ammo.
sharpshooter

London, KY

#15 Dec 10, 2012
Backroads Wanderer wrote:
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That's ridiculous. A .22 wouldn't penetrate its skull and probably wouldn't penetrate the fat layer around its vital organs. A .380 would be just as ineffective.
A Glock or Springfield XD .40 or .45 (I prefer .40) with good hollow point rounds are a good choice. If those are out of your price range Taurus makes a decent gun at a good price.
1911s are nice to collect, but they are heavy, more expensive, and most only use single-stack magazines which limit you to 7-8 rounds.
I'd be a lot more worried about pillheads, meth heads, and marijuana growers than black bears.
Hey I want to apologize for being ....assholish, LOl Its been a bad day pal. And that has nothing to do with you. I agree with almost everything you said, except that a .22 is ineffective on a black bear.
Again, sorry pal.
Rhino

Harlan, KY

#16 Dec 10, 2012
you are wrong about the .22...but right about being assholish....pal.I apologize
Grrrrrrrr

Madisonville, KY

#17 Dec 11, 2012
I prefer a .40 caliber. Here is something to remember about a bear though. Their heart rate is so low, that it would take quiet a while for one to die from a gunshot. So even if you were to shoot one, remember it will not die instantly.
sharpshooter

Lexington, KY

#18 Dec 11, 2012
Rhino wrote:
you are wrong about the .22...but right about being assholish....pal.I apologize
well screw you then.....pal.
P-sharpshooter

Harlan, KY

#19 Dec 11, 2012
stop hijacking topix,whats wrong with you?
sharpshooter

Harlan, KY

#20 Dec 11, 2012
P-sharpshooter wrote:
stop hijacking topix,whats wrong with you?
Nothing is wrong with me, are you the ruler of topix now or something?
stop being an idiot, that's whats wrong with you.
P-sharpshooter

Harlan, KY

#21 Dec 11, 2012
what makes you thinking I was talking to you sharpshooter? LOL

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