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Top 10 things to have in your disaster shelter

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“Use Your Prepper Sense”

Since: Sep 09

In Your Head

#1 Jan 4, 2013
The Top Ten Things To Have In Your Shelter

Security shelters/ bunkers are not used as they once were in the cold war era. There was a time when deep underground bunkers were prepared for long term hibernation. The thinking at the time was that thousand of nuclear war heads would be unleashed by both the US and the USSR causing wide spread destruction and long term radiation.

Wide spread nuclear destruction is now at the bottom of the list of most likely disaster scenarios. Even if nuclear weapons were used it would most likely be in the form of an EMP device which would detonate in the atmosphere. Because of this new way of thinking, there is a new way to use underground shelters. A new way to use a shelter that reduces the size cost and reduce the possibility that people will know you have a shelter.(This is very important).

Smaller shelters (Urban Foxholes) located with entrances in your own home or under your patio can be used for securing your family and your food and water and arms storage, they can be used as a safe when you are not at home, they can even be used as a wine cellar. In these systems you will enter and exit it throughout the day or night and take cover in it when needed. During times of civil unrest your family can sleep in the shelter, and someone will always stand guard in the main parts of the house. The object is to never let your home look abandoned if possible. If the home has to be abandoned because of flooding, everything will be safe while you are gone.

The Top Ten Things to Consider When Building a Shelter

1) Affordability assessment

2) Risk Assessment

3) Household Survival Plan

4) Geological Assessment

5) Shelter sizing

6) Choosing a shelter location

7) Shelter entry system

8) Shelter Air System

9) Emergency Escape System

10) Top things to have in your survival shelter

1) Affordability Assessment. We purchase car insurance, health insurance and even life insurance for when we die…. How about purchasing some insurance to help you and your family live?? How much are you willing, or can you afford to invest in a survival plan for your family? You have basically 4 choices.

A “stay put shelter”(Large underground bomb style bunker) and they are the most expensive systems and impossible to hide the installation from neighbors.

“Urban Foxhole” shelters are smaller, less expensive and easier to hide the installation. They can be installed inside your existing garage.

Plastic lined room with an air system

Nothing……… The old wrap the kids in foil and hide behind a tree trick.

Other countries have been preparing their citizens to survive disasters ever since ww2. In fact in some parts of the world shelters are required in all new construction. Here in the US people seem to think the government will take care of us, or that we have nothing to worry about. History proves that every society ever created has had life span and that eventually terminates in its destruction. As a good provider for my family I feel the need to plan for disaster but hope it never happens. To be ignorant of the possibilities is negligence. You must be prepared to take care of yourself.

2) Risk Assessment. I categorize the risk into 2 categories. Natural disasters or man made disasters. What disaster are you most likely to be confronted with?

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

Since: Sep 09

In Your Head

#2 Jan 4, 2013
Tornado's or Hurricanes. These are the two most likely natural disasters you will face. Over 1,000 tornadoes and 1-3 hurricanes a year take place in the United States alone. Only the most destructive are reported on nationwide news. Large long stay underground bunkers or Urban Foxholes’ are both suitable for these events.

Fire and flooding are another Natural disaster. In the case of fires both long stay underground bunkers and Urban Foxholes are suitable with appropriate air systems. Flooding is another story. Anything underground is risky because not all shelters are water proof. Also , once water has risen above your snorkels you will not be able to exchange the air inside the shelter and opening the hatch door with a lake on top of you can only be done by flooding completely the inside of your shelter to equalize the pressure on both sides of the hatch. If your shelter is water proof you can leave your valuables, including food and arms, inside the unit to retrieve later.

Pandemic situations I consider to be natural disasters and something as simple as a plastic lined room with an air filtration system can be the difference between life and death.

Solar Flares or Coronal mass ejection is another natural disaster. The consequences could mean the loss of our power grid and possibly the melt down of our own nuclear facilities. Deep underground and or urban fox hole bunkers like Smart Product Technology Security Pod are both suitable shelters.

Earthquakes are another concern. Usually a earthquake happens with no warning so getting into a shelter is not as likely during the event. However you want your shelter to survive to keep your stores safe and also to be able to have a shelter to get into for after effects and aftershocks. Deep underground systems or Urban Foxhole bunkers like Smart Product Technology Security Pod are both suitable shelters.

Man made disaster would include events such as;

Nuclear events, most likely EMP devices. Deep underground and or Urban Foxhole bunkers like Smart Product Technology Security Pod are both suitable shelters.

Economic collapse or civil unrest. Every day in and out use of your shelter would be the most effective. Deep underground systems that no one knows about and are accessed from your home or Urban Fox Hole bunkers like Smart Product Technology Security Pod are both suitable shelters. Accessing it from inside your home for everyday use is the key.

Terrorism/ Dirty bomb events. Deep underground systems that no one knows about and are accessed from your home or urban fox hole bunkers like Smart Product Technology Security Pod are both suitable shelters. Accessing it from inside your home is a huge benefit.

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

Since: Sep 09

In Your Head

#3 Jan 4, 2013
3) Household Survival Plan

Are you a stockpile and stay put for a long term family? These shelters are typically your larger deep underground systems and are very expensive. Although they have a better comfortability factor then small shelters there are also some serious drawbacks to the systems. If its not located on your immediate property you may not be able to get to it for starters. Did any neighbor see you craning it into the back yard?? If so… they may respect your privacy for a week or so but eventually when there is no water or food they will come knocking on your hatch. If one person knows outside of your family, that could be the difference between life and death. Another draw back is perhaps just 30miles away things are un affected. You will be stuck in your large bunker stuffed with everything you need because you cant move all your stores. These consequences will cause you to have an enormous need for security.


Are you a “survive the initial event in your smaller shelter” planner that can move when necessary to new locations and return when necessary as fluid events take place. You will need alternate locations to go to. Know your escape routes. Green belts and power line easements are wonderful. Stockpiles can be stored in your security pod. We live 30 miles from the ocean so after a week or two of an event we will make our way to the water and out to see. We will seek out a location unaffected by the disaster. We have buried a few 5 gallon pales with provisions along the routes and have geo cached them. Even small systems can be used for long term stays but they just are not as comfortable as large systems.

4) Geological assessment

What type of geological substructure are you sitting on? Do you have allot of boulders, Granite, or other hard substrate? Is the ground porous? Clay? How shallow is the water table in the spring and winter? Are there ponds or lakes nearby? These things need to be considered. Water is especially a problem for underground systems. If you think water could affect you will need a water proof system such as the Security Pod by Smart Product Technology.

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

Since: Sep 09

In Your Head

#4 Jan 4, 2013
5) shelter sizing

How many people will be in your shelter? Keep in mind the amount of food water and air everyone in the shelter will need. The minimum water for a grown man is 10 cups a day. A minimum 1,200 calories a day to keep the body from feeding off of itself. An adult will require approximately 10 cubic feet of natural atmosphere per hour for breathing for an adult.

How long will you occupy the shelter will be another factor in sizing the system needed. The shorter the stay inside the less comfortable it needs to be. That means the less expensive it needs to be.

6) Choosing a shelter location

Long term stay put shelters.

Remember you cannot move! You are married to your long term bunker. The biggest drawback is the lack of secrecy when installing such a system. If it’s located in your back yard and you live in the suburbs that would probably mean that your neighbors saw you craning it over the house or saw all the concrete and pump trucks in your yard. Chances are you also told someone what you were doing and asked them not to say anything. Asking someone not to say anything is really asking them just to tell their closest friends only….then the closest friend does the same thing and so on and so on. The best security is that no one knows about the bunker! Not even the neighbor. For security reasons it is better to place such a large bunker on remote property outside of the view of neighbors. That creates a new problem… It’s not quickly accessible and that will limit what events it can be used for. People that know you have emergency supplies may respect your privacy the first week or two but when things become desperate you will hear the knock knock on your hatch.

Smaller urban foxhole shelters

It is highly recommended that the shelter be installed with an entrance inside your home or on your immediate property with the entrance only steps from the house. When the entrance is inside your home you will have the maximum use and security for the shelter. Entering from inside the home allows additional uses such as safe rooms for home intrusions. You can occupy both the residence and the shelter going in and out of either as necessary without exposing yourself to the outside. These systems are far less expensive then the large bunkers but come with air systems and locking systems just like the big ones.

7) Entry Systems

There are a number of hatches available. The least expensive systems are heavy and hard to manage. To get a good sized opening with hydraulic assists is going to cost between 8,000 and 20,000. This is one of the most important elements of your bunker. This will protect you from blasts, water intrusion, zombies, grenades or whatever you think you need to be protected from. It’s always good to have a 2nd exit incase debris falls on your shelter. Smart Product Technology Security Pods come with a jacking system to hydraulically lift debris off of you from inside the shelter. They also have flush floor hatches that can be driven over by vehicles that are easily disguised on a garage floor with drip pans or carpet. Patio or garden entrances offer other benefits in a hatch such as view ports.

8) Shelter Air System

You must insure that you have the ability to bring in fresh air and filter the air for different circumstances. Your air system needs to be protected with devices such as blast valves (they will keep concussions from hammering you with pressure waves while you are inside the shelter), overpressure or positive pressure valves. Your snorkel lines need to be plumbed with galvanized schedule 40 steel minimum to withstand earth movement. You system should have battery and manual back up. You should calculate the number and kinds of filters you need to have on hand. Plan how you will terminate your outside snorkels. They can be placed in a rock pot or they can be brought up and turned over and look like oil tank vents.

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

Since: Sep 09

In Your Head

#5 Jan 4, 2013
9) Emergency Escape System

You never want you bunker to be your coffin, so make certain you have an emergency escape. It does not have to be a separate entrance although I can be, but they cost more money. You can hide an emergency exit in a sand filled hole. You drain the sand into the bunker to open it. Or you can make sure the system you buy has the ability to hydraulically lift the hatch and whatever else might be parked on you up.

10) Top Things To Have In Your Shelter

1) Dependable air supply and filters

2) Water!!

3) Food Reserves

4) Sanitation Necessities

5) Communication Systems

6) Emergency Exit Plan to Leave the Shelter and the Area

7) Self Defense Tools

8) First Aid Supplies

9) Items to keep people occupied. Small games, card games and dice games are good. Bibles or books to read. Chores and duties for people to perform. Fighting boredom may determine how long people are willing to put up with such restricted conditions.

10)Batteries! and lots of them. Protected in a Faraday cage.

(*American Preppers Network)

Manchester, KY

#6 Jan 4, 2013
the most important thing you could have in your bunker would be a picture of jimmy rants

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