Grays Knob Cemetery
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FamilySeeker

United States

#1 Jun 27, 2010
Is the old Clem Cemetery at Grays Knob on private property? I've heard that it is now owned by a coal company and that family members must get permission from the company to visit graves. True or not?
I live out of State and need to know. Thank you.

Sophies Ganny

Since: Mar 10

Kentucky

#2 Jun 27, 2010
FamilySeeker wrote:
Is the old Clem Cemetery at Grays Knob on private property? I've heard that it is now owned by a coal company and that family members must get permission from the company to visit graves. True or not?
I live out of State and need to know. Thank you.
Is it the one on the road where Clyde Bennetts mine where. We used to call it slick rock. I cant say for a fact but how can someone other than the family own a Graveyard. I was thinking before you can establish a graveyard the property has to be set aside and never sold again.I do not know for sure but friends of mine could not bury their son at home because they did not have a clear title for their property at the time.
Some one check into this.
Family Seeker

United States

#3 Jun 27, 2010
This cemetery has been on Grays Knob since the late 1700's or early 1800's. There are probably more than 200 grave sites up there, many of them unmarked, including at least three known Civil War veterans.

I don't know the laws governing cemetery ownership in Kentucky, but A friend who visited recently said that the road going up there is now on private property. He also said the road is marked with "No Trespassing" signs, and visitors are required to get permission before visiting the graves of their family members.

Sophies Ganny

Since: Mar 10

Kentucky

#4 Jun 27, 2010
Family Seeker wrote:
This cemetery has been on Grays Knob since the late 1700's or early 1800's. There are probably more than 200 grave sites up there, many of them unmarked, including at least three known Civil War veterans.
I don't know the laws governing cemetery ownership in Kentucky, but A friend who visited recently said that the road going up there is now on private property. He also said the road is marked with "No Trespassing" signs, and visitors are required to get permission before visiting the graves of their family members.
That just does not sound right and if it is right it sure does not sound fair.
If it is the one I am thinking of it was the road was a strip job but the grave yard should not be private. How can someone make a family graveyard privately owned?
unfair

Baxter, KY

#5 Jun 27, 2010
that is what i'm saying!

Sophies Ganny

Since: Mar 10

Kentucky

#6 Jun 27, 2010
unfair wrote:
that is what i'm saying!
I just find it hard to believe someone can keep you off of a family gravesite. I'm trying to reach a friend of mine whos brother is burried up there. I would be raising hell with someone over that because who are you supposed to get permission from to go up there? I always just assumed graveyards were to a certain point public property.
I mean why bury your relitives somewhere you cant go see any time you want to?
My heart goes out to you over this because I just dont think that seems fair, or right. I have looked all over the internet for some kind of answer but for some reason my computer is having a blonde day and cant figure out what I want it to find for me. I'm looking for graveyards and it keeps taking me to ancester sites.
Family Seeker

United States

#7 Jun 27, 2010
If it's true that the Grays Knob Cemetery is located on private property, I'll be sure to visit during business hours so I can get permission first.
I'd like to decorate a Veteran's grave site for July 4th without having to worry about getting shot for trespassing.
Thanks for the response, Sophies Ganny.
Momma D

Harlan, KY

#8 Jun 27, 2010
Family Seeker wrote:
If it's true that the Grays Knob Cemetery is located on private property, I'll be sure to visit during business hours so I can get permission first.
I'd like to decorate a Veteran's grave site for July 4th without having to worry about getting shot for trespassing.
Thanks for the response, Sophies Ganny.
Family Seeker I think I know which graveyard you are talkin about and it is where you cut off on Bennett's property then pass that up then there is a fork in the road that is where the sign is saying no trespassing but it is referring to the left fork. The right fork is where you go to the graveyard, it is a gravel road first cut-off on the left is the graveyard. The sign is talking about a mining storage building down that left fork.Hope this helps you!
Family Seeker

United States

#9 Jun 27, 2010
Thank you Momma D. That sounds like the same place. I know Its just off hwy. 421 and I remember having to drive through a construction yard to get there, but its been a long time since I've been there.
anon

Harlan, KY

#10 Jun 27, 2010
I am not sure who's property its on but I have lived near there all my life and have never heard of anyone having to get permission to go up there for any kind of funeral or visitation. I don't know who takes care of it, but its not on the mine property its past it. I do know if you go too far there are some people named Farmer that live past it that aren't too friendly with trespassers. But the Bennett's don't give anyone any trouble about it. Its a county road.

Sophies Ganny

Since: Mar 10

Kentucky

#11 Jun 27, 2010
anon wrote:
I am not sure who's property its on but I have lived near there all my life and have never heard of anyone having to get permission to go up there for any kind of funeral or visitation. I don't know who takes care of it, but its not on the mine property its past it. I do know if you go too far there are some people named Farmer that live past it that aren't too friendly with trespassers. But the Bennett's don't give anyone any trouble about it. Its a county road.
Hyman Farmer,,, Is he still up there? Wasn't his sister married to Jose Rodriguez? Those Paces who lived on up there past the tipple where are they now? I used to know all of them and the Rodriguezes. Johnny and Teressa mostly then later on I got to know David.
KAR

Pineville, KY

#12 Jun 28, 2010
My family is the majority of that grave yard on the right side. We have never had to have permission. The no Tresspassing signs were posted to keep the drug heads and the teenages that were abusing the property to stay away. It didnt work. We dont know who posted the signs, but if u have a family member or friend you r more than welcome to visit anytime without permission. Most of the families even go to mow the grass and clean off the graves at least once a week so theirs usually someone up their a coulpe times a week. And the paces are my family too. I am on the Smith side, the Paces that live up their are my aunt and uncle, and their still up their doing good.
anon

Harlan, KY

#13 Jun 28, 2010
Sophies Ganny wrote:
<quoted text>Hyman Farmer,,, Is he still up there? Wasn't his sister married to Jose Rodriguez? Those Paces who lived on up there past the tipple where are they now? I used to know all of them and the Rodriguezes. Johnny and Teressa mostly then later on I got to know David.
The Farmers and Rodriguezes are still there, but one of the Paces sold to Chris Allen, i think the rest r still there. Whichever one lived on top of the hill sold.

Sophies Ganny

Since: Mar 10

Kentucky

#14 Jun 28, 2010
anon wrote:
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The Farmers and Rodriguezes are still there, but one of the Paces sold to Chris Allen, i think the rest r still there. Whichever one lived on top of the hill sold.
Arnolds boys David, Catfish and Scott, and Hyman was Arnolds also. Someone posted Donna was in Tenn. Then there was that Gross man lived in the back on top of the hill Oscar? Arnolds Brother??? lived below him and his boy Roger and Debbie?? lived below him next to the railroad tracks.

Sophies Ant

Since: May 10

Kentucky

#15 Jul 1, 2010
Sophies Ganny wrote:
<quoted text>Arnolds boys David, Catfish and Scott, and Hyman was Arnolds also. Someone posted Donna was in Tenn. Then there was that Gross man lived in the back on top of the hill Oscar? Arnolds Brother??? lived below him and his boy Roger and Debbie?? lived below him next to the railroad tracks.
Are they talking about the graveyard in Upper Camp or the one behind Ruth Clems? I asked Mammam and she said that Pa used to take Robert hunting up there around that one... said it was on top of a knoll way up above Ruths...
Little me

Hermitage, TN

#16 Jul 2, 2010
I don't think the one behind the Clem's, and Moore's is on private property. As far as I know the other cemetery where the Farmers Halls and Clems are buried is not private propery.

There is one on up the road behind or in that area where Jerry Metcalf's family own and it is private.
A friend had a hassle a few years back, because she wanted to put flowers on a family member. I know she went to the cemetery above Hosa's this year and there was nothing said. She lives out of state and I don't believe she even went to the Metcalf cemetery this year.
Family Seeker

United States

#17 Jul 2, 2010
Little me wrote:
As far as I know the other cemetery where the Farmers Halls and Clems are buried is not private propery.
This is the cemetery to which I was referring in my original post. My people are Halls and Clems, so it has to be the same one! Thank you for clarifying this, "little Me".

Sophies Ganny

Since: Mar 10

Kentucky

#18 Jul 4, 2010
Family Seeker wrote:
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This is the cemetery to which I was referring in my original post. My people are Halls and Clems, so it has to be the same one! Thank you for clarifying this, "little Me".
You and Little Me may have the same relitives.... Little Me ????
Little me

Hermitage, TN

#19 Jul 5, 2010
Yes, most Halls and Clems are related. Halls to Halls and Clems to Clems. I am related to some Clems through the Farmer side.
Nikki

Harlan, KY

#20 Jul 10, 2010
Wow, sophie's granny.. I've always heard my dad call that place slick rock. My great grandparents, Robert and Sally Shepherd are buried up there. Never heard anything about it being on private property though.

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