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“"South of Southern”

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#1 Nov 13, 2012
Daniel Wetter is just 16 years old, but his plan to support pizza chain Papa John’s amid a backlash of liberal criticism is no pie-in-the-sky idea.

Wetter is part of an upstart group called Rebooting America that is proposing that Friday be a national day of appreciation for the pizza chain, whose chief executive officer is being attacked for saying employees’ hours might be cut to cover the cost of implementing their health insurance under ObamaCare.

The conservative group has hatched a social media-based campaign that centers on encouraging people to buy a pizza pie at a Papa John’s store, taking a photo of the outing and then posting it on a Facebook page or tweeting it.

“We just wanted to stand with Papa John’s because it is under attack,” said Wetter, who volunteered with Mitt Romney's campaign and credits fellow conservative activist Justen Charters with coming up with the idea.

Wetter said Monday the Facebook appreciation page went up Sunday night and almost immediately got 1,000 supporters.

Papa John's founder and CEO John H. Schnatter said after Election Day that franchise owners might have to cut hours because the health care law requires companies with more than 50 employees to provide insurance for those working at least 30 hours. He also estimated the law will cost the company $5 million to $8 million more annually.

Other companies, such as Olive Garden and Applebee’s, also have faced criticism and threats of boycotts for voicing similar concerns.

Supporters of the Affordable Care Act more recently pounced on comments by New York-area Applebee's franchisee Zane Tankel, who told Fox Business that cost increases related to implementing ObamaCare might force a halt to expansion and additional hiring. Critics appear to have interpreted Tankel’s comments to mean he will lay off employees as a result of the changes.

Wetter said he hopes the activism will move beyond the appreciation day for Papa John's.

“This is not just about Friday or one group,” said Wetter, adding he already was a fan of Papa John’s.“I just had some pizza yesterday, and I’m going to have some more Friday.”

The other elements of the plan call for supporters to “like" Papa John's Facebook page and buy an extra pizza Friday “to share with someone that is struggling right now,” such as a neighbor who lost a job.

“There's more than one religion”

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#2 Nov 13, 2012
rawtruth wrote:
Daniel Wetter is just 16 years old, but his plan to support pizza chain Papa John’s amid a backlash of liberal criticism is no pie-in-the-sky idea.
Wetter is part of an upstart group called Rebooting America that is proposing that Friday be a national day of appreciation for the pizza chain, whose chief executive officer is being attacked for saying employees’ hours might be cut to cover the cost of implementing their health insurance under ObamaCare.
The conservative group has hatched a social media-based campaign that centers on encouraging people to buy a pizza pie at a Papa John’s store, taking a photo of the outing and then posting it on a Facebook page or tweeting it.
“We just wanted to stand with Papa John’s because it is under attack,” said Wetter, who volunteered with Mitt Romney's campaign and credits fellow conservative activist Justen Charters with coming up with the idea.
Wetter said Monday the Facebook appreciation page went up Sunday night and almost immediately got 1,000 supporters.
Papa John's founder and CEO John H. Schnatter said after Election Day that franchise owners might have to cut hours because the health care law requires companies with more than 50 employees to provide insurance for those working at least 30 hours. He also estimated the law will cost the company $5 million to $8 million more annually.
Other companies, such as Olive Garden and Applebee’s, also have faced criticism and threats of boycotts for voicing similar concerns.
Supporters of the Affordable Care Act more recently pounced on comments by New York-area Applebee's franchisee Zane Tankel, who told Fox Business that cost increases related to implementing ObamaCare might force a halt to expansion and additional hiring. Critics appear to have interpreted Tankel’s comments to mean he will lay off employees as a result of the changes.
Wetter said he hopes the activism will move beyond the appreciation day for Papa John's.
“This is not just about Friday or one group,” said Wetter, adding he already was a fan of Papa John’s.“I just had some pizza yesterday, and I’m going to have some more Friday.”
The other elements of the plan call for supporters to “like" Papa John's Facebook page and buy an extra pizza Friday “to share with someone that is struggling right now,” such as a neighbor who lost a job.
And yet again, more riling up people over NOTHING.

What percentage of "small businesses" employ 50+ employees and would thus be subject to Obamacare? 3.5%

John Schnatter has political ambitions, have no doubt about it - as evidenced by constantly making no-brainers (such as $0.15/pizza increases) a rallying cry for those opposed to Obamacare.

“"South of Southern”

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#3 Nov 13, 2012
Apple At Cha wrote:
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And yet again, more riling up people over NOTHING.
What percentage of "small businesses" employ 50+ employees and would thus be subject to Obamacare? 3.5%
John Schnatter has political ambitions, have no doubt about it - as evidenced by constantly making no-brainers (such as $0.15/pizza increases) a rallying cry for those opposed to Obamacare.
3.5 % in a country the size of the U.S is a heck of a lot of people.

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#4 Nov 13, 2012
rawtruth wrote:
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3.5 % in a country the size of the U.S is a heck of a lot of people.
Considering that is 3.5% of small businesses(and not 3.5% of the population), and the average small business has approximately 10 employees, I disagree. If the business is doing well enough one can hire 50 employees, it should be big enough to care for its employees.

And let's not forget not all of that 3.5% is complaining or looking for ways around the law. This those complaining are likely much less than that 3.5%. Further, given that small businesses employ half of all private sector employees, that impact is further lessened.

It is quite funny that when it comes to business, you would complain about 3.5% affected as a "major issue." But when it comes to other issues affecting other populations, you would dismiss a 3.5% impact as not worth dealing with.
For example voting rights for Latinos, civil rights for LGBT persons, the income disparity between men/women (which is an even greater percentage).

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#5 Nov 13, 2012
Here is another interesting fact:

"A Kaiser Family Foundation study confirmed the connection between firm size and offering health insurance. The survey shows that about half of businesses with 3–9 workers offer health benefits to their employees. The ratio grows to about three-fourths for firms with 10–24 employees, to almost 90 percent for firms with 25–49 employees, and to 98 percent for firms with 200 employees or more. Almost two-thirds of workers take health insurance coverage when offered. Overall in 2008, small firm employees were almost twice as likely as large firm employees to be uninsured (25.1 percent vs. 13.6 percent, respectively).

Source: Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust, Employer Health Benefits 2010 Annual Survey; Employee Benefit Research Institute, Sources of Health Insurance and Characteristics of the Uninsured: Analysis of the March 2009 Current Population Survey."

Seems that 50 employee threshold is where the big gap is. So explain if those businesses smaller than 50 employees can afford to offer health insurance, why can't the larger ones?
thirdwurldamerik a

Manchester, KY

#6 Nov 13, 2012
as usual you obozoites will go to any length to defend your massa, you talm about the income disparity between men and wimmin lets just look at the diffirence in the white house staff, not to mention the fact that this clown you call a president has never held a public job, you people are beyong reprehensible i dont care about illegal messigans or LGBT let em pay for their own aides infested lifestyles
thirdwurldamerik a

Manchester, KY

#7 Nov 13, 2012
voting rights for illegals is what cost americans this election you doofus
IND

Hyden, KY

#8 Nov 13, 2012
no the american voter's voted the repub's out, the dem's in.America did not loose the election, they gained their nation back, from bunch anti American actives. that's what makes this nation great the worlds super power of the world .and it will stay that way.long live America.the USA.

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

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#9 Nov 13, 2012
rawtruth wrote:
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3.5 % in a country the size of the U.S is a heck of a lot of people.
So is 61,907,639 votes that kept Obama in office.

It's real hard for me to feel sorry for a man, a maggot, who owns a house that is over 40,000 square feet in size.

That man is the owner of Papa's Pizza.

Pi$$ on him!!!!! His pizza sux to begin with.
For Real

Harlan, KY

#10 Nov 13, 2012
Apple At Cha wrote:
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Considering that is 3.5% of small businesses(and not 3.5% of the population), and the average small business has approximately 10 employees, I disagree. If the business is doing well enough one can hire 50 employees, it should be big enough to care for its employees.
And let's not forget not all of that 3.5% is complaining or looking for ways around the law. This those complaining are likely much less than that 3.5%. Further, given that small businesses employ half of all private sector employees, that impact is further lessened.
It is quite funny that when it comes to business, you would complain about 3.5% affected as a "major issue." But when it comes to other issues affecting other populations, you would dismiss a 3.5% impact as not worth dealing with.
For example voting rights for Latinos, civil rights for LGBT persons, the income disparity between men/women (which is an even greater percentage).
It's not the fact of ONLY 3.5% of small business' are affected. I don't care if 0.01% are. How much risk do employees take? What hand does the government have in it? Isn't a guy just giving you a job enough? What makes you think he owes you more! Sorry about using the pronoun he even though it is grammatically correct.
For Real

Harlan, KY

#11 Nov 13, 2012
Jimmy Rants wrote:
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So is 61,907,639 votes that kept Obama in office.
It's real hard for me to feel sorry for a man, a maggot, who owns a house that is over 40,000 square feet in size.
That man is the owner of Papa's Pizza.
Pi$$ on him!!!!! His pizza sux to begin with.
He built the business took all the risk. Why do you vilify the rich? I would like a 40000 sq ft home. Really it is a castle and has a working moat!
For Real

Harlan, KY

#12 Nov 13, 2012
Jimmy Rants wrote:
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So is 61,907,639 votes that kept Obama in office.
It's real hard for me to feel sorry for a man, a maggot, who owns a house that is over 40,000 square feet in size.
That man is the owner of Papa's Pizza.
Pi$$ on him!!!!! His pizza sux to begin with.
Jimmy quit listening to that bleeding heart wuss Thom Thompson. Current television is propaganda.

Anyway Walmart the USAs largest employer set plans in motion years ago to get around this communist ploy..

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

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#13 Nov 13, 2012
For Real wrote:
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He built the business took all the risk. Why do you vilify the rich? I would like a 40000 sq ft home. Really it is a castle and has a working moat!
It's still where he calls home.

Maybe not. Perhaps the Venture Capitalist took all of the risk, or those who bought into the franchise.

Do you take the position he should pay less tax than the coal miner, or Walmart Greeter? Do you think he has to worry about health care?

If he gets boycotted, he just might have to sell is castle.

I hope so.

“Use Your Prepper Sense”

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#14 Nov 13, 2012
is = his
For Real

Harlan, KY

#15 Nov 14, 2012
Here is a full list of companies projecting cutbacks or layoffs; Olive Garden, red lobster, Carl jr., Hardee's, papa johns, white castles and Denny's. all because of Obamacare.

“"South of Southern”

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#16 Nov 14, 2012
Jimmy Rants wrote:
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So is 61,907,639 votes that kept Obama in office.
It's real hard for me to feel sorry for a man, a maggot, who owns a house that is over 40,000 square feet in size.
That man is the owner of Papa's Pizza.
Pi$$ on him!!!!! His pizza sux to begin with.
PPPSSSTTT

No it was NOT the owner of Pap Johns Pizza. It was lady who owned a small Papa Johns Pizza franchised restaurant.

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#17 Nov 14, 2012
Apple At Cha wrote:
Here is another interesting fact:
"A Kaiser Family Foundation study confirmed the connection between firm size and offering health insurance. The survey shows that about half of businesses with 3–9 workers offer health benefits to their employees. The ratio grows to about three-fourths for firms with 10–24 employees, to almost 90 percent for firms with 25–49 employees, and to 98 percent for firms with 200 employees or more. Almost two-thirds of workers take health insurance coverage when offered. Overall in 2008, small firm employees were almost twice as likely as large firm employees to be uninsured (25.1 percent vs. 13.6 percent, respectively).
Source: Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust, Employer Health Benefits 2010 Annual Survey; Employee Benefit Research Institute, Sources of Health Insurance and Characteristics of the Uninsured: Analysis of the March 2009 Current Population Survey."
Seems that 50 employee threshold is where the big gap is. So explain if those businesses smaller than 50 employees can afford to offer health insurance, why can't the larger ones?
Jerk out all the nice little liberal biased reports, charts, graphs, studies you like. But Obamacare WILL cost thousands upon thousands of jobs Wait and see!

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#18 Nov 14, 2012
thirdwurldamerika wrote:
voting rights for illegals is what cost americans this election you doofus
Illegals can't vote. Citizens can. I think all the tea has made someone's brain incontinent

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#19 Nov 14, 2012
For Real wrote:
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It's not the fact of ONLY 3.5% of small business' are affected. I don't care if 0.01% are. How much risk do employees take? What hand does the government have in it? Isn't a guy just giving you a job enough? What makes you think he owes you more! Sorry about using the pronoun he even though it is grammatically correct.
So in other words, you should accept whatever crappy conditions an employer gives you because you should be grateful just to have a job? I don't think so. If that is the case, do you want OSHA disbanded so they can make you work in whatever unsafe conditions they want?

It is a valid analogy. There are many areas which control what an employer has to do with regards to employees. File taxes, provide safe work environment, pay a minimum wage, keep from discriminating based on race, religion, nationality, or sex, Provide reasonable accomodations for the disabled. The list goes on. And most of these are a cost to the employer except nondiscrimination. Healthcare offering is just an additional requirement.

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#20 Nov 14, 2012
rawtruth wrote:
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Jerk out all the nice little liberal biased reports, charts, graphs, studies you like. But Obamacare WILL cost thousands upon thousands of jobs Wait and see!
Facts are facts. Dismissing them as "liberal" is a convenient way to ignore reality. See how well that worked out for Conservatives this election cycle?

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