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disagree

Jonesville, VA

#22 Feb 1, 2013
Sick of dopeheads wrote:
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I agree 110%!!
I have no problem with people who take medication who need it but sadly when you have true debilitating pain after awhile nothing helps. But I think you are doing the best thing by taking your meds how they work best for you to keep from building a tolerance. I have pain every day also but I know it does not come close or compare to yours. I don't want anyone to think I am judging people who need their meds. I am talking about the ones that hurt others.
harlan man

Macon, GA

#23 Feb 1, 2013
Good God dam I was not saying it was every ones reason for doing drugs I was just saying think be for you say something about some people that might be the reason for them to escape what was troubling them,but you people in harlan can't under stand a dam thing all you all want to do is run your dam mouth about every one.
Tin Man

United States

#24 Feb 1, 2013
harlan man wrote:
Good God dam I was not saying it was every ones reason for doing drugs I was just saying think be for you say something about some people that might be the reason for them to escape what was troubling them,but you people in harlan can't under stand a dam thing all you all want to do is run your dam mouth about every one.
Hey guy you started this thread thereby opening up a discussion. Right or wrong people answered and told how they felt as well as their experiences on this subject. I don't believe names were mentioned just dealings we have had with pos druggies! Since you are so mad it leads on to believe either you are one or are an enabler to one. Go try to sale some ice to an Eskimo!
Trouble

Mayfield, KY

#25 Feb 1, 2013
Exactly how am I defending the lifestyle? I gave my opinion and what happened to me in my life! Before that night I had never touched the first drug or drink! He almost destroyed me and as I stated before I would give every drug in the world to take that one event back! It totally and utterly changed who I was. And honestly it makes me wonder why that offends you so bad! Seriously are you a rapist or child molester? Does it offend you because your actively destroying someones life? How does it feel to be called something your not, pretty insulting huh? I have nothing to prove to you, I live my life to fullest, enjoying every day sober because I wasted years not. The only people have I to prove my self to is to my loved ones! And myself, I don't want to live a dogs life anymore, I wake up every single day looking into two faces that gives me the strength and will to stay sober. Sexual abuse and rape is rampant in this area and this problem does need addressed and addressed openly to prevent others from going down the same path I went. And people like you are exactly the reason people don't come out about sexual abuse and rape! They're going untreated for a crippling occurance that will lead to serious problems and possibly destroy them because they are to ashamed and broken by what some sick f*ck done to them! And whether some haughty prick like yourself is going to accuse them of lying or just "starting drama". Not an excuse just the plain truth. And you live thru what I've lived thru then you have the right to sit and judge me! I bet you wouldn't come out as perfectly as you would like to think you would! The thread started asking that very question, I didn't get on here starting "drama" as you say, for attention, or pity, or to excuse anyone of anything, I told my personal experience. So you can take your holier than tho pissy ass attitude of yours and shove it up your azz.
Trouble

Mayfield, KY

#26 Feb 1, 2013
And since this is an open discussion, then why is it that everyone that doesn't agree with you a drug addict or an enabler? Talking about calling others names! Pick up a book and read it, there is life crippling events that happens to people that shatters them. Everyone is not the same, things impact people differently! Just because someone doesn't agree or side with you, your automatically degrading them!
Tin Man

United States

#27 Feb 1, 2013
Trouble wrote:
And since this is an open discussion, then why is it that everyone that doesn't agree with you a drug addict or an enabler? Talking about calling others names! Pick up a book and read it, there is life crippling events that happens to people that shatters them. Everyone is not the same, things impact people differently! Just because someone doesn't agree or side with you, your automatically degrading them!
I don't care if someone agrees with me or not this jack wagon got all offensive because we did not agree with their view. This to me makes it clear that they only wanted people to agree with them and only them. So therefore one could concluded they were trying to justify something or someone. Like I said earlier there are some people that probably turned to drugs because of traumatic events just as you have said. But I know more that have been sexually abused that did not vs the ones who did.. Everyone has a choice and you're not going to get a pitty party from me because you chose poorly due to certain events. Life is hard no doubt but you have to just bare down and deal with it good or bad.
Sick of dopeheads

Harlan, KY

#28 Feb 1, 2013
I think it's a sad, pathetic shame what that man done to you. Rape is a violent crime and it changes who ppl are. I'm not blaming you for how you reacted. I have never been raped and don't know how awful that has to be. I can imagine but I know my imagination doesn't come close to the true torture it is.
My advice to you is, stop playing the victim. Now before you blow up what I mean by that is you are a survivor. You came out of a violent situation alive. You made it further than a lot of victims who die at the hands of their rapist. You have to fight to move forward. You could help a lot of victims by sharing your story. Maybe you can prevent some of them from turning to drugs. You can't turn rape into a positive situation but you can turn how you deal with it into a positive. The drugs were your excape, you couldn't handle your pain. The rape was not your fault period, but how you chose to deal with it is.
Trouble

Mayfield, KY

#29 Feb 1, 2013
I posted from the very first post that I regretted "my choice" everyday. I was the one who made that choice. Reread my post. And someone posted after that I was lying and using it as an excuse, which is why I blowup. I told my story hoping to help someone, not to be attacked and called a liar. And if you don't agree with me, that's fine, but being called a liar kinda pisses me off. Especially when it comes to this situation. I stopped throwing a pity party 4 yrs ago, when I was finally so sick of the drug life, regardless of what you think its not a fun life. It took me two tries to get it, but I got it and have been clean for 3 yrs. I don't play the victim, I just told you what it done to me.I could go in detail, but I'm not looking for sympathy. When I say it shattered me, it did just that. I was a good kid, with determination an drive. I wasn't into the partying crap. I was getting out of here. And I worked on that by doing the best I could in school. What the rape left behind was a very lost soul, confused, hurt, and destroyed. My mind was a mess, I was beyond metally unstable. It changed me. I would not have went down that road, if the rape never happened. I'm not asking for your pity, but that's the fact. And I'm not trying to justify anything, but your going to believe what you want and I'm done arguing.
disagree

Jonesville, VA

#30 Feb 1, 2013
Trouble wrote:
Exactly how am I defending the lifestyle? I gave my opinion and what happened to me in my life! Before that night I had never touched the first drug or drink! He almost destroyed me and as I stated before I would give every drug in the world to take that one event back! It totally and utterly changed who I was. And honestly it makes me wonder why that offends you so bad! Seriously are you a rapist or child molester? Does it offend you because your actively destroying someones life? How does it feel to be called something your not, pretty insulting huh? I have nothing to prove to you, I live my life to fullest, enjoying every day sober because I wasted years not. The only people have I to prove my self to is to my loved ones! And myself, I don't want to live a dogs life anymore, I wake up every single day looking into two faces that gives me the strength and will to stay sober. Sexual abuse and rape is rampant in this area and this problem does need addressed and addressed openly to prevent others from going down the same path I went. And people like you are exactly the reason people don't come out about sexual abuse and rape! They're going untreated for a crippling occurance that will lead to serious problems and possibly destroy them because they are to ashamed and broken by what some sick f*ck done to them! And whether some haughty prick like yourself is going to accuse them of lying or just "starting drama". Not an excuse just the plain truth. And you live thru what I've lived thru then you have the right to sit and judge me! I bet you wouldn't come out as perfectly as you would like to think you would! The thread started asking that very question, I didn't get on here starting "drama" as you say, for attention, or pity, or to excuse anyone of anything, I told my personal experience. So you can take your holier than tho pissy ass attitude of yours and shove it up your azz.
You are the very one who started the name calling. All I said at first to you was that it was BS that 70% of addicts start using because of abuse....if you want to know whats the closer to the truth one way they get started by other druggies who need someone to give them a ride and cash to help hunt drugs,they don't care who's lives they ruin. Sometimes they get started by their parents,yes parents share drugs with their children. Men sell their wives for drugs and even worse. There is nothing most addicts won't do once their addiction takes hold.
miss ME

Baxter, KY

#31 Feb 1, 2013
i have been affected by addiction in more ways than i can count on one hand, and when sober, an addict is no diffrent than any other member of productive society..... it is the addicts who are using that are causing any issues to society.....i just think that that clarification should be made... there is a diffrence in an addict and a using addict many more than one in fact .
once an addict is sober they are still until their dying day an addict and it is a struggle for them to stay clean and sober every day for the rest of their lives but there are quite a few who do and who are wonderful people and become advocates for treatment .....rehab works for addicts who truely want to be clean and sober but until someone has a desire to be sober for themselves nothing and no one can help them. making assumptions, excuses, or babying them is doing more harm than good ...do NOT enable an addict: i say this for the good of the person involved, if and when they do get clean they will on some level always resent you for this.... because instead of worrying about doing what is in their best intrest and forcing them to see how important it is to seek help, you are making the addictive behavior okay.
this is not to say not to be supportive there is a very big diffrence in the two, be honest with the person about how the addiction is affecting everyone involved in your situation them included, how it is changing their personality, behavior and decision making and offer to help them to seek the counseling, rehab, or other assistance they need to get clean.
their are many programs offered to help people with low or no income seek the treatment they need to lead a happy healthy and productive life....
contact, comp. care, the hope center, right choice counseling, New beginings in dryden VA , or operation UNITE for assistance to get treatment to not only detox safely but to learn to live your life as a sober addict.
disagree

Jonesville, VA

#32 Feb 1, 2013
Very well put. New Beginings in Dryden shut down though. There are also Narcotics Anon meetings also.
foxie

London, KY

#33 Feb 3, 2013
well I have been trying to help someone on drugs, someone I loved very much ....but they only love DRUGS...it was hard so I had to give up ...he would lie about everything steal from me and I am also taking care of his children ( not mine) because his own family refused, but they give to him ..he gets his drugs bout the first week of every mo. that he sells or gives away , then steals and begs for his habit, I have a warrent for him and also does several other people and hes running from the police , I have told every police dept around and sent photos of the blue windstar van he is driving and he has never been picked up and this man is also getting SSI and food card when he should be in jail ...and guess what we that work pays for all his drugs food and spending money that he buys more drugs from oh his name is Kenneth Wayne Clem , from Cawood,
addicted

United States

#34 Feb 4, 2013
For one thing i don't blame anyone, or use excuses. I am an dopehead. But i take care of my family first. I don't steal, lie,or sell myself. I hold a job. Yes alot of dopeheads make all kinds of excuses. They rob,cheat an lie. All kinds of messed up things. But you can't put everyone in one category. People have problems,who are any of you to say anything. An to the one that thinks Doctors taper you down. You have alot to learn. It sounds to me you have never, had any kind of problem in your life. Or more likely you are a self centered piece of work.

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