Members to discuss illegal tire dumpi...

Members to discuss illegal tire dumping issue

There are 51 comments on the Killeen Daily Herald story from May 4, 2010, titled Members to discuss illegal tire dumping issue. In it, Killeen Daily Herald reports that:

From staff reports Killeen City Council members are slated to discuss potential solutions to illegal tire dumping, a problem that has surfaced in various areas of the city.

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Retired 1SG

Belton, TX

#21 May 6, 2010
LOL. Shortchange, you should spend more time on Cove's forum.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#22 May 6, 2010
Retired 1SG wrote:
LOL. Shortchange, you should spend more time on Cove's forum.
So that some of the cove people can be mad at me too?

At least I can honestly say that I have not personally seen a single Cove nor Heights Officer whine about their job.

I just think it's wrong to be employed and then whine about the job(but do nothing about it)to the outside world. Many employees have no clue about whats going on above their pay grade. Usually thats because the bosses are wheeling and dealing in secret waiting for the deal to be done before revealing it to others.

Like pay raises. No one sees the boss shouting out "I think you possibly, MIGHT, someday, get a raise because more revenue came in than was expected!"

No, the boss takes his cut first and then when the finance dept says it's ok to distribute the rest after their take, then the announcement is made. But until that time, you'll still see some of the employees gripe about not getting paid enough during that process or they complain about not having enough equipment because they want 5 radios, 4 laptops, 3 cell phones, 2 cars to ride in, and a partridge in a pear tree to make them feel better about themselves.

I know, my ramblings have gone around the bend and back several time. But to get back on track, Yes there are more important things than tires but if people are conserned, we can ticket property owners unless they provide proof that someone else is doing the dumping and have them clean up or face liens on their property. I have not heard what the council's solution was but i can almost bet it was not as simple as my suggestion.
Violater

Killeen, TX

#23 May 6, 2010
I think we can cut out code enforcement and save a buck, not like their doing the job they were hired to do.
Hunto

Kempner, TX

#24 May 6, 2010
shortchange wrote:
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I'm not. I never said I was against that nor was that part of the subject mentioned. I was just showing how quickly the topic could be resolved and let more important things take presidence. But I can tell you that the others who are extremely paranoid about big brother watching them will have an issue with trqacking tires with electronic devices.
Myself, I think putting electronic devices in tires is not a good idea because the costs involved would have to be handed down to the consumers who would not be happy with that. Tires are also made of rubber which is a maluable material and electronics do not do well embedded in soft material nor do they work well with alot of motion. Of course this is just an opinion that a system like that would probably have too much error involved with it as well and having to be controlled by the federal system in order to ensure every car had them. Any lower in the govt chain and you can't ensure that every car in the area would have these chips because in this area many are from out of state. Any lower than the state level and it would be uninforcable. Plus, technology doesn't solve everything. We need to pick and choose when to use technology. Instead of using chips, we can use video to keep an eye on the areas where illegal dumping is being done when is a current technology and it would be cheaper than having a person sitting in a car watching the property.
A serial number stamped in the ruber would do the trick. The Army used to do it I don't know if they still do it. When I was in Korea I put two new tires on my truck only to have them stolen and put on another truck in the next Mtr pool. I knew the serial numbers as I posted them in my log book. I checked all the trucks in our motor pool and the other motor pool and found them which I reported to the Camp Comander.

Since: Oct 09

Harker Heights, TX

#25 May 6, 2010
Hunto wrote:
<quoted text>A serial number stamped in the ruber would do the trick. The Army used to do it I don't know if they still do it. When I was in Korea I put two new tires on my truck only to have them stolen and put on another truck in the next Mtr pool. I knew the serial numbers as I posted them in my log book. I checked all the trucks in our motor pool and the other motor pool and found them which I reported to the Camp Comander.
That's why burning is the recommended disposal method. No serial numbers will survive.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#26 May 6, 2010
Hunto wrote:
<quoted text>A serial number stamped in the ruber would do the trick. The Army used to do it I don't know if they still do it. When I was in Korea I put two new tires on my truck only to have them stolen and put on another truck in the next Mtr pool. I knew the serial numbers as I posted them in my log book. I checked all the trucks in our motor pool and the other motor pool and found them which I reported to the Camp Comander.
Serial numbers would not work in the civilian world. Plus serial numbers would not be a local topic either because a local city would not have enough clout to mandate serial numbers on all commercially sold tires. that would most likely be a federal mandate due to all the inter state travel that is regularly done. Only then would a serial number system work. and that's not totally fool proof either.
getserious

Killeen, TX

#27 May 9, 2010
What tire dumping? I have not seen anywhere where this is a time worthy problem.
Jimmy

Waco, TX

#28 May 9, 2010
This is a Killeen problem. How it started out on the Cove blog I'll never know. Post it where it belongs.

Since: Oct 09

Harker Heights, TX

#29 May 9, 2010
Jimmy wrote:
This is a Killeen problem. How it started out on the Cove blog I'll never know. Post it where it belongs.
My 'puter has it in the Killeen forum. Maybe topix knows something about the Imperial Council's annexation plans that the rest of us don't know.
Violater

Killeen, TX

#30 May 9, 2010
I see it as Killeen also
Billy D

Waco, TX

#31 May 10, 2010
Look across from the old airport. Thousands of tires are stacking up.
Violater

Killeen, TX

#32 May 11, 2010
Now I get it. That's the location the Council wants to purchase to build a new Mall like replacement.
KilleensCorrupt

Temple, TX

#33 May 11, 2010
How impossible is it for tire stores to keep records of people who frequently consume tires from their stores? Most of these businesses have security cameras too. It can't be this difficult as most in city hall would like to make others believe. Have they ever heard of paper or computer trails?
Humpty Dumpty

Saint Petersburg, FL

#34 May 11, 2010
Hunto wrote:
<quoted text>A serial number stamped in the ruber would do the trick. The Army used to do it I don't know if they still do it. When I was in Korea I put two new tires on my truck only to have them stolen and put on another truck in the next Mtr pool. I knew the serial numbers as I posted them in my log book. I checked all the trucks in our motor pool and the other motor pool and found them which I reported to the Camp Comander.
rat snitch tattletale suck-up

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#35 May 11, 2010
KilleensCorrupt wrote:
How impossible is it for tire stores to keep records of people who frequently consume tires from their stores? Most of these businesses have security cameras too. It can't be this difficult as most in city hall would like to make others believe. Have they ever heard of paper or computer trails?
It's kind of difficult.

You have to retool all the molding material and you have to create a interchangable stamp inside the mold that won't leak or leave extra bits of rubber extruded which will need extra steps to remove during the processing of the tires.

Then the manufacturer will need extra people to process the numbers and new software will need to be designed that include the numbers. then the resalers would need extra people to process the numbers on their end.

Then there would be a need in the used tires section to deal with tracking numbers as they exchange hands.

Not to mention that when people sell their car, they will have to transfer serial numbers along with title

If you put this to paper, then that would be alot of trees cut down in order to keep track of everything.

Theres also the notion that rubber can be easily cut into. so those numbers can be removed in a matter of seconds.

Adding serial numbers making each person keep track of 4 of them will just add way too much to the bureaucracy. It would be a burden on the manufacturer, the sellers and the consumers. All that burden will ultimately end up on the consumer and i think tires are expensive as they are now. I don't want any more costs associated with them.
Billy D

Waco, TX

#36 May 12, 2010
shortchange wrote:
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I don't want any more costs associated with them.
You already are paying the extra costs associated by letting these thieves dump on City property and forcing the City to clean it up and hall it off. How about letting the tire sellers/resalers/haulers deal with it? How about letting the people that actually profit from this pay? I don't want to pay for this anymore.

Since: Oct 09

Harker Heights, TX

#37 May 12, 2010
Billy D wrote:
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You already are paying the extra costs associated by letting these thieves dump on City property and forcing the City to clean it up and hall it off. How about letting the tire sellers/resalers/haulers deal with it? How about letting the people that actually profit from this pay? I don't want to pay for this anymore.
How do you propose this be done, with a city tire sales surcharge? If the city does this how much will it add to the cost of tires in the city of Killeen? Will it collect enough to cover the cost of tire disposal? Will it cost enough to encourage folks to buy their tires elsewhere?
Violater

Killeen, TX

#38 May 12, 2010
Just what we need another un enforcable law. The city is handicapped as it is with the current leadership.
Billy D

Waco, TX

#39 May 12, 2010
Dagobert II wrote:
<quoted text> Will it cost enough to encourage folks to buy their tires elsewhere?
If the City does nothing then it will cost too much to live here with all the taxes we will have to pay to maintain clean, safe streets and property. Either way we pay.
Scruffy MacKilleen

Saint Petersburg, FL

#40 May 12, 2010
Billy D wrote:
<quoted text>
If the City does nothing then it will cost too much to live here with all the taxes we will have to pay to maintain clean, safe streets and property. Either way we pay.
People with means and funds will vacate this dump of backwater swamp.

The Army will soon downsize and the thieves and crooks that scam the military will be forced to file for bankruptcy.

Wise people will not stay in this SCRUFFY, FILTHY, garbage dump of crime, vermin, and con-artists!

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