Heights seeks changes after pit bull kills Pekingese

There are 32 comments on the Killeen Daily Herald story from Jan 18, 2009, titled Heights seeks changes after pit bull kills Pekingese. In it, Killeen Daily Herald reports that:

Woogies was killed Dec. 31. By Victor O'Brien Killeen Daily Herald HARKER HEIGHTS - One dog's death at the jaws of a loose pit bull could prompt changes in Harker Heights.

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mary

Phoenix, AZ

#1 Jan 21, 2009
they should outlaw pit bulls all together. They are a mean spirited dog.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#2 Jan 26, 2009
No it's not lets outlaw the pitbulls. Let get the owners. Pit arent mean spirited dogs. Thats a treat you have to train them to be. When the owners don't do what they are supposed to you get mean dogs. If you don't know anything about pit bulls understand one thing. Outlawing pit bulls is like banning the flying of the american flag. Hence the name american pitbull terrier. I feel sorry for the small dog but I think that the owner of the pit bull needs to be held and accountable and charged as if he or she killed the dog themselves.
Hollywood

United States

#3 Jan 27, 2009
mary wrote:
they should outlaw pit bulls all together. They are a mean spirited dog.
You know what keep your ass in California.
Hollywood

United States

#4 Jan 27, 2009
I read the article, I love how they included in the story numerous times about "schools" and the best "what if it was a baby??" Seriously? If your baby was just out in the yard you are a danger more then any dog would ever be. And how did they know the pit did it? What did they just watch it?? And they are making it like "There is nothing that can be done" Ever one ever hear of a civil suite? My advice buy a nice shot gun, and if you dont wanna do that go live in nazi california with mary.
killeen gurl

Chicago, IL

#5 Mar 10, 2009
howard crews wrote:
No it's not lets outlaw the pitbulls. Let get the owners. Pit arent mean spirited dogs. Thats a treat you have to train them to be. When the owners don't do what they are supposed to you get mean dogs. If you don't know anything about pit bulls understand one thing. Outlawing pit bulls is like banning the flying of the american flag. Hence the name american pitbull terrier. I feel sorry for the small dog but I think that the owner of the pit bull needs to be held and accountable and charged as if he or she killed the dog themselves.
I agree that it's not the pit bulls that are to blame it's HOW they are raised. BUT, if not raised properly then they can be very dangerous dogs as proven time and time again by incidents like this. Because of this I would agree with and vote for a local ban on pit bulls. I know it's not their fault but if the police can not make sure they are raised/trained properly then they should not be allowed at all for the safty of everyone including the pits.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#6 Mar 11, 2009
I understand your misguided view and with that said. Then bann all dogs. Not just the pit bulls. How many bites and incidents prior to this situation happened and didn't make the papers. Another things is that a ban is only going to things worse. There will be more pits. Yet of course thats when the police are going to have the balls to arrest people and fine them. The problem is that nobody is getting charged hard enough for these situations. So pit bual german shepard or any dog at that fact. Get rid of the pit bull and your just going to be saying this about the next dog the news and newspaper choices to single out. So I ask you and really research it. Ask darnell, scott and white. Any hospital how many dog bite case went unreported because it wasn't a pit bull. You might be shocked. So as your personal feeling may be ban them. What other dog are you willing to give up as well. Pit bulls are dangerous because the news tells you so. Pit bull are normally dangerous because of their owner. It's like having a gun. They arrest the people when they shoot somebody right? So why not arrest the owner when there dog has been deemed vicous and has killed a smaller animal or injured a child. Dog not just pit bull. Let the person sit in a fed prison for a few months. A fine is a slap on the hand. Yet federal prison changes your life. Especially when you have to explain why you were in presion. So thats my view. The media is focusing on pit bulls so everybody wants to ban them because they are being told on a constant of all the bad they do. Try thinking for yourself. experience for yourself.
killeen gurl wrote:
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I agree that it's not the pit bulls that are to blame it's HOW they are raised. BUT, if not raised properly then they can be very dangerous dogs as proven time and time again by incidents like this. Because of this I would agree with and vote for a local ban on pit bulls. I know it's not their fault but if the police can not make sure they are raised/trained properly then they should not be allowed at all for the safty of everyone including the pits.
JustMe

Waco, TX

#7 Mar 11, 2009
dat is why we needs pit bull fights so they can take deir agression out on each other and leaves the oder dogs and peoples alone.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#8 Mar 11, 2009
Dude I hope you get a rude awakening. If you can't say nothing of reallness. Then don't say nothing at all. How about this. Let see how you feel. Maybe you should go unfed for awhile. Left to the elements. with little to no human contact. Let the only way you get to eat and live is simply based on the fights you win. How about that. Trust me when I say and I mean it for all people who believe pit bull want to fight. By nature they want to please their owners. So they fight to the better end. So arss hole$$$ like you can make small little petty jokes. You know lets put all the people like you in a ring and your to live as a human being in this world would be your goal. Lets see what you would have to say after that. I believe in human rights as well as animal rights. So don't get me wrong but F&#(%ers like yourself make me on how bias you can be. Fn media puppets.
JustMe wrote:
dat is why we needs pit bull fights so they can take deir agression out on each other and leaves the oder dogs and peoples alone.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#9 Mar 11, 2009
I read the crap people say in this forum and can't believe that I fight for yall to have the freedom to mutter off at the mouth like this. Want to take my loved ones away because so irresponsible owners are always making it in the news. I can't believe this crap. This is the crap I fight for. It's really starting to seem to not be worth it.

Since: Mar 09

None ya

#10 Mar 11, 2009
howard crews wrote:
I understand your misguided view and with that said. Then bann all dogs. Not just the pit bulls. How many bites and incidents prior to this situation happened and didn't make the papers. Another things is that a ban is only going to things worse. There will be more pits. Yet of course thats when the police are going to have the balls to arrest people and fine them. The problem is that nobody is getting charged hard enough for these situations. So pit bual german shepard or any dog at that fact. Get rid of the pit bull and your just going to be saying this about the next dog the news and newspaper choices to single out. So I ask you and really research it. Ask darnell, scott and white. Any hospital how many dog bite case went unreported because it wasn't a pit bull. You might be shocked. So as your personal feeling may be ban them. What other dog are you willing to give up as well. Pit bulls are dangerous because the news tells you so. Pit bull are normally dangerous because of their owner. It's like having a gun. They arrest the people when they shoot somebody right? So why not arrest the owner when there dog has been deemed vicous and has killed a smaller animal or injured a child. Dog not just pit bull. Let the person sit in a fed prison for a few months. A fine is a slap on the hand. Yet federal prison changes your life. Especially when you have to explain why you were in presion. So thats my view. The media is focusing on pit bulls so everybody wants to ban them because they are being told on a constant of all the bad they do. Try thinking for yourself. experience for yourself.
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Seriously, if you are going to reply to something you should at least read what you are relpying to and educate yourself on the facts.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#11 Mar 12, 2009
Okay educate me. Show me the facts. What i know for a fact is that it when a pit bull is involved the media jumps on it. Yet plenty of other bites and mauling go unheard. They may even lie to sell thier papers. So unless you honestly go and investigate these situations. Your just blindly believing in the hype. The truth is that a pit bull acts out because of an irresponsible owner. Never leave you dog unattended has been the saying for years. Yet people don't follow it. They think it won't happen to me. Plus pit bull don't just snap for no reason. They have to be forced. I know I have owned and known people with pit bulls for a long time now. We can point fingers and call names but the truth is that. The owners are the cause of this situation. If you ban the pit bull your are punishing the people who are responsible with their dog because they aren't going to stop at pit bulls. German Shepards, Rotti's , Doberman, Collies, and any dog they feel is dangerous will be banned at first. Then when the media starts reporting that hey a new dog and another dog is dangerous. Then you can all bless your pretty little hearts your freedom to own a dog that you like will be taken from you. So listen to you news. They will mislead and pull your puppet strings until your affraid to leave you house,change the channel and live your life. The question is will you dance for you puppet master or will you get educated.
Oh I for got the dalmation will be on that list as well. To ban the AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER is banning a true american. This dogs ancestors came from all over the world. Yet it's home is here. From all over Europe to America the APBT is our dog. Ban the dog but your just setting yourself up for failure later. A the ban isn't going to work. Ask Austraila B their will be a growth of pitbulls and the shelter won't be able to handle it. Lastly. You may not like this be prepared for that ban list to grow each year. All of sudden there is going to be new reports on another breed and another breed until simply put. Your FREEDOM to choose the dog you want or own the a pet is revoked. Not a conspiracy theory just the truth. BAN the APBT and you are banning an TRUE AMERICAN.
killeen gurl wrote:
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Seriously, if you are going to reply to something you should at least read what you are relpying to and educate yourself on the facts.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#12 Mar 12, 2009
Wow i need to better punctuate before i summit these.

Since: Mar 09

None ya

#13 Mar 12, 2009
howard crews wrote:
Okay educate me. Show me the facts. What i know for a fact is that it when a pit bull is involved the media jumps on it. Yet plenty of other bites and mauling go unheard. They may even lie to sell thier papers. So unless you honestly go and investigate these situations. Your just blindly believing in the hype. The truth is that a pit bull acts out because of an irresponsible owner. Never leave you dog unattended has been the saying for years. Yet people don't follow it. They think it won't happen to me. Plus pit bull don't just snap for no reason. They have to be forced. I know I have owned and known people with pit bulls for a long time now. We can point fingers and call names but the truth is that. The owners are the cause of this situation. If you ban the pit bull your are punishing the people who are responsible with their dog because they aren't going to stop at pit bulls. German Shepards, Rotti's , Doberman, Collies, and any dog they feel is dangerous will be banned at first. Then when the media starts reporting that hey a new dog and another dog is dangerous. Then you can all bless your pretty little hearts your freedom to own a dog that you like will be taken from you. So listen to you news. They will mislead and pull your puppet strings until your affraid to leave you house,change the channel and live your life. The question is will you dance for you puppet master or will you get educated.
Oh I for got the dalmation will be on that list as well. To ban the AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER is banning a true american. This dogs ancestors came from all over the world. Yet it's home is here. From all over Europe to America the APBT is our dog. Ban the dog but your just setting yourself up for failure later. A the ban isn't going to work. Ask Austraila B their will be a growth of pitbulls and the shelter won't be able to handle it. Lastly. You may not like this be prepared for that ban list to grow each year. All of sudden there is going to be new reports on another breed and another breed until simply put. Your FREEDOM to choose the dog you want or own the a pet is revoked. Not a conspiracy theory just the truth. BAN the APBT and you are banning an TRUE AMERICAN.
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The reason we have such a problem with pit bull attacks around here is because they are raised and breed for fighting. The people who do that aren't going to do that with all those other breeds of dogs because other dogs just don't fight like pits do. But go ahead with your conspiracy theory(s) because the fact is that pits aren't being singled out. I've seen more reports of other dogs causing problems then I have pits it's just that it SEEMS like pits are being singled out because those attacks usually result in a death of another dog or a death or serious injury of a small child where the other attacks are minor and thus obviously not as big of a deal is made. It's also a proven fact that when a dog is mistreated like pits often are around here that they WILL snap for no reason and that they are nearly impossible to stop once they start unlike other dogs. AND if you would read what you are replying to you would see that I already said that it was the owners fault but that that doesn't change the facts. Obviously you don't care about any of that because you are to busy with your conspiracy theory about how everyone is out to get pits.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#14 Mar 12, 2009
I do care about the what has happened over the years. Yet all over the world it the dog fights still rage on. Even though most countries have banned the pit bull. All over the world pit bull numbers still riase. In the ban areas they are still facing maulings, and fatal and or deadly injuries. I wonder how this could be even though they have banned pit bulls. How could this be? I wonder why they are still having dog fighting problems and more pit bull after the bann then before? This can't really be happening. Pit bulls is what these guys come to see and pit bulls are what the news is saying is doing the most damage. Their the ones that are doing most of the fatal injures. The media told me that pit bulls were doing the worse damage. The media promised me that all this would change if we bann them because they were bred to fight. The kids and inocent by standers would were supposed to be safe. Well it doesn't seem to be that way in australia, scotland, and all the other places that have banned pit bulls and so called dangerous breeds. So i will keep my conspiracy theory that has been compulated by the info given to me from other people around the world. Not news or internet but people who deal with pit bull bans every day. They all say the same thing. The bans don't help they just make things worst.
killeen gurl wrote:
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The reason we have such a problem with pit bull attacks around here is because they are raised and breed for fighting. The people who do that aren't going to do that with all those other breeds of dogs because other dogs just don't fight like pits do. But go ahead with your conspiracy theory(s) because the fact is that pits aren't being singled out. I've seen more reports of other dogs causing problems then I have pits it's just that it SEEMS like pits are being singled out because those attacks usually result in a death of another dog or a death or serious injury of a small child where the other attacks are minor and thus obviously not as big of a deal is made. It's also a proven fact that when a dog is mistreated like pits often are around here that they WILL snap for no reason and that they are nearly impossible to stop once they start unlike other dogs. AND if you would read what you are replying to you would see that I already said that it was the owners fault but that that doesn't change the facts. Obviously you don't care about any of that because you are to busy with your conspiracy theory about how everyone is out to get pits.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#15 Mar 12, 2009
Media puppets look. You notice what your saying the biggest word in what you said was RAISED. Any dog can be raised and bred to fight. They have. It wasn't always the pit bull. It was the german shepard or any dog they could get their hands on. It's not about the dogs with these people. It's all about the money and carnage. Yes the pit bull that was designed to hold down a bull due to the belief that a baited bulls meat was better than normal. Yet like all dog it did to please the owner. Same as fighting. If a dog believes that the demized of the other dog will please it leader than thats what it will do. So don't feed on it was bred to fight other dogs. No it ancestory was desined to bait bulls for it's owners. When that became illegal they were put in a pit with rats and based on the amount it killed was it's worth. By a fluke situation pit bulls attacked one another during this event and people betted more money on the fight between the dogs than the rats. Then people started adding different dogs. Pits, bull mastiffs, rotti's, dalmations, shepards, yorkie's, basically any dog they could think of. Hate or love it. It's all about money. You can get rid of pits all you want but the sick minded people will just find another dog or still raise pits to do so. Yet take them off the street and you might be shocked on how things turn out. Conspiracy theory or not. The true hard facts is that the sick people who do this crap don't car what dog it is. Yet how much money they can make per fight with one maybe two dogs. So live in media land puppet. The only reason people go after the pit bull is because they are afraid to address the irresponsible owners. SO lets take on the person who can't tell them how their owner raised them. Beat them worse than the dog that won the fight. Left them in the yard with no attention but the attention give when it was time to eat. No walk to meet the dogs in the neighborhood. A pit bull can't tell you they were experience severe head aches after eating food covered in gun powder. Or how they had to listen to the screams of any brother or sister not deamed vicous enough as they were being beat to death or stuck in the ring with the veteran dogs. How the mother pit screamed in pain as she gave birth to litters after litter back to back. Yeah right now the pit bull is the fan favorite. Get rid of the dog and another breed will take it's place. So if you want something done put it on the owners. You catch a the dog fighter and give them a life sentence or 10 years of federal prison and 15 years of community service were if violated they will serve the rest of the 15 in jail. I am pretty sure that money ain't going to be worth it. It's sad but thats what it's going to take. To take their lives the way they have taken the lives of the dogs. A dog get loose from it's yard because it has had nothing better to do but figuring out how to get out. A hefty fine and a some volunteer time or jail time. I am sure that they won't let their dogs out of their sites. These are the measure needed to ensure responsibility is being taken by their owners. Then good. Other wise they won't get a dog. So hate it or love it. Yet their should be a price for irresponsibility.

Since: Mar 09

None ya

#16 Mar 13, 2009
I said it before and I'll say it again. LEARN YOUR FACTS. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are a "media puppets" it means they disagree with what you said for what ever reason. I don't even hardly watch the news anymore and yet I still know that pit bull attacks are worse then anyother dog attack because I've witnessed it with my own eyes. When you breed/raise a dog to fight to the death they do just that and that's what pits are being raised and breed for around here. It's very rare to see anyother dog raised for that in this area. Other areas which have experienced this problem and put banns in place are like here. But obviously you don't care anything about that. Learn the facts before you start trying to prove how much you know, or in this case DON'T know.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#17 Mar 14, 2009
Yes. Okay all ignorance aside. It's not that i don't care. It's because I do care. If you ban the breed more will come. Banning the breed won't stop the fights or maulings. Responsible training and efforts on the owners behalf will. These dogs like any dogs are victims of how they are raised. Arround hear they mostly choose pit bulls because it's a popular breed arround here. Yet all breeds of dogs are a victims of how they are raised. The truth is and pay attention. If a ban was to work. Then the fools that use the pit bull to fight. Will find another dog. With labs being a hunting dog, Dobermans, rotti's and G.SHepards being guard dogs. They will make perfect canidates for dog fighting. Considering at one time they were all used for fighting at one point or another. So I am saying the ban is just going to get rid of the pit bull. Yet the mauling and dog fights will continue on. So it's not that I don't care. It's that I have witness bans go horibly wrong all my life. It wasn't until they addressed the main issue that things got better. Do have an understanding now. The sick people that fight the dogs aren't going to stop because the pit bull is ban in these areas. They are going to keep fighting just with different dogs. So even though you want all this stuff to stop. Your still avoiding the big problem. The owners because instead of the pit bull being neglected now it's going to be a new breed. Killeen gurl i understand what you want to happen and that commendable. Yet like everyone else it seems you rather attack the defenseless than the people responsible for the animal. Now a manditory chipping of all dogs would help alot. If a dog is found as a stray then the owners can be found alot faster. Then held responsible for their dog. All my dogs have been chipped. If I find a dog wondering the streets because their are alot of kids arround here I will round them up and call the shelter. I mean only does the owners have to take responsibility but the comunity must do so as well.
killeen gurl wrote:
I said it before and I'll say it again. LEARN YOUR FACTS. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are a "media puppets" it means they disagree with what you said for what ever reason. I don't even hardly watch the news anymore and yet I still know that pit bull attacks are worse then anyother dog attack because I've witnessed it with my own eyes. When you breed/raise a dog to fight to the death they do just that and that's what pits are being raised and breed for around here. It's very rare to see anyother dog raised for that in this area. Other areas which have experienced this problem and put banns in place are like here. But obviously you don't care anything about that. Learn the facts before you start trying to prove how much you know, or in this case DON'T know.

Since: Mar 09

None ya

#18 Mar 14, 2009
You still don't get it and obviously never will. Nobody is attacking the defenseless. Anyway, continue with your conspiracy therorys.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#19 Mar 14, 2009
You believe that by banning the pit bulls that some of this will go away. You are obviously a gurl who have never adventured outside of the suburbs. You have never been to a real ghetto here or far. You may have witnessed an attack or two. Where I have seen everything from an attack to a dog being prepped for human consumption. So let me be the first to say. Wake up. get rid of the pit bull they'll use rotti's and actually the rotti does more damage per bit then the pit. So conspiracy theory or not. You need to wake up. Banning them will only make things worse. I say defenseless because it's the pit bulls and owners who really do love their pit bulls your hurting. Not the people that are committing the crimes. They'll move on. Yet I will continue with my conspiracy theory. When it comes to pass and your sitting their noticing a pattern remember it was me who told you so. Conspiracy theory are based on facts to could be misleading. Yet what I am saying to you is look at the places that have initiated the ban already. They are still having the same problem. Nothing change but a lot got worse. So take it for what it is. Yet don't disregard it.
killeen gurl wrote:
You still don't get it and obviously never will. Nobody is attacking the defenseless. Anyway, continue with your conspiracy therorys.

“You are your worse enemy”

Since: Mar 08

Baltimore, Maryland

#20 Mar 14, 2009
Killeen gurl while your are talking about other places. I have been to these places that have banned pit bulls. The outcome normal goes like this. The animal shelter are packed with pit bulls. The strays are mostly mixed variety of pit bulls. OH and even the law enforcement has said that the ban was a waste because the numbers of pitbulls in the county has risen. Some areas thought that the banns were good before even looking for an alternative. It's like drugs. Before they were made illegal. Their wasn't much care about them. A past time per say. Then it was made illegal. Now look at it. Lets not even talk about alcohol. It used to be banned. Hmmmmmmmm. Bans don't solve anything. Bans make things worse. Now if we start to cross breed the dog with a more docile breed. Then maybe we could help out a little. I say this. If it was against the law to create anymore pure breed pit bulls. As much as these words hurt I could understand that. That's a way to help out more than actually banning. Trust me I have seen the pictures of and have witnessed what these dogs are capable of both good or bad. Yet we do far worse to each other.

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