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Sanford
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I propose that lifers and long-time residents of this area who do not subscribe to the 'insider-outsider' mentality form an alliance and include newer arrivals who have a community spirit; and that together we get some ideas on the table that will help this area stay alive and thriving without hurting the environment or bringing in too much of the outside world that would change this area for the worse. This idea was sparked by a person posting on another thread whose online name is 'Born in Ash Flat'. I am reposting what he said below so everyone can see it for themselves. I do this with a prayer in my heart that we all proceed in right action for the highest good. Remember, this is coming from a lifer, not an 'outsider': Californiaiswhereurfrom wrote: <quoted text>You moved here from California and thought you could be one of the hillbillies. Well no matter how long you live here you will never be a local. Nor was your family when they came here either... 'Born in Ash Flat, back in 1957. Does that make me local enough for you, moron? Your attitude, and it is prevalent here, is the NUMBER ONE problem in getting the area better recognized and better able to create a higher employment picture. Your attitude is absolutely out dated and pathetic, and I, as a lifer here, fight it every day. I hear it almost every day, cringe and ignore, yet I feel bad at what could be, instead of what is, due to 100% your type of attitude. Do you not realize your attitude is made a mockery of in most parts of the US? Do you realize your attitude is the main reason a major US corporation in 1991 decided to cut us off the short list of locations to build their plant that would have employed at least 350 jobs? I know, because I sat in on the meeting in Little Rock where the decision was made. The chief project manager told me directly that when was given that outsider look and feel when he and his family came to Hardy to visit that same month, that he knew right then and there that there was no way, even 20 years down the road, that he and other company employees would be truly welcomed. Were you one of the morons who helped push that opportunity out the door, and here you are still making a complete jacka*s out of yourself, all in the name of some heritage bull crap and thinking people from even 2 and 3 states away are somehow evil ands not worthy of your company? Who fed you that crap? Your full of BS grandpappy? Do you know how ignorant and ridiculous that sounds? Really, do you? I don't think you have the first clue, and that is the problem. I hope that attitude dies off with time, but with a mindset like you have, and with your misguided, deep seated hatred for something or some people you think you know, but don't, I believe it will continue and Hardy will stay as it is. Mediocre with hate and ignorance.'-Born in Ash Flat Let us move on from that mindset, and let that mindset die from lack of attention to it. Let us put our attention on that which brings positive results for ourselves, our families, our community, our state, our world. Think globally, act locally. Peace be with us all.
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Wake up and smell the fresh brewed coffee. We don't care about those shops downtown! Never have and never will. We accept some outsiders but not the ones that come in here and think we are a bunch of dumb hillbillies that you are going to tell how much they are missing. You don't know the meaning of community spirit. This town has pulled together for the "real" problems and gotten it back in shape many times over before you floated in on the scene. Always telling us what our problem is... your our problem. We didn't have any until you came here smoking your dope on main street and strolling around like you own the place. Putting up peace signs and telling everyone how great you were. You are outdated and pathetic, the hippie movement is over. Do you know how ignorant and ridiculous you sound with your "I don't like the train sounds, it hurts my spinal cord" What do you think a reefer does every time you smoke one? You with your beads and sandals and hippie clothes and thinking we don't know you are at least one toke over the line. I will say this and I hope you hear it, we love this city without you in it. You can not come in here and change it to your liking. Go somewhere else and spout your ignorance. Quit quoting Jesus, ashflat, and all the others and use your own mind, which is pretty much burned up from what I see. Don't let the screen door hit ya where the good lord split ya! Sanford wrote: I propose that lifers and long-time residents of this area who do not subscribe to the 'insider-outsider' mentality form an alliance and include newer arrivals who have a community spirit; and that together we get some ideas on the table that will help this area stay alive and thriving without hurting the environment or bringing in too much of the outside world that would change this area for the worse. This idea was sparked by a person posting on another thread whose online name is 'Born in Ash Flat'. I am reposting what he said below so everyone can see it for themselves. I do this with a prayer in my heart that we all proceed in right action for the highest good. Remember, this is coming from a lifer, not an 'outsider':
Californiaiswhereurfrom wrote:
<quoted text>You moved here from California and thought you could be one of the hillbillies. Well no matter how long you live here you will never be a local.
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Sanford
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Hardy Resident wrote: Wake up and smell the fresh brewed coffee. We don't care about those shops downtown! Never have and never will. We accept some outsiders but not the ones that come in here and think we are a bunch of dumb hillbillies that you are going to tell how much they are missing. You don't know the meaning of community spirit. This town has pulled together for the "real" problems and gotten it back in shape many times over before you floated in on the scene. Always telling us what our problem is... your our problem. We didn't have any until you came here smoking your dope on main street and strolling around like you own the place. Putting up peace signs and telling everyone how great you were. You are outdated and pathetic, the hippie movement is over. Do you know how ignorant and ridiculous you sound with your "I don't like the train sounds, it hurts my spinal cord" What do you think a reefer does every time you smoke one? You with your beads and sandals and hippie clothes and thinking we don't know you are at least one toke over the line. I will say this and I hope you hear it, we love this city without you in it. You can not come in here and change it to your liking. Go somewhere else and spout your ignorance. Quit quoting Jesus, ashflat, and all the others and use your own mind, which is pretty much burned up from what I see. Don't let the screen door hit ya where the good lord split ya! <quoted text> Why don't you face me in the light of truth and say who you are in public. Why don't you do what Jesus said to do if you follow Him; if you have a problem with someone you are supposed to go and talk to him in face to face. You seem to have your own set of rules, not me. I do not think the people here are dumb as a group. There are smart and dumb people in every town. This town is no different. You can tell the tree by the fruits. I do not tell folks here how much they are missing. Rather, I tell my friends where I came from how much they are missing. I do know the meaning of community spirit. I do not know anyone who goes around smoking 'dope' on Main Street acting like they own the place. That is your imagination and prejudice. I have the right to say how I feel about the train horn. Last time I checked, I still have freedom of speech and expression. Or would you just give freedoms to people who agree with your point of view? I can deal with the trains...I lived in the New York City area for 21 years. I can deal with one train. Maybe that train horn is one reason why you are so damned irritable, after having that horn go off in your head for so long, and you might never know its effect. I do not mean this as a slam. Studies have been done that prove noises like that can affect people long term. But I am over the train. I said my peace. Onward and upward. As a new member of the community, I have all the same rights as anyone else does. I came here in peace and respect and awe of this area of the country. I appreciate this place more than you know. You never breathed the air in NJ for twenty years. You have no idea how much I appreciate this place. But it is not a fraternity or sorority where the upperclass can haze the freshmen. This is a town in America. I own and run a business with my wife. I am an ordained minister. I have helped many many people get over great pain with some of the products we sell that are made from the Cannabis plant, God herb of choice in the Holy Anointing Oil of Exodus 30:23. We only have the legal kind in our store. Both kinds work wonders on pain. You seem to be in some kind of pain. If you are, if you have arthritis, fibromyalgia, joint pain, bad knees, stop in any day but Tuesday and try a sample of Miracle Oil. It is truly a blessing from God. OK, that is all for now. God bless.
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I knew it! Ordained Minister, a card and application from the back of a magazine more like it. Maybe you don't call it dope, maybe you call it Weed Herb Green Kinds Kibbs Kibids Shwag Shwiggs Pot Mary-J Mary-Jane Herbage KB Chronic Spliff Blunt Ganja Sensi Sensemilia Motta THC Buddha Grass Reefer Shake Bud Hemp Draw Dew Endo Giggle bush Purple haze Matchbox Messo role Mo Mighty Mez Kush Hydro Devil's Lettuce green cheese sweet tooth fishermans friend truckies treat jungle juice poor mans grass rich mans lawn Joint Mary Jane Roach Thai Sticks Smoke, Sanford wrote: <quoted text>
Why don't you face me in the light of truth and say who you are in public. Why don't you do what Jesus said to do if you follow Him; if you have a problem with someone you are supposed to go and talk to him in face to face. You seem to have your own set of rules, not me.
I do not think the people here are dumb as a group. There are smart and dumb people in every town. This town is no different.
You can tell the tree by the fruits. I do not tell folks here how much they are missing. Rather, I tell my friends where I came from how much they are missing. I do know the meaning of community spirit. I do not know anyone who goes around smoking 'dope' on Main Street acting like they own the place. That is your imagination and prejudice. I have the right to say how I feel about the train horn. Last time I checked, I still have freedom of speech and expression. Or would you just give freedoms to people who agree with your point of view? I can deal with the trains...I lived in the New York City area for 21 years. I can deal with one train. Maybe that train horn is one reason why you are so damned irritable, after having that horn go off in your head for so long, and you might never know its effect. I do not mean this as a slam. Studies have been done that prove noises like that can affect people long term. But I am over the train. I said my peace. Onward and upward. As a new member of the community, I have all the same rights as anyone else does. I came here in peace and respect and awe of this area of the country. I appreciate this place more than you know. You never breathed the air in NJ for twenty years. You have no idea how much I appreciate this place. But it is not a fraternity or sorority where the upperclass can haze the freshmen. This is a town in America. I own and run a business with my wife. I am an ordained minister. I have helped many many people get over great pain with some of the products we sell that are made from the Cannabis plant, God herb of choice in the Holy Anointing Oil of Exodus 30:23. We only have the legal kind in our store. Both kinds work wonders on pain. You seem to be in some kind of pain. If you are, if you have arthritis, fibromyalgia, joint pain, bad knees, stop in any day but Tuesday and try a sample of Miracle Oil. It is truly a blessing from God. OK, that is all for now. God bless.
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Sanford
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OK, I began this thread calling for something completely different, but it is just the samold sameold. I accomplished my purpose, however, to get the word out that I propose a meeting of area lifers and old timers here who are not prejudiced against 'outsiders' who have moved here in good faith, made long-term financial commitments, own and operate businesses that contribute to the state and local economy, regardless how much or little (every little bit helps), thinking of buying land someday, putting down roots, making lifetime friends here already....so if anyone of like mind wants to follow up on this, contact me. Some people who have been here a long time posted that they have been hoping for new ideas, for people to show up who might change some things, whether they were from here and came back or just from somewhere else. They got their prayers answered and guess what? More are on the way. So many folks here act like THEY own the place, when really it was ripped off the Native Americans. Dwell on that, you who think you have some special rights being here longer. Respect is earned, not dispensed based on time alone. There are some elders in town who love us and who we love. I'm done for now. Peace.
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Paul
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If the "oldtimers" wanted it changed they would have changed it and not waited until you "a saviour in his own eyes" came along. Give them some credit dude. Do you think that out of every single person that lives here none of them have the knowledge to change what they want. They don't want. Get it? Sanford wrote: OK, I began this thread calling for something completely different, but it is just the samold sameold. I accomplished my purpose, however, to get the word out that I propose a meeting of area lifers and old timers here who are not prejudiced against 'outsiders' who have moved here in good faith, made long-term financial commitments, own and operate businesses that contribute to the state and local economy, regardless how much or little (every little bit helps), thinking of buying land someday, putting down roots, making lifetime friends here already....so if anyone of like mind wants to follow up on this, contact me. Some people who have been here a long time posted that they have been hoping for new ideas, for people to show up who might change some things, whether they were from here and came back or just from somewhere else. They got their prayers answered and guess what? More are on the way. So many folks here act like THEY own the place, when really it was ripped off the Native Americans. Dwell on that, you who think you have some special rights being here longer. Respect is earned, not dispensed based on time alone. There are some elders in town who love us and who we love. I'm done for now. Peace.
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Nochange
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Well' This post just proves that the people around here.Hillbilly or not are destined To remained unemployed,on welfare,and nadc staying broke paying peoples rent and utility bills.
And there will still be people on the street's doing dope.No matter what they have to make it out of!
Because no investor in there right mind would sink money into this area..........
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Paul
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You just described the conditions of the largest cities in the United States. Looks like Hardy is right up with the big dogs. Don't be too surprised most investors don't listen to people like you. They invest where they can make the money. Nochange wrote: Well' This post just proves that the people around here.Hillbilly or not are destined To remained unemployed,on welfare,and nadc staying broke paying peoples rent and utility bills.
And there will still be people on the street's doing dope.No matter what they have to make it out of!
Because no investor in there right mind would sink money into this area..........
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Meg
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I'm fairly certain that the opionons here are not representative of the town. I've never encountered the rudeness and negativity expressed here while interacting in Hardy.
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Sanford
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Meg wrote: I'm fairly certain that the opionons here are not representative of the town. I've never encountered the rudeness and negativity expressed here while interacting in Hardy. I would agree, Meg. Thing is, the folks who post negative mostly do not reveal their identities online. I think that when people are disenfranchised, beaten down by the world and the economy, hassled at their jobs or hassled due to no jobs, etc, that they need an outlet to vent their frustrations. Unmoderated sites like this are havens for such manifestations of suffering. I have seen this in other places I have lived. This trash talk is common on such threads. May I recommend trying to communicate where people are more positive and the site is moderated to keep out the negativity: http://www.mainstreethardy.com Maybe there or other positive places, we can accomplish something good.
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You are an ordained minister? Of what? A Christian church? You didn't mention what your affiliation is. Do they know you like to swing?
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Beware
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Be careful Meg. Next he will want to get your phone number or he will be asking you to meet him somewhere. Usually it is "come see me and my wife on main street, we sell hemp and rubbing oils. Can I interest you in some beads, peace signs, or here try this tunic on. Yes, its ok, right here in front of us both, we are all brothers in this world and have nothing to hide". He keeps touting that new website but hangs on this one like he is a hooked monkey. And if you really read his posts, he is the ONLY one that knows ANYTHING and is an ordained minister and obviously a psychoanalyst as he tells us all why we say the things we say. BEWARE Sanford wrote: <quoted text> I would agree, Meg. Thing is, the folks who post negative mostly do not reveal their identities online. I think that when people are disenfranchised, beaten down by the world and the economy, hassled at their jobs or hassled due to no jobs, etc, that they need an outlet to vent their frustrations. Unmoderated sites like this are havens for such manifestations of suffering. I have seen this in other places I have lived. This trash talk is common on such threads. May I recommend trying to communicate where people are more positive and the site is moderated to keep out the negativity: http://www.mainstreethardy.com Maybe there or other positive places, we can accomplish something good.
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Beware wrote: Be careful Meg. Next he will want to get your phone number or he will be asking you to meet him somewhere. Usually it is "come see me and my wife on main street, we sell hemp and rubbing oils. Can I interest you in some beads, peace signs, or here try this tunic on. Yes, its ok, right here in front of us both, we are all brothers in this world and have nothing to hide". He keeps touting that new website but hangs on this one like he is a hooked monkey. And if you really read his posts, he is the ONLY one that knows ANYTHING and is an ordained minister and obviously a psychoanalyst as he tells us all why we say the things we say. BEWARE <quoted text> Since you mentioned the oils we sell, you gotta see this video clip of a customer talking about how much it helped him. Maybe there is someone you know and love who is suffering from arthritis or some other inflammatory disease. We can help relieve a lot of the pain with this oil, by the grace of the Creator. Many people have been helped. A lady in Tennessee just order 24 bottles. Just watch the video, it may skip a bit before it starts: http://www.formotherearth.org/category/testim... By the way, some of your comments regarding how we deal with our customers are borderline libelous and slanderous, seriously. I am letting you know that there is a limit, even on an unmoderated forum. The law still applies here. So beware yourself.
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Remember these? And this is just one forum, need I go on? All posted by SANFORD Let's get a flashing, dinging railroad crossing thingy in Hardy! Post #3 Stop by the store sometime and say hello. For Mother Earth 209 East Main Hardy Post #6 In brotherly love and admonishment, Sanford Post #15 You are 100% right about one thing you said...there are good things about hemp seeds and the products they make. Come visit and introduce yourself. Why all the anonymity online? Let us come out and speak in the light face to face. Our brothers and sisters are fighting and dying for freedom Post #33 This is not a 'one up’. This is your brother calling you.... Post #35 you and I are birds of a feather Post #47 Please come and visit me at our store in Hardy. We are open every day but Tuesday. I would like to talk to you some more.** I hope we can talk face to face someday, for the higher good. I look forward to meeting you. Post #53 i ought to contact the real brad pitt and let him know someone is using his name. that can be done, you know. Sanford wrote: <quoted text> Since you mentioned the oils we sell, you gotta see this video clip of a customer talking about how much it helped him. Maybe there is someone you know and love who is suffering from arthritis or some other inflammatory disease. We can help relieve a lot of the pain with this oil, by the grace of the Creator. Many people have been helped. A lady in Tennessee just order 24 bottles. Just watch the video, it may skip a bit before it starts: http://www.formotherearth.org/category/testim... By the way, some of your comments regarding how we deal with our customers are borderline libelous and slanderous, seriously. I am letting you know that there is a limit, even on an unmoderated forum. The law still applies here. So beware yourself.
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Beware wrote: Remember these? And this is just one forum, need I go on? All posted by SANFORD Let's get a flashing, dinging railroad crossing thingy in Hardy!
Post #3 Stop by the store sometime and say hello. For Mother Earth 209 East Main Hardy
Post #6 In brotherly love and admonishment, Sanford
Post #15 You are 100% right about one thing you said...there are good things about hemp seeds and the products they make. Come visit and introduce yourself. Why all the anonymity online? Let us come out and speak in the light face to face. Our brothers and sisters are fighting and dying for freedom
Post #33 This is not a 'one up’. This is your brother calling you....
Post #35 you and I are birds of a feather
Post #47 Please come and visit me at our store in Hardy. We are open every day but Tuesday. I would like to talk to you some more.** I hope we can talk face to face someday, for the higher good. I look forward to meeting you.
Post #53 i ought to contact the real brad pitt and let him know someone is using his name. that can be done, you know.
<quoted text> I fail to get the point you are trying to make by reposting some of my messages. But that is OK. I am pretty much done trying to have any meaningful exchanges here in a mutually positive environment because that is not the game going on at this table, so to speak. I am going to find another table that is more level and where the dealers are coming from the top of the deck. People act scary when they are scared. You call yourself 'Beware', pretty scary name. So what are you scared of? No need to respond to me about it, I just hope you face it and get over it. Probably won't be posting as much going forward. Take care.
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Paul
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You keep saying you won't be posting as much but you are on here constantly. Did you forget that you said that? Bad trip? Light up a doobie and relax. Then get on here and bore someone to death with your pages of quotes that you forget what they say by morning. What's that? Oh just a train. Enjoy. Sanford wrote: <quoted text>
I fail to get the point you are trying to make by reposting some of my messages. But that is OK. I am pretty much done trying to have any meaningful exchanges here in a mutually positive environment because that is not the game going on at this table, so to speak. I am going to find another table that is more level and where the dealers are coming from the top of the deck.
People act scary when they are scared. You call yourself 'Beware', pretty scary name. So what are you scared of? No need to respond to me about it, I just hope you face it and get over it.
Probably won't be posting as much going forward. Take care.
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BornUSA
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Seems like brotherly love has been thrown out the window. Did everyone forget united we stand? With the way you folks seem to be so against each other because of different views..seems the town should just board up its doors and become a ghost town.
Some like it the way it was..well times change. It still has a wonderful charm and no one every says old times and stuff are hillbillies..only the locals bring that up !
Lets all pull together to make it a better place online and in real time too !
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You are full of it. I think you are Mark or the other one that is trying to promote that website. Yes I think you are. If you don't like Hardy then why would you be so miserable and continue to stay. Search around and find a place that is more suited to your weird ways and move there. I will help you pack! BornUSA wrote: Seems like brotherly love has been thrown out the window. Did everyone forget united we stand? With the way you folks seem to be so against each other because of different views..seems the town should just board up its doors and become a ghost town.
Some like it the way it was..well times change. It still has a wonderful charm and no one every says old times and stuff are hillbillies..only the locals bring that up !
Lets all pull together to make it a better place online and in real time too !
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