Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Rock Hudson

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LOL!
I love it that he is complaining about bias while championing bias
Aren't you going to defend MY rights, D? Aren't you going to demand that MY rights be protected? Where's all that "I'll not stand for tyranny" routine now? It sounds like you don't mind seeing my rights being denied, since I don't see things your way. Full-blown hypocrisy, and I'll not lose any sleep about it. Your laughing and crowing about my denied rights won't rob me of a thing that I value.
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Drunkty Drunkty posted on the wall.
Drunkty Drunkty had a good bawl.
All the Jack Daniels and whining and insults he could muster
couldn’t stop Drunkty Drunkty from getting banned yet again.
Why is your dumb ad hominem not hateful nonsense exactly like you whine other people shouldn't be allowed to post? What is different about it? Why is it OK for you to post stupid ad hominem nonsense but not OK for other posters except of course the great Rose_NoHo?

Please enlighten us. Where can I get a pass to post stupid insults like you seem to think you have?

P.S. Jack Daniels sucks.
Rock Hudson

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veryvermilion wrote:
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1) Look, there are thousands of people using TOPIX at any one point during the day. Do you really think a moderator is following your specific posts? I doubt it.
2) My guess is that you've hacked off so many people in this forum that they routinely report your posts as being offensive. That's why you get banned.
3) It's not bias from the site moderators. It's just some folks who do a drive-by hit on your postings.
4) It comes with the territory.
5) I, personally, don't report people; unless they threaten violence. And that's happened a couple of times.
6) When I lived in Greeneville, TN and started "mouthing off" (i.e.: expressing my support for LGBT issues), a couple of people found out my identity, which wasn't hard to do in a small town.
They made physical threats against me; involving spikes if I'm not mistaken. It got a little creepy.
But I'm a big guy--6'5", 250#s. I don't scare easily. I've taken a baseball bat to the back of the head a few times. And I won't even get into the number of balls being slammed into my face (it's joke).
1) Yes. there are moderators. And they DO delete posts. It says so, right there in the "please refrain..." line.
2) Reporting offensive posts is only done AFTER the posts reach the forum, which isn't the case here. Nice try.
3) My postings are only postings AFTER they reach the floor. they don't have anything to report if I press the "Post Comment" button, and the post does not get posted. See? It's elementary. And deletion of a post is not the same as being banned, believe me, I know the difference.
4) the territory is policed to be gay-friendly, and anti-heterosexual. for those of us championing the 1 man/1 woman stance, we are sided against. It DOES come with the territory. It is why you can post words that I cannot.
5) I've reported 2 people for threats of violence, from your side, in this forum. "TooManyLaws" and "LaQueesha Jefferson PHD".
Joke taken. nice.
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Xavier Breath wrote:
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But ya ARE paranoid, Blanche.
...Yeah, keep talking...
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Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Cry baby.
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Adapt or go extinct, wussy boy.
Umm....Neither. Keep talking...
Rock Hudson

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Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Cry baby.
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Adapt or go extinct, wussy boy.
You must be happy, however, to see America turn into "Idiocracy", you'll feel right at home, with all the other rejects, all huddled up, telling each other that there's nothing wrong with yourselves.....Keep talking....

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Bit of a race isn't it? Rhode Island appears to have SSM in the bag so there are 10 states allowing it.
I don't know if it is so much of a race, as a guarantee. I think if given enough time a majority of the States will adopt a form of same sex union, be it Marriage, or a Civil Union with the same benefits.

Now, the other side of the coin is that the SCOTUS makes another sweeping decision forcing all states into compliance, forcing the adoption of same sex marriage. This will cause 31 States which have adopted Constitutional Amendments to strictly define marriage as one man and one woman to feel disenfranchised, at a time when many feel that was as it is. A majority of the country is quite ticked off at Washington DC, and there is a push towards State right's and returning to the republican form of government our founders gave us. This could just be the straw that breaks the proverbial camels back.
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veryvermilion wrote:
Here's how your barbaric community attempts to "straighten" kids out...
Gay Teens Starved, Tortured, Killed at Camp to Turn Them into ‘Men’
Three ‘gay and effeminate’ teens have died after being starved, tortured and killed at a camp that promised to turn them into 'men'.
A picture of Raymond Buys, 15, taken in April 2011 showed a skeletal, emaciated figure fighting for his life.
Just 10 weeks before, the teen’s parents signed him up to the Echo Wild Game Rangers training course in South Africa in perfect health.
In hospital, Buys was severely malnourished, dehydrated, his arm was broken in two places and there were burns and wounds all over his body. He lay in intensive care for four weeks until he died.
And now, the course ‘general’ Alex De Koker, 49, and employee Michael Erasmus, 20, are on trial for charges of murder, child abuse and neglect, along with two cases of assault with intent to do grievous bodily harm in relation to Buys' death.
The teen’s death is alleged to have been the third among the Afrikaans children who attended the R22,000 ($2,400,€1,900) courses, which have been advertized since 2006.
‘I sent my son on this course to make him a better man, to give him a better future,’ Buys’ mother told The Daily Telegraph.‘I trusted Alex De Koker with his life.’
Last week, the Vereeniging District Court heard the testimony of a boy who had shared a tent with Buys, the Daily Maverick reports.
Gerhard Oostuizen, 19, claims Buys was chained to his bed every night, was refused permission to visit the toilet and on one occasion was forced to eat his own feces.
He also said he would be beaten with planks, hosepipes and sticks when he failed to carry out manual labor tasks.
Oostuizen alleged further he saw De Koker tied Buys to a chair naked with his head covered in a pillowcase, and would electrocute him with a stun gun.
Gender activist Melanie Nathan has said the three young men were all perceived as ‘gay and clearly effeminate’.
In reference to ‘gay conversion camps’, Nathan writes:‘With a little bit of digging [into the story], the gay reparative undertones start to emerge.’
Eric Calitz, 18, and Nicolaas Van Der Walt, 19, had both died after being enrolled at the Echo Wild Game Rangers camp four years earlier.
When Calitz requested to leave, De Koker reportedly told him he ‘wasn’t a moffie [gay] and he would make a man out of him’.
Calitz’s family was informed of his death via text message, saying he had died of a heart attack.
Afterwards, doctors said the cause of death was from a seizure, dehydration and found bleeding from the brain.
Van Der Walt was also claimed to have died from a heart attack, but doctors said he had appeared to have been choked with a seatbelt.
In 2009, De Koker was handed a suspended sentence over Calitz but escaped charges for the death of Van Der Walt, and the camp was allowed to continue.
Both De Koker and Erasmus have pleaded not guilty to the charges. The case continues.
That's a barbaric showing from South Africa. And don't forget, there is a larger number of psychos in "our community" due to our higher numbers in every arena. I would imagine that there are more straight people going after this crime, as well. Don't worry, "we'll" sort it out, and see that the perps are punished.

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He wouldn’t even get the states he is counting on, much less 7 others, you need 2/3 of state legislatures to get around the house and senate, which just isn’t going to happen.
Counting on? I am not counting on anything, I merely point out a fact. But we know you don't deal in reality.

BTW, those States I am "counting on", would those be the same states which have already adopted Constitutional Amendments which would mimic that of a US Constitutional Amendment? Those are the ones that would do what they have already done?

Oh, and these 31 States, they are going to come much harder to the SSM crowd. If the SCOTUS does not make a sweeping decision, it will take another vote of the people to once again Amend their Constitution, it will not be as simple as blasting the court or the State Legislature with lobbyist's.

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Why is your dumb ad hominem not hateful nonsense exactly like you whine other people shouldn't be allowed to post? What is different about it? Why is it OK for you to post stupid ad hominem nonsense but not OK for other posters except of course the great Rose_NoHo?
Please enlighten us. Where can I get a pass to post stupid insults like you seem to think you have?
P.S. Jack Daniels sucks.
Relax, hater.

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Aren't you going to defend MY rights, D? Aren't you going to demand that MY rights be protected? Where's all that "I'll not stand for tyranny" routine now? It sounds like you don't mind seeing my rights being denied, since I don't see things your way. Full-blown hypocrisy, and I'll not lose any sleep about it. Your laughing and crowing about my denied rights won't rob me of a thing that I value.
Oops, meant this for you, but, it fits your man crush too. LOL
Drunkty Drunkty posted on the wall.
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The more I read, the more stupid I think this subject is. Eventually, people will be marrying their pets because once marriage is disconnected from it's traditional meaning, there will be no boundary!
But, So what?! If our society is so stupid as to let 1-2% of our population bully us into this change then so be it! I will argue forever that this is the wrong policy but there are other issues quite frankly that are more pressing such as our poor foreign policy and utterly stupid domestic economic policy!
Exactly. Sensibility there. Bravo, and thank you.
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no one seems to care about Posse Comitatus, they just care that the government is mandating their acceptance. Leading to further governmental controls.
"What is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage. The mere act of believing that some wrongful course of action constitutes an advantage is pernicious."
And..
"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and given him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the new wonderful good society which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean more money, more ease, more security, and more living fatly at the expense of the industrious."
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."
Spoken by a wise man. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Your logic dictates that if you’re married (not sure if you are) it only qualifies as ¾ of a union since you proclaim yourself to be ½ woman and ½ man. Do you think monsters, such as yourself, should be allowed to marry?
There you go! Complete puppetry now. Resorting using Chongo-esque insults. Completely lost, since all you have is insults, and not even your own ones. Another Cicero quote: "When you have no argument, abuse the plaintiff". I knew that you were empty, now you have proven it.
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Why is your dumb ad hominem not hateful nonsense exactly like you whine other people shouldn't be allowed to post? What is different about it? Why is it OK for you to post stupid ad hominem nonsense but not OK for other posters except of course the great Rose_NoHo?
Please enlighten us. Where can I get a pass to post stupid insults like you seem to think you have?
P.S. Jack Daniels sucks.
That's sad, man. That's the best that Little Diddums can come up with? Oh hell...he's not even worth noticing. We can get shyte like that from Chongo..
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Former Dixie Chick frontwoman Natalie Maines, a decade after the fact, has no qualms about her dig against George W. Bush.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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KiMare wrote:
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I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
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Your logic dictates that if you’re married (not sure if you are) it only qualifies as ¾ of a union since you proclaim yourself to be ½ woman and ½ man. Do you think monsters, such as yourself, should be allowed to marry?
It's clear you have no argument with the defunct stance of ss couples with marriage.

However, I've never proclaimed myself as half of anything. A genetic chimera has the full DNA of two people, and no epi-marker mistakes like homosexuals. We are however both sexual mutations. You however are in denial about it.

Smile.
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Here is an Oldie but a common problem with Muslim Men.

The tragic story of a Saudi cleric who raped and murdered his 5-year-old daughter made international headlines.

The fact that the man was not sentenced to death for his crimes sparked outrage and condemnation by both the non-muslim world press and the world public.

What would happen if two muslim men married?
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KiMare wrote:
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I'm aware there are a number of fake, imposter, sterile, duplicate half of marriage pretendies, but no such thing as a 'ss marriage'.
Smile.
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It's clear you have no argument with the defunct stance of ss couples with marriage.
However, I've never proclaimed myself as half of anything. A genetic chimera has the full DNA of two people, and no epi-marker mistakes like homosexuals. We are however both sexual mutations. You however are in denial about it.
Smile.
What's also clear is that he/she has no grasp of logic, or original thought. I'm sure that you noticed the absolute reliance on a Chongo-type insult? This one's a small fry, playing at being an adult..

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Opps!!

"Lesbian Activist’s Surprisingly Candid Speech: Gay Marriage Fight Is a ‘Lie’ to Destroy Marriage"

http://news.yahoo.com/lesbian-activist-surpri...

-“Gay marriage is a lie.”

-“Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we’re going to do with marriage when we get there.”

-“It’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist.”

-“I don’t see why they (her children) shouldn’t have five parents legally. I don’t see why we should choose two of those parents and make them a sanctioned couple.”
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OBGbdee wrote:
Here is an Oldie but a common problem with Muslim Men.
The tragic story of a Saudi cleric who raped and murdered his 5-year-old daughter made international headlines.
The fact that the man was not sentenced to death for his crimes sparked outrage and condemnation by both the non-muslim world press and the world public.
What would happen if two muslim men married?
Poor little girl..

Activists say under Islamic laws a father cannot be executed for murdering his children.
Husbands can also not be executed for murdering their wives, the group say.

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