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#21
Mar 30, 2011
 
wow wrote:
I find it humorous that the thread was pulled after his blog was posted... he probably didn't thinks a bunch of redneck idiots could operate a search engine. If people want tolerance then they need to show tolerance it doesn't work any other way
Well they did use quite a few three and four syllable words in the blog and he is going to try to explain confirmation bias (you know when people gravitate to information that backs up their beliefs) but he is not sure if we will be able to digest what that is.:)
Jennifer from the Block

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#22
Mar 30, 2011
 
I really dont think many people had an issue with him, but you do have to admit the paper played it up. I apologize and I did not correctly read the panel name.

Mr. Rene was truly not the problem or issues that the article really opened up. It was the issue of all illegals. You should of had a better front man and had someone who is here illegal sit on the panel and tell their side.
Jennifer from the Block

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#23
Mar 30, 2011
 
Just one more thing. The artice read you wanted a honest discussion on stereotyping, but I believe anyone who had a different opinion was stereotyped as racists and rednecks. Why are you better than everyone else. Just a thought
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#24
Mar 30, 2011
 
Enough wrote:
It is absolutely ridiculous that people posted what they did without even reading the article. It clearly stated that Najera was legal and speaks English.
There is no shortage of inflamatory comments on most topics. And while there were some commenters who didn't read the entire article, most of the negativity was directed at illegal aliens, not Mr. Najera. This is undoubtedly out of the frustration all good citizens feel when our elected representatives repeatedly fail us; when our culture and all we have worked for over some generations is trampled by the obviously racist nature of way too many of the hispanics we host in our country; when our economy is suffering, while our invaders demand they be accommodated and so forth and so on.

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#25
Mar 30, 2011
 
Toward the end of the comments there was one that seemed a threat of physical violence and implored people not to bring their children to the meeting. That's when I shut the thread down.

Marc Charisse
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#26
Mar 30, 2011
 
Jennifer from the Block wrote:
Just one more thing. The artice read you wanted a honest discussion on stereotyping, but I believe anyone who had a different opinion was stereotyped as racists and rednecks. Why are you better than everyone else. Just a thought
Here is the only reason I got involved. People who believe immigration laws should be enforced does not = racist. Similiarly, all "brown skinned" people does not = illegal alien. Racist has become a political hand grenade. Don't like what someone elses view on immigration, throw racist at them. What is interesting about the blog that was posted is that it appears that many of those people do believe themselves to be superior. I suppose they support do as I say not as I do.

"Racist" gets thrown around a lot. Many of the people posting in that forum qualified in my opinion. But the people who want to change immigration law want to do so using the word "racist" as their battle cry. The law is not racist nor is it unreasonable. There is a matter of national security associated with it and honestly now more than ever given the attacks and foiled attacks on this country.

I also do not deny that people have differing reasons as to why they want the law enforced. Certainly, and furthermore proven by some of the posts in the other forum, race is one of the reasons. But unlike some of the posters speaking out against the racism I do not believe that racism is the overwhelming driving reason for most supporting the enforcement of immigration laws.

But in today's world it is easier to progress your agenda by name calling and marginalization than to actually discuss the issue at hand.
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#27
Mar 30, 2011
 
mcharisse wrote:
Toward the end of the comments there was one that seemed a threat of physical violence and implored people not to bring their children to the meeting. That's when I shut the thread down.
Marc Charisse
Thank you for clarification. Unfortunately that coincided with the comments on his other blog and needless to say how that looked.
Jennifer from the Block

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#28
Mar 30, 2011
 
Mark,

I dont think that comment was in any way directed towards the violence of children, at least I hope it wasnt. If it was then you made a wise choice. I think it was meant as this is adult issues and language could be an issue at this meeting. Hope all goes well and we can see each others point of view.

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#29
Mar 30, 2011
 
As reluctant as I was to shut down the board, I felt it was better to be safe and not let this get out of hand. I appreciate your understanding.

marc
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#30
Mar 30, 2011
 
Enough wrote:
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Here is the only reason I got involved. People who believe immigration laws should be enforced does not = racist. Similiarly, all "brown skinned" people does not = illegal alien. Racist has become a political hand grenade. Don't like what someone elses view on immigration, throw racist at them. What is interesting about the blog that was posted is that it appears that many of those people do believe themselves to be superior. I suppose they support do as I say not as I do.
"Racist" gets thrown around a lot. Many of the people posting in that forum qualified in my opinion. But the people who want to change immigration law want to do so using the word "racist" as their battle cry. The law is not racist nor is it unreasonable. There is a matter of national security associated with it and honestly now more than ever given the attacks and foiled attacks on this country.
I also do not deny that people have differing reasons as to why they want the law enforced. Certainly, and furthermore proven by some of the posts in the other forum, race is one of the reasons. But unlike some of the posters speaking out against the racism I do not believe that racism is the overwhelming driving reason for most supporting the enforcement of immigration laws.
But in today's world it is easier to progress your agenda by name calling and marginalization than to actually discuss the issue at hand.
Thank you..Thank you...Thank you..
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#31
Mar 30, 2011
 
After once again reading the supercilious remarks in the blog, I am so done you can stick a fork in me. Nothing can be learned from this gentleman whose best reasoning why we should tolerate people not learning English is because the Hanover Town Charter was written in German. If it would help I would be happy to translate it for him since along with Spanish, Portugues and Russia, I speak German. If I can do that, any legal or illegals can learn English.

Peace out until the Town Meeting.
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#32
Mar 30, 2011
 
Whoops sorry "Russian" those pesky grammar police will be here again.
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#33
Mar 30, 2011
 
Enough wrote:
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Here is the only reason I got involved. People who believe immigration laws should be enforced does not = racist. Similiarly, all "brown skinned" people does not = illegal alien. Racist has become a political hand grenade. Don't like what someone elses view on immigration, throw racist at them. What is interesting about the blog that was posted is that it appears that many of those people do believe themselves to be superior. I suppose they support do as I say not as I do.
"Racist" gets thrown around a lot. Many of the people posting in that forum qualified in my opinion. But the people who want to change immigration law want to do so using the word "racist" as their battle cry. The law is not racist nor is it unreasonable. There is a matter of national security associated with it and honestly now more than ever given the attacks and foiled attacks on this country.
I also do not deny that people have differing reasons as to why they want the law enforced. Certainly, and furthermore proven by some of the posts in the other forum, race is one of the reasons. But unlike some of the posters speaking out against the racism I do not believe that racism is the overwhelming driving reason for most supporting the enforcement of immigration laws.
But in today's world it is easier to progress your agenda by name calling and marginalization than to actually discuss the issue at hand.
Well said.
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#34
Mar 30, 2011
 
Sorry could not contain myself...One last post regarding your blog.

1. People ARE created equal (however not all people are equal under the law depending on their legal status). Now please explain this to your blog buddies who are pretty sure they are far superior than the rest of us.

2. You do not have to keep saying - "Then again, I'm going to have to put all this in layman's terms." We get it, you think we are dumb.

3. Please inform the gentleperson who wrote "Well, Rene, I suppose this is little comfort, but your critics appear the sort who write in caps lock, have zero reading comprehension, and can't write at a fourth grade level. So there won't be any intelligent or deeply thought-provoking arguments for you to rebut." That this describes some of the same people who you are trying to defend. Also he is wrong that there will not be any intelligent or deeply thought-provoking arguments for you to rebuke.

4. When you say it is going to be either very very good or very very bad........

5. Why do the black kids sit together in the cafeteria? Because that is how they feel comfortable the same as the white kids, the brown kids and every other color in the rainbow. It is well known that people like to group with others the same as them. Good, bad or indifferent it happens.

6. Yes I was cringing at some of the remarks being made. The same as I would cringe at people making homophobic remarks and the same as I did cringe at the remarks made in your blog.

7. Word to the wise. When you post something on the internet...it is out there.
Jennifer from the Block

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#35
Mar 30, 2011
 
Public Service Announce wrote:
Sorry could not contain myself...One last post regarding your blog.
1. People ARE created equal (however not all people are equal under the law depending on their legal status). Now please explain this to your blog buddies who are pretty sure they are far superior than the rest of us.
2. You do not have to keep saying - "Then again, I'm going to have to put all this in layman's terms." We get it, you think we are dumb.
3. Please inform the gentleperson who wrote "Well, Rene, I suppose this is little comfort, but your critics appear the sort who write in caps lock, have zero reading comprehension, and can't write at a fourth grade level. So there won't be any intelligent or deeply thought-provoking arguments for you to rebut." That this describes some of the same people who you are trying to defend. Also he is wrong that there will not be any intelligent or deeply thought-provoking arguments for you to rebuke.
4. When you say it is going to be either very very good or very very bad........
5. Why do the black kids sit together in the cafeteria? Because that is how they feel comfortable the same as the white kids, the brown kids and every other color in the rainbow. It is well known that people like to group with others the same as them. Good, bad or indifferent it happens.
6. Yes I was cringing at some of the remarks being made. The same as I would cringe at people making homophobic remarks and the same as I did cringe at the remarks made in your blog.
7. Word to the wise. When you post something on the internet...it is out there.
Well written my friend. See you at the Town Meeting.
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#36
Mar 30, 2011
 
http://blog.epiren.com/

Look we made another blog of his!!!--- some posters even got highlighted.

It is wonderful that he has pinpointed Hanover as the pinnacle of racism!!!
Jennifer from the Block

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#37
Mar 30, 2011
 
Public Service Announce wrote:
http://blog.epiren.com/
Look we made another blog of his!!!--- some posters even got highlighted.
It is wonderful that he has pinpointed Hanover as the pinnacle of racism!!!
Nice work. Where are all of his supporters now? Oh how the skeletons fall out of the closet
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#38
Mar 30, 2011
 
We have no freedoms anymore cant write or speakout illegals go back home u r the ones ruining r country U f-cker come here use an abuse r system an now its broken u f-ckers want 2 go back home 4 all those who agree with this statement give me big HELL YEAH 4 all us US citizen that pay there taxes an work 4 a living So screw those editors that only want 2 print what the want maybe that is why there paper is not being brought by many anymore
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#39
Mar 31, 2011
 
mcharisse wrote:
Toward the end of the comments there was one that seemed a threat of physical violence and implored people not to bring their children to the meeting. That's when I shut the thread down.
Marc Charisse
Did u really expect to get hugs & kisses in the forum? Until other issues get straighten out if u want to shut something else pull the meeting. When I say issues let me give u an example. Girl looking for rental property. After coming to see property and going over details it is revealed she does not have a green card. She does how ever have a valid drivers license from PA & works at a pizza joint in Gettysburg. If u want me to come to a let's all get along meeting get that kind of crap taken care of first. Until that time your little meeting will make no difference. Think how much money this country could save if they did not have to cater to Spanish speaking only.
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#40
Mar 31, 2011
 
Wait a minute. He gets told to go home, to learn English, and that Mexicans along with Blacks are what made a mess of things in your town, and you're angry he's labeled those comments as idiotic? Why, because those comments are full of reason and tolerance?

Are you the kind of people that would blame a physician if she diagnosed you with cancer? Jesus Christ you're all so dense.

Dude's been writing online since forever, so I hardly think that you'll be able to scare him off by saying that you now saved the link. Laughable is what you are.

And just for clarification, Respectful Insolence is a blog property of an oncologist in Chicago, not Najera. Najera posts comments on there, and notice he does NOT hide behind a pseudonym. The Epi Times is his blog, and funny how he doesn't hide there either. Who's the coward? Who's afraid?

Jennifer and friends, I truly do hope you come and ask him questions. With cameras and the press, we'll finally put faces to the hate.

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