#56763 Mar 24, 2014
I agree, if you don't have healthcare and complain about the cost don't buy it, pay the small fee each year from your income tax refund or through payroll deduction. However if for some reason you fall out of that tree your trimming with your chainsaw that you had to do a 'You Tube" search on "How to operate a chain saw", and you fall out of the tree with chain running at 10,000 RPM's cutting off you leg, then if you have no healthcare how do you pay that bill?
I think $200 or $400 a month payment for healthcare is much cheaper than a $600,000-$900,000 bill from the hospital ......Don't need a law degree to figure this out.
So all those out there ,forget the insurance coverage that you cant afford, pay the BIG bill when you get hurt.......because Obama wont come after you, the insurance company will.....I wouldn't want to risk selling my house and giving up my first born to pay a BIG medical bill!
Forget the people on welfare, they pay nothing and this just didn't happen on Obama's watch, it's been going on for 40 years........cut out the fraud and give it to the people that need it..........disabled vets, single moms and dads, children with life long disabilities ,elderly in nursing homes and living at home or with a family member.. as strange as it seems , welfare is needed, just crack down on the fraud, don't encourage it....I'm tired of paying for dead beats and I'm tried of paying politicians that only work 159 days a year at six figure incomes and get nothing done
#56764 Mar 24, 2014
The United States healthcare system is a disaster.
The United States comprises only 4% of the world's population, consumes 75% of prescription medication manufactured, yet is 72nd in health according to the World Health Organization.
I think people that deal with obesity should pay double as well as a smoker, if you're fat and smoke your healthcare premiums should triple.
If you eat at McDonalds 5 times week , you shouldn't qualify for insurance at all....just light a fart and hope it backfires and burns for hours.
#56765 Mar 24, 2014
A guy in Idaho complained about his healthcare premiums under Obamacare. He said he shouldn't be forced to buy insurance, but is forced to buy car insurance. Too funny !
He claims he cant afford the $212.00 a month for the insurance plan that he seen on healthcare.gov , he said ,"It's a great plan with low deductibles, and choices of various doctors and hospitals when he lives.
However, he strapped for cash ,saying he has a $379.00 car payment plus his $92.00 cell phone bill a month, plus his internet and cable TV which are combined at $189.00 a month. Plus he likes to gamble at the casino near him which cost him about $350.00 a month ( he stated that's his 'entertainment money', and also likes to go on vacation every year ( not some smelly dirty beach in this country ) but out of this country to Aruba and Jamaica at approx.$4000.00 for an all inclusive week long getaway. He's single , 38 years old and likes to date and eat out frequently. He cant seem to cough up $212.00 a month though.
Did I mention he's Republican also ?
#56766 Mar 24, 2014
So who is a progressive? You might be one if
* You think health care is a basic human right, and that single-payer national health insurance is a worthwhile reform on our way toward creating a non-profit national health care service.
* You think that human rights ought always to trump property rights.
* You think U.S. military spending is an obscene waste of resources, and that the only freedom this spending protects is the freedom of economic elites to exploit working people all around the planet....
* You think public education should be free, not just from kindergarten through high school, but as far as a person is willing and able to go....
* You think that electoral democracy is not enough, and that democracy must also be participatory and extend to workplaces.
* You think that strengthening the rights of all workers to unionize and bargain collectively is a useful step toward full economic democracy....
* You think that a class system which forces some people to do dirty, dangerous, boring work all the time, while others get to do clean, safe, interesting work all the time, can never deliver social justice.
* You think that regulating big corporations isn't enough, and that such corporations, if they are allowed to exist at all, must either serve the common good or be put into public receivership....
* You think it's wrong to allow individuals to accumulate wealth without limits, and that the highest incomes should be capped well before they begin to threaten community and democracy.
* You think that wealth, not just income, should be taxed....
* You think that anyone who desires the reins of power that come with high political office should, by reason of that desire, be seen as unfit for the job....
* You think that national borders, while sometimes establishing territories of safety, more often establish territories of exploitation, much like gang turf....
* You think that, ideally, no one would have more wealth more than they need until everyone has at least as much as they need to live a safe, happy, decent life.
* You recognize that an economic system [capitalism] which requires continuous expansion, destroys the environment, relies on rapidly-depleting fossil fuels, exacerbates inequality, and leads to war after war is unsustainable and must be replaced.
#56767 Mar 24, 2014
WATCH: Americans in Every State Affected by Obamacare
March 23, 2014
Happy fourth birthday, Obamacare!
From sea to shining sea, in blue states and in red states, people are struggling with the negative effects of Obamacare, including higher premiums, cancelled insurance policies, and new policies that don’t include patients’ current doctors.
Watch this video to see news reports of Americans in every single state grabble with Obamacare’s problems.
#56768 Mar 24, 2014
I'll be back
#56769 Mar 24, 2014
Your list is incomplete. Many policy issues of importance to progressives go unmentioned. Others might say that the list leans too far to the left, or not far enough. It could also be said that some items are vague (what does it mean to say that human rights ought always to trump property rights?). These are all useful responses. If we hope to work together to transform the social world, we need to know what we agree on, what we don't agree on, and what needs further hashing-out.
In the end, however, it's not labels and identities and criteria for bestowing them that really matter. Political terms have consequences, but only because of how we use them. Which suggests another item for the list. You might be a progressive if you think that it's important to take seriously the meaning of political identities, but that what really matters is living out those identities in ways that help to create more peace, justice, and equality.
#56770 Mar 24, 2014
The so-called free market did not prevent insurance companies "from discriminating against anyone with a pre-existing condition, dropping your coverage if you get sick, billing you into bankruptcy because of an illness or injury, and limiting your annual or lifetime benefits." And of course you "ha[d] to worry about losing coverage if you're laid off or change jobs." The ACA fixes such cherry-picking of only healthy people and dumping sick folks. In fact, I just quoted http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files... ....
Moreover, 20+ million uninsured people will now get coverage. That means they can get prompt medical attention, rather than wait till they get major complications and have to run to the emergency room. Covering folks is not only more humane than neglecting them, it is more cost effective.
Similarly, some folks have junk policies -- i.e., dirt cheap, but provide very little coverage, sometimes unbeknownst to the policy holder (fraud!). That means free loading on the rest of us when they have a serious medical need. The ACA sets minimum standards for what's got to be covered. Would you prefer instead that folks can continue to free load? Emergency room visits are very expensive; talk about waste!
Likewise, expanding Medicaid will allow people to get treated promptly, and so is simply more cost effective than the status quo. As for affordability, talk to the Republican governors who are refusing Medicaid funding under the ACA, leaving 5 million uninsured folks who are just above the poverty line uncovered. More suffering -- and more emergency room visits!
The ACA does not force you to change doctors; there are a variety of commercial policies available on the exchanges.
The ACA is a big improvement -- yet it can be improved further. It sets up exchanges (i.e., makes markets transparent) within states. It is now easy to compare policies across different insurers. I got better coverage with lower premiums, starting 1/1/2014.
The unregulated market and tort reform didn't fix the above problems. I've not seen any critic on this site who has offered a serious solution if not the ACA.
#56771 Mar 24, 2014
#56772 Mar 24, 2014
Bring Bush back and start another war my brother is laid off from Halliburton , got his healthcare cancelled and has found a great plan with Obamacare
#56773 Mar 24, 2014
I like the Republican Health Care plan better.
What was there plan anyway ?
#56774 Mar 24, 2014
Can you cite specifics of how and when Obama "pardoned Bush?"
Can you cite specifics of Bush's admission of being an "international war criminal?"
No? Of course not.
Beginning your rant with lies earns the rest of your post a courtesy flush.
Since: Oct 12
#56775 Mar 25, 2014
After the two wars at full speed and the crash, our economy suffered in 2008.....if a slow launch for the Affordable Healthcare Act is all we have to piss and moan about......we are in Great Shape.....
“Comfort the afflicted”
Since: May 13
Afflict the comfortable
#56776 Mar 25, 2014
Obama chose not to pursue prosecution when he was elected. He said it was an "act of good faith and good will."
Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld all admitted to torturing POWS. That's an international war crime. Bush can't even travel for fear of international arrest.
And I'm not even counting the million innocents he mass murdered or the invasion of a sovereign nation under knowingly false pretexts.
#56777 Mar 25, 2014
#56778 Mar 25, 2014
Romney:‘Our esteem … has fallen’ under Obama
March 23, 2014
Says president living in a geopolitical fantasyland
Mitt Romney said Sunday that the United States’ international esteem has declined during President Obama’s five years in the White House.
“You look over the past five years and say,‘What’s happened?’ Good things have not been bursting out all over,” the former Republican presidential nominee said in an interview with Bob Schieffer on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”
Mr. Romney, who lost to Mr. Obama in 2012, said the Middle East is in “turmoil” while Iraq and Afghanistan are becoming less stable.
“Our esteem around the world has fallen,” Mr. Romney said.“I can’t think of a major country — it’s hard to think of a single country — that has greater respect and admiration for America today than it did five years ago when Barack Obama became president, and that’s a very sad, unfortunate state of affairs.”
Mr. Romney said during the 2012 campaign that Russia was the greatest threat to global security, a statement that was mocked at the time by Mr. Obama during a debate but which has proven prescient after this month’s Russian invasion of Crimea.
#56779 Mar 25, 2014
So...you believe torturing terrorists is wrong...and you're mad cause innocent people died during invasions...yet you never mention how wrong it is to kill our innocent children because...oopsie..I got pregnant again..you never mention those pieces of shi t attacking us..our towers our innocent people that died? Why is that? You believe that abortion should be a form of birth control..yet spare the people that loathe us...you make no sense you disgusting excuse of an American..it's a shame your mother didn't feel like you do about abortion..we'd have one less suckling retard in this world. You obviously aren't for our Country...why don't you move to Iraq with your innocent pals.. Maybe a desperate woman or child will walk up to you with a bomb strapped to their body and blow your pathetic azz up.
#56780 Mar 25, 2014
We don't need to bring Bush back for another war. Your President Obama is doing a fine job involving the US in foreign countries, killing leaders and innocent civilians.
#56781 Mar 25, 2014
Bacon hater is, and I hate to use this word but he is retarded.
#56782 Mar 25, 2014
Prove it? Prove that Bush was a war criminal and Obama pardoned him..proof? Show me! Keep making stuff up you lying pos
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