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#53437 Oct 11, 2013
"I'll note that that poll was very heavily weighted with an awful lot of Democrats with an awful lot of Obama supporters and 20 percent of the people polled were government workers," Cruz said.
#53438 Oct 11, 2013
Boehner Abruptly Changes Strategy Following Outcry From Koch Brothers And Heritage
Last week, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) bluntly refused to bring up any debt ceiling vote in the House without demanding Democratic concessions first, telling ABC’s This Week,“We are not going to pass a clean debt limit increase.”
By Wednesday, conservative powerhouses Heritage Foundation and Koch Industries made room for a new plan when both urged Republicans to approve a debt ceiling increase with no strings attached. In a striking change in tone, House GOP leadership have presented a clean six-week debt ceiling extension that does not include a plan to fund the government.
At a press conference Thursday, House GOP leadership announced the new strategy, one day after Heritage Action CEO Michael Needham admitted the group will “give the speaker some flex on a short-term debt limit increase,” in order to extend the shutdown over Obamacare. On Wednesday, Koch officials increased the pressure with a letter for inquiring members who “have asked what our position is on this issue” that claims the conservative billionaires never supported withholding government funds over Obamacare. Privately, Koch officials told Congress a U.S. default would be a disaster.
Both groups have been driving forces throughout the debt and shutdown crises and are responsible for putting Tea Party members in Congress in the first place. Even now, it’s not clear if the Tea Party that Heritage and Koch helped to create will accept a deal on these terms, since debt ceiling truthers refuse to recognize that default is an economic threat.
take a peek here
#53439 Oct 11, 2013
Mark my word within the next few days Boehner will fold like a cheap lawn chair from Wal Mart
#53440 Oct 11, 2013
That is wonderful news that the Koch brothers are all about reducing the deficit! Does this mean they won't give anyone a hard time if a suggestion is made to include a bill that will defund corporate subsidies?? It appears they received $73.1 Million in Federal subsidies (also known as corporate welfare). If the Kochs are going to allow their GOP lap dogs to get rid of that, and the rest of the oil and gas companies do the same, we might just get ourselves a balanced budget!
#53441 Oct 11, 2013
I look for the action to shortly move from the House to the Senate and proceed along these lines with the Senate once again asking Boehner to name budget negotiators and this time Boehner accepts. That would return us to "regular order" and is the direction we should be heading anyway. What regular order translates into is both the House and Senate pass budgets (already done) and the two budgets go to a joint committee to work out differences. What often happens is that the negotiated budget includes an increase in the debt limit to pay for the spending in the budget. This is the route I now see this going. It puts it in the lap of the House and Senate and takes the President out of direct talks and grand bargains. While a budget is a 1 year deal it can create the framework for future budgets as well, indeed that is why most projections cover 10 years. Look for a budget deal over the next 3-4 weeks that includes the debt increase to fund the budget period. It may require a short CR while appropriation measures are hammered out that line up with the new budget. This will be long overdue. And, yes, it means that the Tea Party has been thrown under the bus. About time.
#53442 Oct 11, 2013
Fred Murtz......Are you from the Honeymooners...
#53444 Oct 12, 2013
tea baggers shut the governemt day and put thousands of federal workers out of work.thanks teabaggers when the people vote in oabama twice to beat 2 old white guys it sends a message to the limbaugh nut juice guzzlers
#53446 Oct 12, 2013
Yep and the teabaggers control Harry Reid to the point he would not bring 11 bills to the Senate floor for a vote. You retards really amaze me at times.
#53447 Oct 12, 2013
tea baggers are going down in flames their leader cruz will lead them down to the river LMAO!
soon all the limbaugh nut juice guzzlers will be wiped off the face of the earth the people have spoken in 2008 and 2012 presidential elections LMAO! obama beat mccain and the mutt by a landslide the american people have spoken and hillary will win in 2016 and the last tea bagger will commit harry carey LMAO!
#53448 Oct 12, 2013
why doesnt fox news have an interview of john mccain? here's why!!
Exit Ted Cruz, enter Paul Ryan
Sen. John McCain says the Obamacare defund detour may hurt the Republican Party for years to come. The polls show that the damage from the government shutdown has certainly been acute.
The Gallup poll that tracks the approval rating of Republicans in Congress looks like the bend of a hockey stick. At 28 percent approval, it is the lowest since the organization started measuring, and down ten points from last month. The Wall Street Journal poll has an identical finding: The GOP has never been less popular. By a margin of 22 points, the public blames Republicans over President Obama for the government shutdown, a bigger gap than the last major government shutdown in the mid-1990s. Seventy percent say that Republicans are putting their "political agenda" ahead of the good of the country.
Whether this is a permanent condition or a temporary one depends on getting Sen. Ted Cruz off the stage and Rep. Paul Ryan on--substituting a bristly champion of an unpopular strategy that divides the party with a congenial representative of the GOP's traditional views on taxing and spending. That's why House Republican leaders are trying to craft a deal with the White House to reopen government and start budget negotiations where House Budget Committee Chairman Ryan will be the key player.
all you limbaugh nut juice guzzlers take a peek here
#53449 Oct 12, 2013
"Oct 2008: "You'll never get elected and pass healthcare."
Nov 2008: "We'll never let you pass healthcare."
Jan 2009: "We are going to shout you down every time you try to pass healthcare."
July 2009: "We will fight to the death every attempt you make to pass healthcare."
Dec 2009: "We will destroy you if you even consider passing healthcare."
March 2010: "We can't believe you just passed healthcare."
April 2010: "We are going to overturn healthcare."
Sept 2010: "We are going to repeal healthcare."...
Jan 2011: "We are going to destroy healthcare."
Feb 2012: "We are going to elect a candidate who will immediately revoke healthcare."
June 2012: "We will go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare."
Aug 2012: "The American people will never re-elect you, because they don't want healthcare."
Oct 2012: "We can't wait to win the election and explode healthcare."
Nov 2012: "We can't believe you just got re-elected and that we can't repeal healthcare."
Feb 2013: "We're still going to vote to obliterate healthcare."
June 2013: "We can't believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare."
July 2013: "We're going to vote like 35 more times to erase healthcare."
Sept 2013: "We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare."
Oct 2013: "WHY AREN'T YOU NEGOTIATING?"".
#53452 Oct 12, 2013
Racial hating tea bags on that limbaugh nut juice be saying ever since the black man became president they was going to do something about it, and they have with all there ignorance........FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE. These dumb ass pathetic tea bags will never learn that they will never have enough juicy limbaugh nut juice to beat America down like no drama Obama is doing to them, quite easily.
#53454 Oct 12, 2013
Quit your crying racial hating tea bag. That limbaugh nut juice should heal your pain.
#53455 Oct 12, 2013
Exit Ted Cruz, Enter Paul Ryan
The Wisconsin congressman is being sent on another rescue mission—to save the GOP from Cruz’s mess.
Sen. John McCain says the Obamacare defund detour may hurt the Republican Party for years to come. The polls show that the damage from the government shutdown has certainly been acute. The Gallup poll that tracks the approval rating of Republicans in Congress looks like the bend of a hockey stick. At 28 percent approval, it is the lowest since the organization started measuring and down 10 points from last month. The Wall Street Journal poll has an identical finding: The GOP has never been less popular. By a margin of 22 points, the public blames Republicans over President Obama for the government shutdown, a bigger gap than the last major shutdown in the mid-1990s. Seventy percent say that Republicans are putting their "political agenda" ahead of the good of the country.
Whether this is a permanent condition or a temporary one depends on getting Sen. Ted Cruz off the stage and Rep. Paul Ryan on—substituting a bristly champion of an unpopular strategy that divides the party with a congenial representative of the GOP’s traditional views on taxing and spending. That's why House Republican leaders are trying to craft a deal with the White House to reopen government and start budget negotiations where House Budget Committee Chairman Ryan will be the key player. Overnight Thursday White House staffers worked with their House counterparts to find a way to give Republicans cover to reopen the government while not making it look like the president had given in to their demands. House Republicans need some kind of "win" to take to their constituents to prove that this battle wasn't pointless. On Friday, the president met with Senate Republicans to discuss their plans to return the government to full operations.
Why isnt FOX News reporting this?
get the real truth here
#53456 Oct 12, 2013
Quit posting as me !!!!!!!! I don't like retards using any of my IDs.
#53457 Oct 12, 2013
Still sucking your dad's nut juice and banging your mom who is your sister?
Slate.com ? LMAO!
#53458 Oct 12, 2013
You can keep your doctor.
You can keep your insurance.
Obamacare will cost you less. LMFAO
Sign up and get insured all you illegals...It might be awhile since the $650,000,000.00 website is fixed. LMFAO @ you retard!
#53459 Oct 12, 2013
Anyone up for a circle jerk? There will be lots on nut juice. bobby6969 isn't invited. YEAH BABY!!!!!!! More for me. yum yum yummy!!!!!!!
#53460 Oct 12, 2013
The GOP has never been less popular. By a margin of 22 points, the public blames Republicans over President Obama for the government shutdown, a bigger gap than the last major shutdown in the mid-1990s. Seventy percent say that Republicans are putting their "political agenda" ahead of the good of the country.
Why isnt the nazi party sean hannity or bill oreilly reporting on this?
where is fixed news at?
they still milking the benghazi issue? LMAO!
Hillary in 2016 !!!!!!!!!!
#53461 Oct 12, 2013
I just got back from the circle jerk! The floor looked like a case of Ivory dishwashing liquid fell off the shelf after I got done with everyone :)
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