#53441 Oct 11, 2013
I look for the action to shortly move from the House to the Senate and proceed along these lines with the Senate once again asking Boehner to name budget negotiators and this time Boehner accepts. That would return us to "regular order" and is the direction we should be heading anyway. What regular order translates into is both the House and Senate pass budgets (already done) and the two budgets go to a joint committee to work out differences. What often happens is that the negotiated budget includes an increase in the debt limit to pay for the spending in the budget. This is the route I now see this going. It puts it in the lap of the House and Senate and takes the President out of direct talks and grand bargains. While a budget is a 1 year deal it can create the framework for future budgets as well, indeed that is why most projections cover 10 years. Look for a budget deal over the next 3-4 weeks that includes the debt increase to fund the budget period. It may require a short CR while appropriation measures are hammered out that line up with the new budget. This will be long overdue. And, yes, it means that the Tea Party has been thrown under the bus. About time.
#53442 Oct 11, 2013
Fred Murtz......Are you from the Honeymooners...
#53444 Oct 12, 2013
tea baggers shut the governemt day and put thousands of federal workers out of work.thanks teabaggers when the people vote in oabama twice to beat 2 old white guys it sends a message to the limbaugh nut juice guzzlers
#53446 Oct 12, 2013
Yep and the teabaggers control Harry Reid to the point he would not bring 11 bills to the Senate floor for a vote. You retards really amaze me at times.
#53447 Oct 12, 2013
tea baggers are going down in flames their leader cruz will lead them down to the river LMAO!
soon all the limbaugh nut juice guzzlers will be wiped off the face of the earth the people have spoken in 2008 and 2012 presidential elections LMAO! obama beat mccain and the mutt by a landslide the american people have spoken and hillary will win in 2016 and the last tea bagger will commit harry carey LMAO!
#53448 Oct 12, 2013
why doesnt fox news have an interview of john mccain? here's why!!
Exit Ted Cruz, enter Paul Ryan
Sen. John McCain says the Obamacare defund detour may hurt the Republican Party for years to come. The polls show that the damage from the government shutdown has certainly been acute.
The Gallup poll that tracks the approval rating of Republicans in Congress looks like the bend of a hockey stick. At 28 percent approval, it is the lowest since the organization started measuring, and down ten points from last month. The Wall Street Journal poll has an identical finding: The GOP has never been less popular. By a margin of 22 points, the public blames Republicans over President Obama for the government shutdown, a bigger gap than the last major government shutdown in the mid-1990s. Seventy percent say that Republicans are putting their "political agenda" ahead of the good of the country.
Whether this is a permanent condition or a temporary one depends on getting Sen. Ted Cruz off the stage and Rep. Paul Ryan on--substituting a bristly champion of an unpopular strategy that divides the party with a congenial representative of the GOP's traditional views on taxing and spending. That's why House Republican leaders are trying to craft a deal with the White House to reopen government and start budget negotiations where House Budget Committee Chairman Ryan will be the key player.
all you limbaugh nut juice guzzlers take a peek here
#53449 Oct 12, 2013
"Oct 2008: "You'll never get elected and pass healthcare."
Nov 2008: "We'll never let you pass healthcare."
Jan 2009: "We are going to shout you down every time you try to pass healthcare."
July 2009: "We will fight to the death every attempt you make to pass healthcare."
Dec 2009: "We will destroy you if you even consider passing healthcare."
March 2010: "We can't believe you just passed healthcare."
April 2010: "We are going to overturn healthcare."
Sept 2010: "We are going to repeal healthcare."...
Jan 2011: "We are going to destroy healthcare."
Feb 2012: "We are going to elect a candidate who will immediately revoke healthcare."
June 2012: "We will go to the Supreme Court, and they will overturn healthcare."
Aug 2012: "The American people will never re-elect you, because they don't want healthcare."
Oct 2012: "We can't wait to win the election and explode healthcare."
Nov 2012: "We can't believe you just got re-elected and that we can't repeal healthcare."
Feb 2013: "We're still going to vote to obliterate healthcare."
June 2013: "We can't believe the Supreme Court just upheld healthcare."
July 2013: "We're going to vote like 35 more times to erase healthcare."
Sept 2013: "We are going to leverage a government shutdown into defunding, destroying, obliterating, overturning, repealing, dismantling, erasing and ripping apart healthcare."
Oct 2013: "WHY AREN'T YOU NEGOTIATING?"".
#53452 Oct 12, 2013
Racial hating tea bags on that limbaugh nut juice be saying ever since the black man became president they was going to do something about it, and they have with all there ignorance........FAILURE FAILURE FAILURE. These dumb ass pathetic tea bags will never learn that they will never have enough juicy limbaugh nut juice to beat America down like no drama Obama is doing to them, quite easily.
#53454 Oct 12, 2013
Quit your crying racial hating tea bag. That limbaugh nut juice should heal your pain.
#53455 Oct 12, 2013
Exit Ted Cruz, Enter Paul Ryan
The Wisconsin congressman is being sent on another rescue mission—to save the GOP from Cruz’s mess.
Sen. John McCain says the Obamacare defund detour may hurt the Republican Party for years to come. The polls show that the damage from the government shutdown has certainly been acute. The Gallup poll that tracks the approval rating of Republicans in Congress looks like the bend of a hockey stick. At 28 percent approval, it is the lowest since the organization started measuring and down 10 points from last month. The Wall Street Journal poll has an identical finding: The GOP has never been less popular. By a margin of 22 points, the public blames Republicans over President Obama for the government shutdown, a bigger gap than the last major shutdown in the mid-1990s. Seventy percent say that Republicans are putting their "political agenda" ahead of the good of the country.
Whether this is a permanent condition or a temporary one depends on getting Sen. Ted Cruz off the stage and Rep. Paul Ryan on—substituting a bristly champion of an unpopular strategy that divides the party with a congenial representative of the GOP’s traditional views on taxing and spending. That's why House Republican leaders are trying to craft a deal with the White House to reopen government and start budget negotiations where House Budget Committee Chairman Ryan will be the key player. Overnight Thursday White House staffers worked with their House counterparts to find a way to give Republicans cover to reopen the government while not making it look like the president had given in to their demands. House Republicans need some kind of "win" to take to their constituents to prove that this battle wasn't pointless. On Friday, the president met with Senate Republicans to discuss their plans to return the government to full operations.
Why isnt FOX News reporting this?
get the real truth here
#53456 Oct 12, 2013
Quit posting as me !!!!!!!! I don't like retards using any of my IDs.
#53457 Oct 12, 2013
Still sucking your dad's nut juice and banging your mom who is your sister?
Slate.com ? LMAO!
#53458 Oct 12, 2013
You can keep your doctor.
You can keep your insurance.
Obamacare will cost you less. LMFAO
Sign up and get insured all you illegals...It might be awhile since the $650,000,000.00 website is fixed. LMFAO @ you retard!
#53459 Oct 12, 2013
Anyone up for a circle jerk? There will be lots on nut juice. bobby6969 isn't invited. YEAH BABY!!!!!!! More for me. yum yum yummy!!!!!!!
#53460 Oct 12, 2013
The GOP has never been less popular. By a margin of 22 points, the public blames Republicans over President Obama for the government shutdown, a bigger gap than the last major shutdown in the mid-1990s. Seventy percent say that Republicans are putting their "political agenda" ahead of the good of the country.
Why isnt the nazi party sean hannity or bill oreilly reporting on this?
where is fixed news at?
they still milking the benghazi issue? LMAO!
Hillary in 2016 !!!!!!!!!!
#53461 Oct 12, 2013
I just got back from the circle jerk! The floor looked like a case of Ivory dishwashing liquid fell off the shelf after I got done with everyone :)
#53465 Oct 13, 2013
The party of "personal responsibility" has been exposed as a fraud. The ACA requires personal responsibility from a wide swath of the population requiring people to take the trouble and money to be insured.
Further, and here is their hidden objection, it requires corporate,(and in the case of individually held companies like the Koch Brothers Empire) personal responsibility for the healthcare coverage of people who are working for (read, dedicating their lives to) their companies.
That the Heritage Foundation would be working so hard at defunding and defeating a law which incorporated at its heart their own concept proposal (individual mandate) from the Heritage Foundation in 1993 demonstrates the perfidy of the Right. "Destroy the center, destroy the left, move everything further right until there is no government left to oppose us" has become their evident goal.
This opportunity must be taken to expose their evil intentions. Little of the discussion has touched on the millions of people's lives which are destroyed each year by the lack of insurance, devastating illness untreatable for lack of funds, individuals and families ruined financially, problems the healthcare law addresses.
Mr. Obama, in becoming a target for attack from so many sides for so many reasons, has succeeded in flushing out the formerly hidden groups which now mistakenly think the majority of the country supports their position. It is time for the majority to speak, now, and on election day
#53466 Oct 13, 2013
The Captain has spoken....we have a Supreme Court that wants to undermime our representative democracy with unlimited finacial contributions from people like the Koch brothers. They buy these nitwits and then own them lock stock and barrel. How can this be good for any of us?
#53468 Oct 13, 2013
So raise taxes on the rich. To me this is pretty simple. If you are serious about closing the income-to-expenditures gap, and see that as the big threat to civilization as we know it, then agree to raise taxes a smidgen on the people who can afford to pay them. There are a lot of options -- financial transactions tax would be high on my list; carbon tax; lower the estate tax exemption down to 1990s levels; lift the cap on earnings subject to Social Security tax.
And you are also required to notice that even in a severe recession, Obama has cut the annual deficit in half, rather than spinning lies about how he single-handedly has quadrupled it and driven us out of pristine fiscal responsibility into chaos and disaster.
IMO most of the blathering about the debt and the deficit is just window-dressing for the ideology-driven campaign to eliminate all social programs including Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment benefits, WIC, housing assistance, fuel assistance, and anything else that transfers a few pennies to poor people. Only programs that transfer billions to wealthy people (farm subsidies, military contracts for stuff the Army doesn't even want, bank bailouts) will survive and get increases.
From Robert Reich:
"In 2010 he agreed to extend all of the Bush tax cuts through the end of 2012. Were they satisfied? Of course not.......In response, the President offered an overly-generous $4 trillion “Grand Bargain,” including cuts in Social Security and Medicare and whopping cuts in domestic spending (bringing it to its lowest level as a share of gross domestic product in over half a century)......
When they demanded more, Obama agreed to a Super Committee to find bigger cuts, and if the Super Committee failed, a “sequester” that would automatically and indiscriminately slice everything in the federal budget except Social Security and Medicare.......
By the end of 2012, they insisted that the Bush tax cuts be permanently extended or the nation would go over the “fiscal cliff.” Once again, Obama caved, agreeing to permanently extend the Bush tax cuts for incomes up to $400,000.........
Obama offered more cuts in Medicare and a “chained CPI” to reduce Social Security payments, in exchange for Republican concessions on taxes......"
#53471 Oct 13, 2013
"Obama has cut the annual deficit in half, rather than spinning lies about how he single-handedly has quadrupled it and driven us out of pristine fiscal responsibility into chaos and disaster."
In a nutshell, Obama isn't spending as much but he is still spending money we don't have. That's why it's called deficit spending.
There is a huge difference between the deficit and the debt. No, he has not quadrupled his deficit spending; he has added more to the national debt in 5 years than his predecessor has done in 8. He has NOT cut our total debt in half! Look at the National Debt Clock. It's rapidly approaching $17 TRILLION dollars. On top of yearly deficit expenditures, you'll have the added cost of Obamacare, which will be closer to $4 trillion over 10 years than the original projection of $900 billion over 10 years. We're looking at a debt of over $20 trillion by the time Obama leaves office. That is unsustainable.
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