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Democratic thing a lie wrote:
Aug 21, 2013, 12:08pm CDT
UPS drops health coverage for spouses, blames Obamacare
United Parcel Service, a company with a significant presence in North Texas, plans to remove thousands of spouses from its health care plan, putting part of the blame on the health law commonly referred to as Obamacare.
Dallas-Fort Worth is one of six U.S. hubs for Atlanta-based UPS.
The shipping giant has six facilities in the area and more than 10,000 employees in North Texas.
UPS officials in North Texas weren't immediately available for comment.
UPS will remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere.
The move applies to non-union U.S. workers only.
and as usual you missed

http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/21/news/companie...

"In the case of UPS, the husbands and wives of employees who don't work -- or who are not offered coverage by their own employer -- will get to stay on the UPS plan.
The change will likely impact UPS's managerial and office staff."
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The BHO Legacy wrote:
Ex-Rep. Allen West calls out Obama over Oklahoma killing
Wednesday, August 21, 2013
After President Obama waded into the Trayvon Martin shooting death and subsequent acquittal of George Zimmerman, critics of the president wonder whether he’ll also address the senseless killing of an Australian college student in Oklahoma last week.
On Twitter, former Rep. Allen B. West, Florida Republican, hinted that there may be a racial double standard at play, given the lack of outrage from Mr. Obama and civil rights leaders.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
and yet

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com...

"a statement that Col. Allen West posted in March 2012 on his Facebook page. In his statement, West criticized the local authorities for their handling of the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
"The shooter, Mr Zimmerman, should have been held in custody and certainly should not be walking free, still having a concealed weapons carry permit. From my reading, it seems this young man was pursued and there was no probable cause to engage him, certainly not pursue and shoot him….against the direction of the 911 responder."

sounds like cashiered Army officer West was injecting himself into the death of Trayvon Martin.
something he claims should not have been done.
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The BHO Legacy wrote:
UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare
Aug 21, 2013
United Parcel Service Inc. plans to remove thousands of spouses from its medical plan because they are eligible for coverage elsewhere. The Atlanta-based logistics company points to the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, as a big reason for the decision, reports Kaiser Health News.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_ca...
and what UPS said was

"In the memo, UPS said it's willing to take care of its own, but it won't bear a burden that other companies can take on.

"We believe your spouse should be covered by their own employer -- just as UPS has a responsibility to offer coverage to you, our employee," the memo states."

"Spouses of UPS employees who don't work -- or who are not offered coverage by their own employer -- will get to stay on the UPS plan."

http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/21/news/companie...
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they saw you coming tea bag. Your too gullible. And ignorant for your own good, BHO
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Iraq Gas Costs 5¢ Gallon
Thanks To US Taxpayers

June,6,2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)- While Americans are shelling out record prices for fuel, Iraqis pay only about 5 cents a gallon for gasoline a benefit of hundreds of millions of dollars subsidies bankrolled by American taxpayers.

Before the war, forecasters predicted that by invading Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein, America would benefit from increased exports of oil from Iraq, which has the world's second largest petroleum reserves.

That would mean CHEAP GAS FOR AMERICAN MOTORISTS and a boost for the oil-dependent American economy. More than a year after the invasion, that logic has been flipped on its head. Now the average price for gasoline in the United States is running $2.05 a gallon 50 cents more than the pre-invasion price. Instead, THE ONLY PEOPLE GETTING CHEAP GAS as a result of the invasion ARE THE IRAQIS.

Filling a 22-gallon tank in Baghdad with low-grade fuel costs just $1.10, plus a 50-cent tip for the attendant. A tankful of high-test costs $2.75.

In Britain, by contrast, gasoline prices hit $5.79 per gallon last week $127 for a tankful.

Although Iraq is a major petroleum producer, the country has little capacity to refine its own gasoline. So the U.S. government pays about $1.50 a gallon to buy fuel in neighboring countries and deliver it to Iraqi stations. A three-month supply costs American taxpayers more than $500 million, not including the cost of military escorts to fend off attacks by Iraqi insurgents. The arrangement keeps a fleet of 4,200 tank trucks constantly on the move, ferrying fuel to Iraq.

"We thank the Americans," Baghdad taxi driver Osama Hashim said. "They risked their lives to liberate us and now they are improving our lives," said Hashim, 26, topping up the tank on his beat-up 1983 Volkswagen.

Iraq's fuel subsidies, which are intended to mollify drivers used to low-priced fuel under Saddam, have coupled with the opening of the borders to create an anarchic car culture in Baghdad. Cheap used cars shipped from Europe and Asia are flooding into Iraq. A 10-year-old BMW in good condition costs just $5,000. Since gas is so cheap, anyone with a car can become a taxi driver. Drivers jam the streets, offering rides for as little as 250 dinars about 17 cents.

Analysts say the U.S. gas subsidies can't last forever and Iraqis may be in for an unpleasant shock when they end. In the meantime, however, THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER CONTINUES TO FOOT A HUGE BILL.

"The U.S. taxpayer has a right to be indignant, and Iraqis have to be warned about the long-run damages of this," said Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq analyst with the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "The minute the aid goes out, the party is over. And there's going to be A HELL OF A HANGOVER."

The U.S. government paid even more last year for Iraqis' gasoline between $1.59 and $1.70 a gallon when the imports were contracted to Halliburton, the Texas oil services giant formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney. The cheap fuel is spurring unsustainable demand, promoting wasteful use of energy and transportation, and squandering Iraq's oil output that might otherwise be exported, Cordesman said.

"You're leading people to buy cars that aren't affordable at normal costs," he said. "You need to move toward real market prices as quickly as you can without causing instability."

Iraqi drivers protest that the price difference between a gallon of gas in the United States and Iraq is fair, because the average Iraqi earns Baghdad.
around $1,000 a year, a thirtieth of the average U.S. wage.

"If the price of gas goes up, we'll see lots of anger in the street," said cab driver Hashim, at a grimy filling station on Saadoun Street in central
Baghdad.


© Copyright 2004 Associated Press

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Iraq Gas Costs 5¢ Gallon
Thanks To US Taxpayers
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)- While Americans are shelling out record prices for fuel, Iraqis pay only about 5 cents a gallon for gasoline a benefit of hundreds of millions of dollars subsidies bankrolled by American taxpayers.

Before the war, forecasters predicted that by invading Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein, America would benefit from increased exports of oil from Iraq, which has the world's second largest petroleum reserves.

That would mean CHEAP GAS FOR AMERICAN MOTORISTS and a boost for the oil-dependent American economy. More than a year after the invasion, that logic has been flipped on its head. Now the average price for gasoline in the United States is running $2.05 a gallon 50 cents more than the pre-invasion price. Instead, THE ONLY PEOPLE GETTING CHEAP GAS as a result of the invasion ARE THE IRAQIS.

Filling a 22-gallon tank in Baghdad with low-grade fuel costs just $1.10, plus a 50-cent tip for the attendant. A tankful of high-test costs $2.75.

In Britain, by contrast, gasoline prices hit $5.79 per gallon last week $127 for a tankful.

Although Iraq is a major petroleum producer, the country has little capacity to refine its own gasoline. So the U.S. government pays about $1.50 a gallon to buy fuel in neighboring countries and deliver it to Iraqi stations. A three-month supply costs American taxpayers more than $500 million, not including the cost of military escorts to fend off attacks by Iraqi insurgents. The arrangement keeps a fleet of 4,200 tank trucks constantly on the move, ferrying fuel to Iraq.

"We thank the Americans," Baghdad taxi driver Osama Hashim said. "They risked their lives to liberate us and now they are improving our lives," said Hashim, 26, topping up the tank on his beat-up 1983 Volkswagen.

Iraq's fuel subsidies, which are intended to mollify drivers used to low-priced fuel under Saddam, have coupled with the opening of the borders to create an anarchic car culture in Baghdad. Cheap used cars shipped from Europe and Asia are flooding into Iraq. A 10-year-old BMW in good condition costs just $5,000. Since gas is so cheap, anyone with a car can become a taxi driver. Drivers jam the streets, offering rides for as little as 250 dinars about 17 cents.

Analysts say the U.S. gas subsidies can't last forever and Iraqis may be in for an unpleasant shock when they end. In the meantime, however, THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER CONTINUES TO FOOT A HUGE BILL.

"The U.S. taxpayer has a right to be indignant, and Iraqis have to be warned about the long-run damages of this," said Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq analyst with the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "The minute the aid goes out, the party is over. And there's going to be A HELL OF A HANGOVER."

The U.S. government paid even more last year for Iraqis' gasoline between $1.59 and $1.70 a gallon when the imports were contracted to Halliburton, the Texas oil services giant formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney. The cheap fuel is spurring unsustainable demand, promoting wasteful use of energy and transportation, and squandering Iraq's oil output that might otherwise be exported, Cordesman said.

"You're leading people to buy cars that aren't affordable at normal costs," he said. "You need to move toward real market prices as quickly as you can without causing instability."

Iraqi drivers protest that the price difference between a gallon of gas in the United States and Iraq is fair, because the average Iraqi earns around $1,000 a year, a thirtieth of the average U.S. wage.

"If the price of gas goes up, we'll see lots of anger in the street," said cab driver Hashim, at a grimy filling station on Saadoun Street in central Baghdad.

© Copyright 2004 Associated Press

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Iraq Gas Costs 5¢ Gallon
Thanks To US Taxpayers
6-6-4

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP)- While Americans are shelling out record prices for fuel, Iraqis pay only about 5 cents a gallon for gasoline a benefit of hundreds of millions of dollars subsidies bankrolled by American taxpayers.

Before the war, forecasters predicted that by invading Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein, America would benefit from increased exports of oil from Iraq, which has the world's second largest petroleum reserves.

That would mean CHEAP GAS FOR AMERICAN MOTORISTS and a boost for the oil-dependent American economy. More than a year after the invasion, that logic has been flipped on its head. Now the average price for gasoline in the United States is running $2.05 a gallon 50 cents more than the pre-invasion price. Instead, THE ONLY PEOPLE GETTING CHEAP GAS as a result of the invasion ARE THE IRAQIS.

Filling a 22-gallon tank in Baghdad with low-grade fuel costs just $1.10, plus a 50-cent tip for the attendant. A tankful of high-test costs $2.75.

In Britain, by contrast, gasoline prices hit $5.79 per gallon last week $127 for a tankful.

Although Iraq is a major petroleum producer, the country has little capacity to refine its own gasoline. So the U.S. government pays about $1.50 a gallon to buy fuel in neighboring countries and deliver it to Iraqi stations. A three-month supply costs American taxpayers more than $500 million, not including the cost of military escorts to fend off attacks by Iraqi insurgents. The arrangement keeps a fleet of 4,200 tank trucks constantly on the move, ferrying fuel to Iraq.

"We thank the Americans," Baghdad taxi driver Osama Hashim said. "They risked their lives to liberate us and now they are improving our lives," said Hashim, 26, topping up the tank on his beat-up 1983 Volkswagen.

Iraq's fuel subsidies, which are intended to mollify drivers used to low-priced fuel under Saddam, have coupled with the opening of the borders to create an anarchic car culture in Baghdad. Cheap used cars shipped from Europe and Asia are flooding into Iraq. A 10-year-old BMW in good condition costs just $5,000. Since gas is so cheap, anyone with a car can become a taxi driver. Drivers jam the streets, offering rides for as little as 250 dinars about 17 cents.

Analysts say the U.S. gas subsidies can't last forever and Iraqis may be in for an unpleasant shock when they end. In the meantime, however, THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER CONTINUES TO FOOT A HUGE BILL.

"The U.S. taxpayer has a right to be indignant, and Iraqis have to be warned about the long-run damages of this," said Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq analyst with the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "The minute the aid goes out, the party is over. And there's going to be A HELL OF A HANGOVER."

The U.S. government paid even more last year for Iraqis' gasoline between $1.59 and $1.70 a gallon when the imports were contracted to Halliburton, the Texas oil services giant formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney. The cheap fuel is spurring unsustainable demand, promoting wasteful use of energy and transportation, and squandering Iraq's oil output that might otherwise be exported, Cordesman said.

"You're leading people to buy cars that aren't affordable at normal costs," he said. "You need to move toward real market prices as quickly as you can without causing instability."

Iraqi drivers protest that the price difference between a gallon of gas in the United States and Iraq is fair, because the average Iraqi earns around $1,000 a year, a thirtieth of the average U.S. wage.

"If the price of gas goes up, we'll see lots of anger in the street," said cab driver Hashim, at a grimy filling station on Saadoun Street in central Baghdad.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press

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Gov 4 life!
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Whomever is against immigration reform.
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commie obummer wrote:
<quoted text>
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I don’t hate Obama because he’s black.
I hate Obama because he’s RED.
You lost, get over it.
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Uh, correction: America lost when the Incompetent One was elected; however, his election speaks ver loudly of the current low education and quality of the American people. America might never get over it.
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LETS GO BUCS.............
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Recovery wrote:
Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
President Obama likes to talk about income inequality, but what matters far more is the actual income of the typical American.
And how has the typical American household income fared on Obama's watch? Well, the economic "recovery" has now spanned an Olympiad, and during that time the typical American household income has not only dropped—it has dropped more than twice as much as it did during the recession.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/incomes-h...
and the hack author anderson missed some things

http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/us-income...

"Incomes kept falling during the 36-month period since then, dropping to $50,964 in June 2012."

"the most recent month for which figures are available (June 2013)
$52,098"

so from june in 2012 to june 2013 American household income went up by 1134 dollars.

yep the hack author missed that.

but it is not the first time anderson has shown he does not know what he is talking about.

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-chai...

"Anderson proceeds to cite the Congressional Budget Office as evidence that the cost of the doc fix is being used to help fund the Affordable Care Act. He writes:

The CBO begs to differ:“The provisions that would result in the largest budget savings include these: permanent reductions in the annual updates to Medicare’s payment rates for most services in the fee-for-service sector ... yielding budgetary savings of $186 billion over 10 years.” That’s the physician pay cut."

" Here is the entire quote. I've bold-faced the part omitted by Anderson:

Permanent reductions in the annual updates to Medicare’s payment rates for most services in the fee-for-service sector (other than physicians’ services), yielding budgetary savings of $186 billion over 10 years.
Did you catch that? Anderson used ellipses to remove the part of the quote that disproves his entire claim. He removed the part that says "other than physicians' services," and then wrote, "That's the physician pay cut."

"But figures like Anderson are simply not up to the job. And once some factual misapprehension has made its way into the right-wing echo chamber, it's nearly impossible to dislodge. The same basic phenomenon can be seen is debates over climate change, supply-side economics, and other issues. You have a whole ideological movement that, to a substantial degree, relies upon the pseudo-expertise of cranks and hacks."
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profile patriots wrote:
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“How can you put Obamacare under an Internal Revenue Service?
Remember,
this is an administration which will not profile terrorists,
but [will] profile patriots,
profile constitutional groups,”
and then you have.

"Thomas allegedly said that there “is no way for us, as militiamen, to save this country, to save Georgia, without doing something that’s highly highly illegal. Murder. That’s fucking illegal, but it’s gotta be done,” Thomas allegedly said.

“When it comes time to saving the Constitution, that means some people gotta die,” Thomas allegedly said."

"During one of the group’s meetings in September, which was recorded by the confidential source, Crump arrived and said that he would like to make 10 pounds of ricin and disperse it in various United States cities, including Atlanta. Crump described a scenario for dispersing the ricin in Atlanta in which the toxin would be blown from a car traveling on the interstates"

so those "patriots" can defend the Constitution by spreading biological toxins on the roads ?

sounds like some of those "patriots" need profiling for terrorist acts.
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dbars 831 billion wrote:
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What did the CBO forget to include in this report?
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In February, the Congressional Budget Office published its latest report on the "estimated impact" of the stimulus.
Although it had originally estimated the stimulus would cost $787 billion, CBO now says it will cost $831 billion.
In the second quarter of 2012, CBO estimates, somewhere between 200,000 to 1.2 million people have jobs they otherwise would not have were it not for the stimulus.
Assuming, optimistically, that the number is 1.2 million, that means each of those jobs cost taxpayers $692,500.
As time goes on, the maximum number of jobs sustained by Obama's stimulus will decline rapidly.
By the first quarter of 2013, it will sustain between 100,000 and 600,000 jobs, says CBO.
If it is 600,000, each of those jobs will have cost taxpayers $1,385,000.
By the fourth quarter of 2013, the maximum number of jobs it sustains will be 400,000 — at a cost to taxpayers of $2,077,500 per job.
It is true that Obama entered office in the midst of a deep recession.
But, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, that recession ended in June 2009, over four years ago.
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obummer, a five year failure
and you are using false logic to claim for example that a stimulus payment of ten million dollars to rebuild a road by ten men,means that the individual workers got one million dollars each.
you forget the value of the rebuilding of the road.

a road that needed to be worked on.

but while your at it.
the stimulus contained tax cuts for businesses.
if it is such a expensive failure the right wing should be clamoring for the removal of the tax cuts as they did not work.

so which is it a failure or a success?
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Hey, remember that wronger-than-wrong Wall Street Journal editorial asserting that even taking every dollar from the rich wouldn't be enough to close the deficit? The one that attempts to prove a demonstrably false point but winds up demonstrating the opposite? Mitch McConnell, among others on Capitol Hill, is talking it up:

Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the minority leader, is also among those who have pointed to a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed that said that taking every taxable dollar of top earning Americans still wouldn’t fully take care of the current deficit.

The good news is that once they learn that the math in this this editorial is clearly erroneous, McConnell and the other Republicans will stop citing it and will alter their position on the tax debate. Right?

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-chai...
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McConnell's Lap Dog Barks

The other day, I pointed out Mitch McConnell's sneaky, dog whistle answer to the question of whether President Obama is Muslim:

To say that you "take him at his word" means two things. First of all, it suggests that the president's word is the only information we have to go on here. Of course, that is absurd. Second, if further suggests that, the evidence being weak or inconclusive, McConnell is taking the high road by accepting Obama's testimony.

Wall Street Journal blogger James Taranto sticks up for McConnell:

Chait makes it look as if McConnell raised the question of the president's religion, when in fact the full context makes clear Gregory brought it up and McConnell tried his best to avoid the subject.[extensive quotes of McConnell refsing to address the question of whether Obama is a Muslim]...

At this point, McConnell states, "The president says he's a Christian, I take him at his word." What would Chait have had him say? "The president says he's a Christian. But don't take him at his word, look at the evidence ..." Then what? Chait says it's "absurd" to think that "the president's word is

If you want to put the question to rest, you answer, "Of course he is a Christian." Taranto seems to think the only way to answer the question is to begin your answer with the phrase, "The president says he's a Christian." The whole point is that you don't frame the answer this way.

Taranto also thinks Obama's say-so is the only information here. How about the fact that he converted to Christianity? And joined a church? And attended that church for years? Those facts are a matter of public record. McConnell's answer is a way of suggesting that the answer is unknown but he's generously giving Obama the benefit of the doubt.

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/jonathan-chai...
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terrorist acts wrote:
"patriots" need profiling for terrorist acts
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New York Times, former Clinton adviser Dick Morris disclosed on Monday that it was
Clinton himself,
and not Attorney General Janet Reno,
who called the shots during the 1993 botched invasion that led to the death of
dick morris?

he has the credibility of Baghdad Bob.

" Morris resigned on the same day that Bill Clinton spoke and accepted the nomination at the Democratic National Convention."

August 29, 1996

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris

yet he claims to know what happened on inauguration day months later?

from a right wing source
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php...

"She told him in a meeting right before the inauguration day"



morris the same guy who claimed

"As of November 5, the day before the 2012 presidential election, Morris predicted on his website and in an article in The Hill that the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, would win the Presidency in a landslide "approaching the magnitude of Obama's against McCain." Specifically, he stated that Romney would win 325 electoral votes and that Obama would win 213

how accurate was morris?

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