Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50720 Jul 5, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
Liberals blame GOP, Fox, Drudge in Obamacare fiasco
The pro-Obama media watchdog Media Matters Wednesday, defending the administration's surprise move to cancel implementation of major elements of Obamacare, said that Republicans were to blame and accused conservative media leaders like Fox News and the Drudge Report for ignoring the GOP's role.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/liberals-blame-...
LOL! The right remains clueless. Obama just made a move that STRENGTHENS the ACA.

Only about 4% of large employers don't already provide health insurance, so there aren't many who are affected by this decision. It is hardly a "major element" as the right claims.

But by delaying the so-called employer mandate, there will be no employer penalty when employees choose to enter the health insurance exchanges for their coverage. And that means more Americans will be participating in the exchanges, which actually ARE a major element of the ACA.

If the administration actually believed the ACA was in trouble, they wouldn't be moving to ensure that MORE people participate in it.

The entire right is completely blinded by their ideology on this issue. They simply can't see straight and so they can't recognize how they are losing on this issue.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50721 Jul 5, 2013
DoD Coup wrote:
Obama's Legacy will probably be the first ever military coup in US history. He is just as unpopular as Morosi became in one year.
ROFLMAO!

And up is down, the sky isn't blue, and the moon is made of green cheese.

Any other make-believe stories you'd like to tell?

LMAO!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50722 Jul 5, 2013
DoD Coup wrote:
I wonder when the military will coup under Obama? Obama supports military coups, so it is just karma.
Sorry, but your personal wish to overthrow President Obama with violence simply isn't going to come true.

The United States has the most robust democracy in the history of the world. There will never - NEVER - be a military coup here. Our nation simply doesn't work that way.
DoD Coup

Hazleton, PA

#50723 Jul 5, 2013
The DoD coup is more probable than Obama having a good job approval rating. He has been rocked with multiple scandals and is becoming weaker do to that. People already vote for the lesser of two evils so a self appointed evil is just as acceptible to them.
DoD Coup

Hazleton, PA

#50724 Jul 5, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but your personal wish to overthrow President Obama with violence simply isn't going to come true.
The United States has the most robust democracy in the history of the world. There will never - NEVER - be a military coup here. Our nation simply doesn't work that way.
How is a country with such low voter turnout considered a robust democracy?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50725 Jul 5, 2013
DoD Coup wrote:
The DoD coup is more probable than Obama having a good job approval rating. He has been rocked with multiple scandals and is becoming weaker do to that. People already vote for the lesser of two evils so a self appointed evil is just as acceptible to them.
The odds of a coup are 0%. Even Bush's approval never got that low. Obama's sure as hell won't. LOL!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50726 Jul 5, 2013
DoD Coup wrote:
<quoted text>How is a country with such low voter turnout considered a robust democracy?
So you think that voting is what makes a democracy? That's all there is to it?
mr mArk

UK

#50728 Jul 5, 2013
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Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50730 Jul 6, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
Obamacare called ‘The fiasco for the ages’
...The best the Democrats can say about Obamacare is that it’s an approaching train wreck, in the memorable description of Sen. Max Baucus of Montana. Mr. Baucus was one of the authors of the legislation and now he’s hurrying home to Montana for good, anxious to avert his eyes from all the hair, teeth and eyeballs soon to be scattered along the railroad right-of-way.
Pundits and professors are rifling through the thesaurus, looking for the right word to describe what the Wall Street Journal calls “a fiasco for the ages.” The Journal editorialists reminded everyone that they “fought the Affordable Care Act from start to passage, and we’d like to apologize to our readers. It turns out we weren’t nearly critical enough.”
The editors of The New York Times, Mr. Obama’s most reliable sycophants, are deep in mourning, but working furiously to apply more rouge to the corpse before it turns the parlor too fragrant for a wake. It’s summer, and they’re running out of ice.
The “downside” to the delay in implementing the employer mandate is that it gives Republican critics the facts and figures, the “ammunition to portray the health care reforms as a failure,” The Times says. But not to worry, the year’s delay decreed by the president will allow the Internal Revenue Service time to figure out “how this mandate will work … it is more important to do this right than to do it quickly.”
It’s ever so reassuring to know the IRS is on the case.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/...
** BREAKING!!** BREAKING!!**

Rightwing partisans don't like Obamacare!!

.

LMAO!
DoD Coup

Hazleton, PA

#50733 Jul 6, 2013
Now Dan has to deal with the possiblity of a conspiracy to overthrow the government. He has to deny it will ever happen, even when the military and intelligence apparatus have been orchastrating these coups in other countries for decades.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50736 Jul 6, 2013
DoD Coup wrote:
Now Dan has to deal with the possiblity of a conspiracy to overthrow the government. He has to deny it will ever happen, even when the military and intelligence apparatus have been orchastrating these coups in other countries for decades.
Now DoD has to deal with the fact that there is zero possibility of a military coup in the United States. He has to claim it will happen, even though there has never been anything approaching that possibility in any modern western democracy.
DoD Coup

Hazleton, PA

#50737 Jul 6, 2013
Modern western democracy?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50738 Jul 6, 2013
DoD Coup wrote:
Modern western democracy?
Which word are you having trouble with?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#50741 Jul 6, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think that voting is what makes a democracy? That's all there is to it?
I think that person did not necessariliy imply that. He was just stating that low voter turnout is not a good sign. Of course, voter suppression of young people, minorities, and women, is good for white rightwing Republicans. That is not good for democracy, however. What happens is partly due to low turnout in non-Presidential years, which is partly the fault of young persons and minorities who do not vote in those elections, even when they are not being discouraged by discriminatory voter laws passed by GOP legislatures and signed by GOP governors, or by dirty tricks by a Secretary of State such as Blackwell in Ohio in 2004, when there were nonfunctioning voter machines in black precincts.

If you want to take the view that voter turnout in primaries is also extremely important, and not just in general elections, you would be correct about that. If you think town hall decisions on local matters, with public hearings and open discussion, are good practice for democracy - that is OK when it is a good tradition, but not when a mob is recruited by one side or the other. If you think that court decisions should prevent voter suppression, rather than encourage it, then you would be taking a pro-democracy view.

On top of that, there are plenty of groups one can join, to support lobbying and campaign contributions to candidates one agrees with. There are letters to the editor. There is good behavior in one's own personal life - obeying all reasonable laws, and only disobeying the unreasonable ones if there is no better way to overturn them.

I would be interested in what you meant. I might even agree with you on some process matters and disagree on some substance. process matters very much. it helps to agree on fair processes.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#50742 Jul 6, 2013
you folks are too cryptic. you need to explain what you mean, in specifics. it would be interesting if you did.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50743 Jul 6, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I think that person did not necessariliy imply that. He was just stating that low voter turnout is not a good sign. Of course, voter suppression of young people, minorities, and women, is good for white rightwing Republicans. That is not good for democracy, however. What happens is partly due to low turnout in non-Presidential years, which is partly the fault of young persons and minorities who do not vote in those elections, even when they are not being discouraged by discriminatory voter laws passed by GOP legislatures and signed by GOP governors, or by dirty tricks by a Secretary of State such as Blackwell in Ohio in 2004, when there were nonfunctioning voter machines in black precincts.
If you want to take the view that voter turnout in primaries is also extremely important, and not just in general elections, you would be correct about that. If you think town hall decisions on local matters, with public hearings and open discussion, are good practice for democracy - that is OK when it is a good tradition, but not when a mob is recruited by one side or the other. If you think that court decisions should prevent voter suppression, rather than encourage it, then you would be taking a pro-democracy view.
On top of that, there are plenty of groups one can join, to support lobbying and campaign contributions to candidates one agrees with. There are letters to the editor. There is good behavior in one's own personal life - obeying all reasonable laws, and only disobeying the unreasonable ones if there is no better way to overturn them.
I would be interested in what you meant. I might even agree with you on some process matters and disagree on some substance. process matters very much. it helps to agree on fair processes.
My point is that democracy is not just elections. It is much more than that.

If someone wants to claim that the US does not have a strong and robust democracy, pointing to voter turnout that's lower than they would like it to be isn't sufficient to prove their point. Free and fair elections are just one component of a democracy.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50744 Jul 6, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
you folks are too cryptic. you need to explain what you mean, in specifics. it would be interesting if you did.
I am very happy to more fully explain my points to anyone who doesn't understand them.
change your ways

West Mifflin, PA

#50745 Jul 6, 2013
Republican: My Own Party is Full of Racists .



embrace the blacks, the immigrants, women, gays ,the disabled or else lose election after election........

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50750 Jul 6, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
Secretary of State John Kerry fiddles with his rigging while Egypt burns
Secretary of State John Kerry spent time lounging around on his yacht Wednesday while the Egyptian military was deposing their country's democratically elected president Mohammed Morsi, according to various reports.
When Kerry was first spotted on his yatch, called "Isabel," near his vacation home in Nantucket, State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki called the report "completely inaccurate" saying that the Secretary of State had been "working all day and on the phone dealing with the crisis in Egypt," according to CBS News.
Psaki even went so far as to deny that Kerry was even on the boat.
...However, Psaki has now completely reversed course and acknowledges that Kerry "briefly" spent time on his boat Wednesday where he "worked around the clock all day including participating in the President's meeting with his national security council."
Seemingly oblivious to Kerry's recreational activities, the White House released a photo of President Obama meeting with his top security team to talk about Egypt on Wednesday. Kerry is not in the photograph.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/john_ke...
Right.

Because who has ever heard of a $7 million, 76 foot yacht having access to television, internet, and telephone communication?

Honest to God - could you be MORE oblivious and petty?
DoD Coup

Hazleton, PA

#50754 Jul 6, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Which word are you having trouble with?
Somebody asks your definition and you give no answer. You must be in elected office.

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