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Not again wrote:
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If the guns that the private business is banning are not illegal, and they probably are not at this time, then I would say it is discrimination to not allow them while allowing others.Get your head out of the sand, this is just their start and it needs to stop now.
You think it's discrimination for a private exposition to decide what products they want displayed at their event? How does that work?

The guns they said they didn't want at their hunting and fishing show are guns that aren't used for hunting and fishing. I'll bet they don't invite ski and sky-diving venders either. Is that discrimination too?

You're being blinded by your ideology. Take a breath and stop and think. You are posting things that make no sense.
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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal tells GOP:‘Stop being the stupid party.’
Jindal said 'offensive and bizarre comments' by some Republicans hurt the whole party. Haley Barbour, the former Mississippi governor and RNC chair, seconded Jindal's message on Friday.

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The potential 2016 presidential contender gave the keynote speech at a meeting of the Republican National Committee on Thursday, arguing that the party must adjust its message to attract a broader segment of the country.

“We’ve got to stop being the stupid party. It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults,” he said.“We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I’m here to say we’ve had enough of that.”

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It wasn't Jindal's first dose of tough love for the GOP. The Republican rising star has been casting himself as a reformer of his own party since Mitt Romney's loss to President Obama in November.

His comments were seconded on Friday by Haley Barbour, the former RNC chairman and Mississippi governor.

Barbour said Republicans like former Senate candidates Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin hurt the rest of the party with their inflammatory comments about rape and pregnancy.
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"We have to accept that abortion should be legal, we have to accept the fact that the Hispanics are part of our culture". " We have to agree that gays
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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You think it's discrimination for a private exposition to decide what products they want displayed at their event? How does that work?
The guns they said they didn't want at their hunting and fishing show are guns that aren't used for hunting and fishing. I'll bet they don't invite ski and sky-diving venders either. Is that discrimination too?
You're being blinded by your ideology. Take a breath and stop and think. You are posting things that make no sense.
Sky Diving is a sport and there is nothing wrong with them going to a sportsman show,Race cars also attend,What wrong with that, It's not only a fishing and hunting show. They are not going to say only Fords can attend.
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Effington wrote:
OPINIONS: Gov. Tom Corbett says he will take the lead this year on a plan to privatize the state's liquor distribution system, after years of inaction on the part of the General Assembly. Do you think greater involvement on Corbett's part can get it done? Do you think it should be done at all?
I think those are good questions. I, for one, agree with the privatization plan. In an effort to steer the conversation away from what it has become, lets talk about something relevant. What do you think?
Privatization of the liquor stores will bring Pennsylvania out of the dark ages and in line with other states.

Here's hoping Governor Corbett follows through.

But the unholy alliance of Bible-thumpers and unionized liquor store clerks seems to scare the legislators.
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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So would you support the government preventing private businesses from making independent decisions about the sort of products that are displayed at their private expositions?
No. Let them go out of business if they are unresponsive to their sponsors and customers.

Some other firm will step in and organize a similar show in the future, without political correctness.
John Galt

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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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Two things:
The majority of Pennsylvanians voted for Barack Obama. That's why he won the state. Don't be a sore loser. Don't start a gun battle with the folks who live in the cities over it.
And Obama didn't say what you think he said.
Gun control is a losing political issue in Pennsylvania.

The Democrat nominee for Governor in 2014 should make weapons bans a central theme of his/her campaign.
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John Galt wrote:
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Privatization of the liquor stores will bring Pennsylvania out of the dark ages and in line with other states.
Here's hoping Governor Corbett follows through.
But the unholy alliance of Bible-thumpers and unionized liquor store clerks seems to scare the legislators.
So IOW the only thing we need government for is things that lose money--all the time taking in less taxes than we need, correct Dagwood?
John Galt

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skip the pee pee wrote:
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So IOW the only thing we need government for is things that lose money--all the time taking in less taxes than we need, correct Dagwood?
Most of the revenue from the liquor store operation comes from taxes, which would be unaffected by privatization. In fact, increased sales by not driving customers out of state would increase tax revenue.

Any "profit" from store operation is an illusion because it does not account for future pension costs.

Surely your register skills are transferable from a state liquor store to a supermarket, where you can still ring up the alcohol sales.
Lou Schwartz

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First of all, give an honor to God and our Lord and Savior Barack Obama.
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Court: Obama NLRB recess appointments unconstitutional
Posted by Natalie Jennings on January 25, 2013 at 11:44 am
A federal appeals court panel unanimously agreed that President Obama violated the Constitution last year by appointing three members to the National Labor Relations Board while the Senate was not technically in recess,
circumventing Senate Republicans who had held up his picks for months.
The D.C. circuit court’s ruling could also raise questions about Obama’s recess appointment of Richard Cordray to lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
which is being challenged in a separate case.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-poli...
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"Second Term Begins With a Sweeping Agenda for Equality,"
ran the eight-column banner in which The Washington Post captured the essence of Obama's second inaugural.
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There he declared:
"What binds this nation together ... what makes us exceptional — what makes us American — is our allegiance to an idea, articulated in a declaration made more than two centuries ago."
Obama then quoted our Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Our "union," Obama went on, was "founded on the principles of liberty and equality."
Nice prose — and transparent nonsense.
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And Obama didn't say what you think he said.
It's only unconstitutional for Obama appointments. You're such a tool, booster.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/fl...
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John Galt wrote:
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Most of the revenue from the liquor store operation comes from taxes, which would be unaffected by privatization. In fact, increased sales by not driving customers out of state would increase tax revenue.
Any "profit" from store operation is an illusion because it does not account for future pension costs.
Surely your register skills are transferable from a state liquor store to a supermarket, where you can still ring up the alcohol sales.
I'm not going to challenge you to prove it but to simply revisit what you've claimed. Are you saying profit above supplier cost is actually less profit from tax income on a fat bottle of Jack Daniels?

Even if that's true then we need to follow the lead of companies such as GE and WalMart and tell suppliers what we'll pay and for them to be happy with it or we'll find another supplier.(Or in the case of the Jack Daniels brand, simply refuse to carry it in our state stores.)

What say you?
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John Galt wrote:
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Gun control is a losing political issue in Pennsylvania.
The Democrat nominee for Governor in 2014 should make weapons bans a central theme of his/her campaign.
Ed Rendell won 2 terms and supported stricter gun laws.
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John Galt wrote:
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Most of the revenue from the liquor store operation comes from taxes, which would be unaffected by privatization. In fact, increased sales by not driving customers out of state would increase tax revenue.
Any "profit" from store operation is an illusion because it does not account for future pension costs.
Surely your register skills are transferable from a state liquor store to a supermarket, where you can still ring up the alcohol sales.
Also all things being equal for comparison...they're not. Heck the state could just halve pay and drop insurance coverage and vacation time and negate pensions for it's workers if the bottom line was just a profit/loss analysis.

As to the economy as a whole how do you see less money circulating affecting that? Or are you claiming that the British company will spend the equal or even more in the US economy?
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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Are you saying profit above supplier cost is actually less profit from tax income on a fat bottle of Jack Daniels?
Topix is on the blink again ;)

Should have read "Are you saying that profit above and beyond that made after supplier's cost is less than the income from tax on a fat bottle of Jack Daniels?"
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By Associated Press, Jan 25, 2013 5:06 PM EST

AP Updated: Friday, January 25, 5:06 PM
The Standard & Poor’s 500 index closed above 1,500 for the first time since the start of the Great Recession in 2007, lifted by strong earnings from Procter & Gamble and Starbucks. The Dow Jones industrial average and the Nasdaq also closed higher.

The Dow Jones industrial average rose 70.65 points, or 0.5 percent, to close at 13,895.98.

The Standard & Poor’s 500 index rose 8.14 points, or 0.54 percent, to 1,502.96.

The Nasdaq composite rose 19.33 points, or 0.62 percent, to 3,149.71.

For the week:

The Dow is up 246.28, or 1.8 percent.

The S&P 500 is up 16.98, or 1.1 percent.

The Nasdaq is up 15, or 0.5 percent.

For the year 2013

Jobs coming back, housing coming back,people have more money in their pockets

Thanks President Obama,,,,,,,,,,

" People are investing into the stock market,they have faith in the growing economy and this news means great savings for people in their 401 K portfolios,say James Newman of New Hampshire University. " "I also think the election of Barack Obama plays a big factor in the boost to the economy".
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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I'm not going to challenge you to prove it but to simply revisit what you've claimed. Are you saying profit above supplier cost is actually less profit from tax income on a fat bottle of Jack Daniels?
Even if that's true then we need to follow the lead of companies such as GE and WalMart and tell suppliers what we'll pay and for them to be happy with it or we'll find another supplier.(Or in the case of the Jack Daniels brand, simply refuse to carry it in our state stores.)
What say you?
Tax revenue accounts for 80% of the "profit" from the PA state liquor stores.

Pennsylvania probably gets very good prices from suppliers, but consumers pay very high prices because of high Pennsylvania taxes and extremely high liquor store overhead.

I can tell you that all liquor prices here in California are about 30% less than in Pennsylvania, and wine prices even lower than that.

Plus we have much larger selection and the convenience of shopping in the supermarket. Or at Sam's Club or Costco.

As for the Jack Daniels, only a Democrat would oppose individual freedom of choice.

Time to get out of the Dark Ages.
John Galt

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skip the pee pee wrote:
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Also all things being equal for comparison...they're not. Heck the state could just halve pay and drop insurance coverage and vacation time and negate pensions for it's workers if the bottom line was just a profit/loss analysis.
As to the economy as a whole how do you see less money circulating affecting that? Or are you claiming that the British company will spend the equal or even more in the US economy?
What does any of that have to do with the state liquor stores?
John Galt

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skip the pee pee wrote:
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Topix is on the blink again ;)
Should have read "Are you saying that profit above and beyond that made after supplier's cost is less than the income from tax on a fat bottle of Jack Daniels?"
Pennsylvania has an odd structure for pricing liquor, but it is a fact that 80% of the "profit" is tax revenue and not retail profit.
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John Galt wrote:
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Tax revenue accounts for 80% of the "profit" from the PA state liquor stores.
Pennsylvania probably gets very good prices from suppliers, but consumers pay very high prices because of high Pennsylvania taxes and extremely high liquor store overhead.
I can tell you that all liquor prices here in California are about 30% less than in Pennsylvania, and wine prices even lower than that.
Plus we have much larger selection and the convenience of shopping in the supermarket. Or at Sam's Club or Costco.
As for the Jack Daniels, only a Democrat would oppose individual freedom of choice.
Time to get out of the Dark Ages.
You sound not just anti-free market, i.e. what the market will bear regarding pricing, but also like a first year college student with the trite John Galt sig.(BTW my first son's middle name is Atlas in large measure due to the book ;)

BTW not matter who is in the market--the government, Aunt Ethel, Goober Joe or whoever--the market will bear what the market will bear. Or not.

As to individual freedom of choice may we not choose government?
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AP Updated: Friday, January 25, 5:06 PM
The Standard & Poor’s 500 index closed above 1,500 for the first time since the start of the Great Recession in 2007, lifted by strong earnings from Procter & Gamble and Starbucks. The Dow Jones industrial average and the Nasdaq also closed higher.

The Dow Jones industrial average rose 70.65 points, or 0.5 percent, to close at 13,895.98.

The Standard & Poor’s 500 index rose 8.14 points, or 0.54 percent, to 1,502.96.

The Nasdaq composite rose 19.33 points, or 0.62 percent, to 3,149.71.

For the week:

The Dow is up 246.28, or 1.8 percent.

The S&P 500 is up 16.98, or 1.1 percent.

The Nasdaq is up 15, or 0.5 percent.

For the year 2013

Jobs coming back, housing coming back,people have more money in their pockets

Thanks President Obama,,,,,,,,,,

" People are investing into the stock market,they have faith in the growing economy and this news means great savings for people in their 401 K portfolios,say James Newman of New Hampshire University. " "I also think the election of Barack Obama plays a big factor in the boost to the economy"..........
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