Franklin Templeton

United States

#45776 Jan 16, 2013
Where's the outrage...

So the NRA runs frign everything....

Many paid off politicians all loyal to a mob armed to the hilt...
In order to sell more bullets that end up massacering kids now...

They're all bought and paid for now...

Sickening if you ask me....

Democracy is losing to the mob....trying to overrule our elected officials including our democratically elected president.
Chrs

Pittsburgh, PA

#45777 Jan 16, 2013
I'm constipated....

Since: Oct 12

West Mifflin, Pa

#45778 Jan 16, 2013
While the GOP hollers "cut back on spending!",,,,,,,,,under the Bush Administration back in 2007 spends 220K bathroom upgrade for interior secretary's private shithouse..........
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The Interior Department said the renovations were needed because of water leaks ( faucet was dripping ) in the old bathroom and said upgrades happened before President Barack Obama and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar took office.

"Let's cut entitlements for these freeloaders getting handouts!"
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"Too many handouts for the poor and lazy wasting taxpayer money!!" - Paul Ryan

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More sales at Home Depot later this week!!!!
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Super "special" 2 day sale on bathroom refrigerators........

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Since: Oct 12

West Mifflin, Pa

#45781 Jan 16, 2013
Chrs wrote:
I'm constipated....
Dan the Man is ready to unplug you.
right off

Erie, PA

#45782 Jan 16, 2013
TaxNoMore wrote:
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Obama’s 2006 speech on the debt limit
“Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.
It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills.”
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Here, Obama is sounding a bit Tea Partyish.
“It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies.
Over the past five years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.
That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’
That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers.”
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Dear Leader is very smart.
And he was right. The Bush tax breaks and 2 wars are the main reasons that the U.S. debt is where it's at.

http://www.fdbetancor.com/mythbusters/myth-2-...
George W

Levittown, PA

#45783 Jan 16, 2013
There is only one good one and that is the one hanging at the end of a rope. You people need to get over it. Crying about this crap will drive you nuts.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#45785 Jan 16, 2013
How the F!@# can this Corbett guy sell the Lottery to a UK company on the sly, and no one is talking about it? This is the "governor" topic right, so lets get back on topic for a minute.

If Rendell pulled this, the conservatives would be in a tizzy. So we can't privatize the state stores, but the Lottery gets sold to a foreign company without a bidding process?

Come on.
Franklin Templeton

Washington, DC

#45787 Jan 16, 2013
Effington wrote:
How the F!@# can this Corbett guy sell the Lottery to a UK company on the sly, and no one is talking about it? This is the "governor" topic right, so lets get back on topic for a minute.
If Rendell pulled this, the conservatives would be in a tizzy. So we can't privatize the state stores, but the Lottery gets sold to a foreign company without a bidding process?
Come on.
You are 100% correct....where's the outrage vwhen these Tea Baggin crazies start acting like the true greedy bastards that they are. The Koch brothers etc. back these kinda people. Once they get in they are so friggin corrupt. They are going to destroy everything without winceing an eyelash. As long as they get some payola.

I hate the Pennsylvania mafia that ran all the numbers racquets before the lottery. These small town thugs became like little monsters in their respective towns....their power over these towns have been dimininished considerably by the state run lottery and the internet...

But now the big Corbett mafia is in place backed by his Tea Party friends will now be usurping the corruption wing of the Pennsylvania crime organization I guess....

What a louse he is for doing this...I used to play the lottery but I will never play it again...

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#45788 Jan 16, 2013
I didn't really want my post to become a blanket condemnation of the Tea Party, or some sort of proclamation of a "Pennsylvania Mafia," which is inherently hilarious for someone from the NY/NJ area, but also thanks to the ridiculously stupid, awesomely bad "Amish Mafia" show that people seem to love.

But yeah, this just screams of hypocritical.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45791 Jan 16, 2013
Ray wrote:
I sure hope the Ravens beat the Pats this weekend...
Why would anybody be a fan of a team led by a murderer?

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#45792 Jan 16, 2013
Effington wrote:
How the F!@# can this Corbett guy sell the Lottery to a UK company on the sly, and no one is talking about it? This is the "governor" topic right, so lets get back on topic for a minute.
If Rendell pulled this, the conservatives would be in a tizzy. So we can't privatize the state stores, but the Lottery gets sold to a foreign company without a bidding process?
Come on.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks selling the lottery smells like a personal money grab.

If this goes through, what are the odds Corbett becomes an "advisor" to that British Company when he's out of office?

My guess is the same as picking the numbers from last week's Powerball.

John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45793 Jan 16, 2013
Effington wrote:
How the F!@# can this Corbett guy sell the Lottery to a UK company on the sly, and no one is talking about it? This is the "governor" topic right, so lets get back on topic for a minute.
If Rendell pulled this, the conservatives would be in a tizzy. So we can't privatize the state stores, but the Lottery gets sold to a foreign company without a bidding process?
Come on.
The lottery is not being sold. This is just a management contract.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45794 Jan 16, 2013
Franklin Templeton wrote:
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You are 100% correct....where's the outrage vwhen these Tea Baggin crazies start acting like the true greedy bastards that they are. The Koch brothers etc. back these kinda people. Once they get in they are so friggin corrupt. They are going to destroy everything without winceing an eyelash. As long as they get some payola.
I hate the Pennsylvania mafia that ran all the numbers racquets before the lottery. These small town thugs became like little monsters in their respective towns....their power over these towns have been dimininished considerably by the state run lottery and the internet...
But now the big Corbett mafia is in place backed by his Tea Party friends will now be usurping the corruption wing of the Pennsylvania crime organization I guess....
What a louse he is for doing this...I used to play the lottery but I will never play it again...
Only idiots play the lottery (in any state), but it does get the poor to pay their fair share of the taxes.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#45795 Jan 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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The lottery is not being sold. This is just a management contract.
And with a wave of your hand and some perty words, it's all ok now.

Let's take a far fetched unlikely scenario...

The "management contract" turns out to be horribly mismanaged.

The lottery money is running out and they can't afford to pay out the annuity payments. In fact, that pension, err lottery fund was raided to pay for current operations, including huge bonuses for the C level execs. Taxpayer bailout to the rescue.

Who should I be angry with?

The state government! They sold it, err, management contracted it out! And the non-lottery taxpayers have to pay!

I know. That scenario would never happen nor has anything similar ever happened in the last 12 minutes.

At the very least, with the state running everything with the lottery, if it goes belly up, we know exactly who to blame.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#45797 Jan 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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Only idiots play the lottery (in any state), but it does get the poor to pay their fair share of the taxes.
Meh. I'll play every once in a while for entertainment purposes.

Like a lot of things, you have to pay to play if you want to hit it big.

Oh, and the poor paying their fair share of taxes thing. Good luck squeezing blood out of that stone.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45798 Jan 16, 2013
greymouser wrote:
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And with a wave of your hand and some perty words, it's all ok now.
Let's take a far fetched unlikely scenario...
The "management contract" turns out to be horribly mismanaged.
The lottery money is running out and they can't afford to pay out the annuity payments. In fact, that pension, err lottery fund was raided to pay for current operations, including huge bonuses for the C level execs. Taxpayer bailout to the rescue.
Who should I be angry with?
The state government! They sold it, err, management contracted it out! And the non-lottery taxpayers have to pay!
I know. That scenario would never happen nor has anything similar ever happened in the last 12 minutes.
At the very least, with the state running everything with the lottery, if it goes belly up, we know exactly who to blame.
Clearly, you don't understand management contracts.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45799 Jan 16, 2013
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
And with a wave of your hand and some perty words, it's all ok now.
Let's take a far fetched unlikely scenario...
The "management contract" turns out to be horribly mismanaged.
The lottery money is running out and they can't afford to pay out the annuity payments. In fact, that pension, err lottery fund was raided to pay for current operations, including huge bonuses for the C level execs. Taxpayer bailout to the rescue.
Who should I be angry with?
The state government! They sold it, err, management contracted it out! And the non-lottery taxpayers have to pay!
I know. That scenario would never happen nor has anything similar ever happened in the last 12 minutes.
At the very least, with the state running everything with the lottery, if it goes belly up, we know exactly who to blame.
By the way, I would assume that the annuity payments are relatively minor because most winners take the lump sum payment.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45800 Jan 16, 2013
TaxNoMore wrote:
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Why don't you sell those stupid idiotic state stores along with about 4,000 worthless overpaid public sector union pigs.
Because then liquor would cost about 30% less, as it does here in California. Not to mention having a far larger selection of beer, wine, and liquor and being able to buy all three at the supermarket. As well as being able to buy beer by the six-pack instead of by the case.

Why would anybody want that savings and convenience and lose the opportunity to deal with those wonderful people at the state liquor stores?
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#45801 Jan 16, 2013
greymouser wrote:
<quoted text>
Meh. I'll play every once in a while for entertainment purposes.
Like a lot of things, you have to pay to play if you want to hit it big.
Oh, and the poor paying their fair share of taxes thing. Good luck squeezing blood out of that stone.
Only fools, mostly the poor, would gamble with a 50% gross return. Even the Mafia paid 60% for the numbers.

The lottery mostly sucks welfare money and Social Security checks from the poor. The wealthy are wealthy because they are smarter that that.

“Right click Left click Yay!”

Since: Dec 10

Nehwon

#45802 Jan 16, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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By the way, I would assume that the annuity payments are relatively minor because most winners take the lump sum payment.
My google-fu is weak. You'd think that finding the percentage of winners who takes the lump sum vs. annuity would be an easy search.

And the question there boils down to how well you can invest the lump sum and get a larger sum of money over the course of years vs. the annuity.

If the jackpot is big enough, it's really a moot point when you think about it. Either way, your basic needs should be met.

After that, it becomes a matter of greed. I only got 20 mil from the annuity but if I took the lump sum and invested it, I could have had 30 mil!

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