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Marissa T girl

Reading, PA

#42589 Nov 16, 2012
vampire wrote:
have you heard that hostee/twinkie is closing their door and 18,500 are losing their job! thank the union! yes siree, things are getting better!
two hedge funds that own Hostess ran the company into the ground. They've looted it as much as they can, giving Hostess executives stunning raises this year (the CEO got a 300% raise). Now they've made insane demands of their labor which already took the brunt of the 2004 bankruptcy, savings that were never put back into the company. The owners are framing the unions, plain and simple.
Serendipity

Mckeesport, PA

#42590 Nov 16, 2012
Marissa T girl wrote:
<quoted text> two hedge funds that own Hostess ran the company into the ground. They've looted it as much as they can, giving Hostess executives stunning raises this year (the CEO got a 300% raise). Now they've made insane demands of their labor which already took the brunt of the 2004 bankruptcy, savings that were never put back into the company. The owners are framing the unions, plain and simple.
According to the article, some started to cross the lines in spite of union threats to be fined for doing so. But, it wasn't enough to keep the company afloat.

So yeah, they showed 'em, now the owners still have their retirement and the workers, instead of an 8% cut in pay and bennies, now get to have a 100% cut in pay and bennies. And, you know, there's just lots and lots of jobs out there to just go and grab.

Should've taken the cut in pay, better than no job at all....
Serendipity

Mckeesport, PA

#42591 Nov 16, 2012
marissa T girl

Reading, PA

#42592 Nov 16, 2012
Serendipity wrote:
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According to the article, some started to cross the lines in spite of union threats to be fined for doing so. But, it wasn't enough to keep the company afloat.
So yeah, they showed 'em, now the owners still have their retirement and the workers, instead of an 8% cut in pay and bennies, now get to have a 100% cut in pay and bennies. And, you know, there's just lots and lots of jobs out there to just go and grab.
Should've taken the cut in pay, better than no job at all....
Ya those morons should have taken more pay cuts, cuts in health care, time off etc. Hell, people should work for free and be glad they are working. Also stop complaining when they make min wage, working 60 to 70 hours a week while management takes 300% pay increase. Your right Hostess should have a dedicated workforce, what is the problem?

Get freakin real. People complain because Wal Mart goes to third word countries where people are paid pennies yet don't have a problem with corporate america being turned into the same thing by the greedy.

Unions WERE on their way out because working conditions had gotten better. Now there is once again a need for the unions to stand up for the middle class.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#42593 Nov 16, 2012
Serendipity wrote:
Should've taken the cut in pay, better than no job at all....
Maybe not...

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Hostess strike continues despite threat of liquidation

Some of the workers said bring on liquidation. They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic Hostess brands and the plant in Biddeford would be continue to operate but under a different owner.
Minnie

West Mifflin, PA

#42594 Nov 16, 2012
Serendipity wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the article, some started to cross the lines in spite of union threats to be fined for doing so. But, it wasn't enough to keep the company afloat.
So yeah, they showed 'em, now the owners still have their retirement and the workers, instead of an 8% cut in pay and bennies, now get to have a 100% cut in pay and bennies. And, you know, there's just lots and lots of jobs out there to just go and grab.
Should've taken the cut in pay, better than no job at all....
this holds true for teachers also? offer lower pay to work?
Fred M

West Mifflin, PA

#42595 Nov 16, 2012
The free market has spoken; not sure why the employees are taking the blame. Seems like Hostess couldn't stay competitive and the cost of labor is only a piece of the puzzle. I thought you people who read the WSJ understood economics? Maybe not. By the way, the new CEO is a hatchet man so no surprise this is where this ended up. There is now a convenient scapegoat that all you righties like to blame everything on for Hostess closing. Yes it's those disgusting people who want a living wage, health care, safe workplaces, vacations, etc. Man, those little people want everything!
Serendipity

Mckeesport, PA

#42596 Nov 16, 2012
Here's the thing, I know there are many folks out there today, who would love to have that job at that "cut rate" salary. so, greedy or not, if the owners can't sustain the profitability of the company, they cannot remain in business.

Sure, sales are down, more competition, rising costs.Sometimes companies must cut back, But, the way I see it in this case, the union are the ones who are refusing to budge, and therefore, over 18,000 workers are now unemployed.
Lay the blame where you will, but, these are tough economic times, sometimes you gotta compromise.
bobby64

Charlotte, NC

#42597 Nov 16, 2012
The sky is falling tea bags so get ready dumb asses.
bobby64

Charlotte, NC

#42598 Nov 16, 2012
Compromise is a dirty word. You must not of got the tea bag demands yet,huh? Go figure. You will soon catch up
The Minister of Truth

Alexandria, VA

#42599 Nov 16, 2012
Serendipity wrote:
Here's the thing, I know there are many folks out there today, who would love to have that job at that "cut rate" salary. so, greedy or not, if the owners can't sustain the profitability of the company, they cannot remain in business.
Sure, sales are down, more competition, rising costs.Sometimes companies must cut back, But, the way I see it in this case, the union are the ones who are refusing to budge, and therefore, over 18,000 workers are now unemployed.
Lay the blame where you will, but, these are tough economic times, sometimes you gotta compromise.
Yes, and Papa John could compromise by not giving away a million free pizzas and instead do the right thing and put the cost of that giveaway towards treating his employees like human beings - a.k.a. provide healthcare. Instead he'd rather use Obamacare as a boogeyman excuse to allow him to continue being a cheapskate towards the people that are the backbone of his fortune.

He said in the past Obamacare would force him to increase the price of his shitty pizzas by 14 cents. WOW that is just too expensive! My $12 shitty pizza now costs $12.14! The horror! I would definitely buy a shitty pizza for $12, but add 14 cents to that and you've crossed the line, buddy!
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#42600 Nov 16, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe not...
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Hostess strike continues despite threat of liquidation
Some of the workers said bring on liquidation. They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic Hostess brands and the plant in Biddeford would be continue to operate but under a different owner.
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Hostess is to big to fail.

It's time your gay Kenyan stepped in and saved the Twinkies.
Archie Bunker

Chambersburg, PA

#42601 Nov 16, 2012
Edith! There was no twinkies in my lunch box today! Those commie pinkos are at it again!
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#42602 Nov 16, 2012
bobby64 wrote:
Compromise is a dirty word. You must not of got the tea bag demands yet,huh? Go figure. You will soon catch up
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My!

some of those Ho-Hos make some cash

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Search 101 Hostess Brands Salaries

http://www.careerbliss.com/salary/hostess-bra...

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Hostess is to big to fail.

No more Snowballs?

OooBaaaaaaaaaaaaMaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa!!!!

Send in the commie HOLDER, force Hostess to pay.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#42603 Nov 16, 2012
The Minister of Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and Papa John could compromise by not giving away a million free pizzas and instead do the right thing and put the cost of that giveaway towards treating his employees like human beings - a.k.a. provide healthcare. Instead he'd rather use Obamacare as a boogeyman excuse to allow him to continue being a cheapskate towards the people that are the backbone of his fortune.
He said in the past Obamacare would force him to increase the price of his shitty pizzas by 14 cents. WOW that is just too expensive! My $12 shitty pizza now costs $12.14! The horror! I would definitely buy a shitty pizza for $12, but add 14 cents to that and you've crossed the line, buddy!
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President Obama took office in the first quarter of 2009, when median household income was $54,797.63.

As of the last quarter of 2011, median household income was $52,377.21.

This was the interval Mr. Zandi suggested using to check Mr. Romneyís statement, and it shows an income drop of $2,420.42.

Thatís not $3,000, of course, but itís still pretty bad.

One could also reasonably argue that it might be more appropriate to use the quarter before Mr. Obama took office as the baseline, rather than the quarter in which he was sworn in.

In the fourth quarter of 2008, median household income was about $55,380.17.

Starting from that quarter gives us a decline of $3,002.96, almost exactly the number Mr. Romney cited.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/ ...

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treating his employees like human beings - a.k.a. provide healthcare.
Marissa T girl

Reading, PA

#42605 Nov 16, 2012
Fred M wrote:
The free market has spoken; not sure why the employees are taking the blame. Seems like Hostess couldn't stay competitive and the cost of labor is only a piece of the puzzle. I thought you people who read the WSJ understood economics? Maybe not. By the way, the new CEO is a hatchet man so no surprise this is where this ended up. There is now a convenient scapegoat that all you righties like to blame everything on for Hostess closing. Yes it's those disgusting people who want a living wage, health care, safe workplaces, vacations, etc. Man, those little people want everything!
CHEERS!!!!!!
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#42606 Nov 16, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>

Maybe not...

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Hostess strike continues despite threat of liquidation

Some of the workers said bring on liquidation.

They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic Hostess brands and the plant in Biddeford would be continue to operate but under a different owner.

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bring on liquidation

They hope that would mean another company may buy some of the iconic
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General Motors / Chrysler brands
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and the plant in Detroit would continue to operate but under a different owner.

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Is that how it works dannyboy?

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#42607 Nov 16, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the kind of dumbass nonsense you post when you live in the failed alternate rightwing reality created by the rightwing echo-chamber.
Educate your ignorant ass on what the ACA actually does before you say stupid shit like this.
Ever since LBJ declared a war on poverty the parasites in the U.S. have been consuming the host. Well, parasites, the host is finally fighting back. You made your mistake when you chose the side of the socialist instead of the capitalist. Your mistake was the failure to recognize the fact that socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.

Since: Sep 12

Seattle, WA

#42608 Nov 16, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Google is your friend. Look it up, moron.
LMAO...Dan the Mans new response when he cannot back up his BS statements. I kinda liked his old response....GET BENT!

Ever since LBJ declared a war on poverty the parasites in the U.S. have been consuming the host. Well, parasites, the host is finally fighting back. You made your mistake when you chose the side of the socialist instead of the capitalist. Your mistake was the failure to recognize the fact that socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.

Obama's well is going dry. I bet he will be forced to tax those making under $250,000.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#42609 Nov 16, 2012
Route Sales Representative Salaries at Hostess Brands

The guy that drives dat truck around to all da stops?

38K to 78K

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Hostess is to big to fail.

Send in the commie HOLDER, force Hostess to pay.

OooBaaaaaaaaaaaaMaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaa!!!!

Save da twinkies!!!!!!!

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