OSHA investigating at R.H. Sheppard Co.

OSHA investigating at R.H. Sheppard Co.

There are 137 comments on the Evening Sun story from May 23, 2011, titled OSHA investigating at R.H. Sheppard Co.. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration is investigating an incident Monday morning at R.H. Sheppard Co.

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Anonymous

Hanover, PA

#81 May 26, 2011
OSHA is a pain for everyone, in my experience. You make it look perfect for them and hope they go away soon enough so you can get back to doing what you were doing (work). You have good arguments and all but I'm with BMW on this one.

"The only way to avoid accidents is to stay at home and don't work "

There's some truth to that. Just like an automobile, crap happens. Not all avoidable. Management that have no clue about actually working in production think the procedures and safety measures are all practical yet want you to keep up the production. There are some ridiculous safety measures that hold up your production horribly. I partly blame management like this, they're not understanding when it comes to safety and quality work at the hit of lower production.

I've hated it throughout every job I've had. From restaurant to factory. They'd nail you for not even a palm full of dirt on the floor. It rolls downhill. They get fined/in trouble then you get treated like hell for the next three months.
Shocked in York_PA

York, PA

#82 May 26, 2011
Desi wrote:
Having worked in the chemical industry for 40+ years this "should never happen". It's doubtful a written lock out procedure wasn't in place.
If I had to guess I'd say a shortcut was taken.
You, and alot of others on here are so clueless. Unless you know the affected person and all the details, finger pointing and assumptions shouldn't be done.
Shocked in York_PA

York, PA

#83 May 26, 2011
apple wrote:
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Really? Bet the info was faxed to the Dr's offfice ASAP. Tell ya what make me an appt and explain I have no insurance, will there be humanity when you also tell them I am poor? Will the Doc see me then?
Ppl go to the ER all the time and your in a emergancy and they want your insurance info so yes EVEN during emergancys they all want their money.
You are heartless!
Desi

Pearland, TX

#84 May 26, 2011
Shocked in York_PA wrote:
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You, and alot of others on here are so clueless. Unless you know the affected person and all the details, finger pointing and assumptions shouldn't be done.
Besure to let me know what the investigation reveals.......as stated previously it's unlikely the company didn't have a lockout procedure and probably involved a shortcut being taken, either by the injured employee or someone else.

Following Lock, Tag and the most important step "Try", something like this injury can't happen if following the procedure to the letter.
Jennifer from the Block

Spring Grove, PA

#85 May 26, 2011
i go fishin wrote:
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Stand your ground honey! One thing I cant stand is when you have a business owner who couldn't care less about the hard working man/woman. There must have been a problem in his back round to be so hostile against OSHA. No problems = no fines period. Im sure he's the one with his feet propped up on the desk snoozing while his workers are comming to work sick as dogs just to put food on the table for his family. Really his employees built his business NOT the other way around.
****BMW****- what does it matter if someone sells used cars? It's a job so really you look down on people for their jobs? HA imagine how he treats his employees? Id ask what the true meaning of pathetic is but you're doing a wonderful job on defining that word on your own.
Thanks. I try. It just really annoys me when some on here take things to the extreme. A gentleman was severly hurt, no matter how, why or who was to blame, it is the responsibility of the business to notify OSHA and hopefully management and the officials with OSHA can prevent it from happening again. I think those that try to hide things from OSHA are the ones on here crying about OSHA. If a business has employees that follow safety guidelines, and the equipment is inspected and working properly, then they should have no problems with such serious injuries and they will not have to deal with OSHA.
Jennifer from the Block

Spring Grove, PA

#86 May 26, 2011
Shocked in York_PA wrote:
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You are heartless!
I so agree. This poster is comparing apples to oranges.
BMW

Hanover, PA

#87 May 26, 2011
i go fishin wrote:
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Stand your ground honey! One thing I cant stand is when you have a business owner who couldn't care less about the hard working man/woman. There must have been a problem in his back round to be so hostile against OSHA. No problems = no fines period. Im sure he's the one with his feet propped up on the desk snoozing while his workers are comming to work sick as dogs just to put food on the table for his family. Really his employees built his business NOT the other way around.
****BMW****- what does it matter if someone sells used cars? It's a job so really you look down on people for their jobs? HA imagine how he treats his employees? Id ask what the true meaning of pathetic is but you're doing a wonderful job on defining that word on your own.
Jenny has no ground to stand on. She likes to insult people and make fun of them when she is not right, or when she doesn't have a clue.

About the used car salesman comment; it was an analogy of someone who will never come into contact with an OSHA inspector. This is the same as you and Jen. Therefore, you'd have no reason to know about OSHA and manufacturing.

I can tell you this...a maintenance technician has to do very dangerous work. They work under the most horrible conditions. Sometimes working on wet floors, oily floors, walking, stooping, crawling....

Always lifting or moving sometimes heavy objects in tight places. In the winter in the snow they might have to work on the roof. Sometimes they need to work in confined spaces such as an elevator shaft, or, in crawl spaces under the floors where no one even knows about that space. They need to do plumbing in crawl spaces where there is no room to stand and walk.

They climb high to do electrical work and sometimes need to do a balancing act. A maintenance worker is a huge asset to any company.

It's easy to get hurt on a job. Heck, you can pull a back muscle by bending over in the break room to pick up that soft drink out of the machine. Accidents are going to happen no matter what. Easy to slip and fall in the wash up room at quitting time.

I could go on and on but Jen can fill you all in on the rest since her father knows best.
Jennifer from the Block

Spring Grove, PA

#88 May 26, 2011
Shocked in York_PA wrote:
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You are heartless!
I so agree.....This poster is comparing "rotten apples" to oranges.
BMW

Hanover, PA

#89 May 26, 2011
Jennifer from the Block wrote:
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Thanks. I try. It just really annoys me when some on here take things to the extreme. A gentleman was severly hurt, no matter how, why or who was to blame, it is the responsibility of the business to notify OSHA and hopefully management and the officials with OSHA can prevent it from happening again. I think those that try to hide things from OSHA are the ones on here crying about OSHA. If a business has employees that follow safety guidelines, and the equipment is inspected and working properly, then they should have no problems with such serious injuries and they will not have to deal with OSHA.
You are a riot. Ever think about going on Leno??????????
BMW

Hanover, PA

#90 May 26, 2011
Desi wrote:
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Besure to let me know what the investigation reveals.......as stated previously it's unlikely the company didn't have a lockout procedure and probably involved a shortcut being taken, either by the injured employee or someone else.
Following Lock, Tag and the most important step "Try", something like this injury can't happen if following the procedure to the letter.
A maintenance tech is the one that locks and tags the machine. There is only one key, and that key is in the hands of the person that locks it out.

On some machines, you can not check them while they are locked.
BMW

Hanover, PA

#91 May 26, 2011
Jennifer from the Block wrote:
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I so agree. This poster is comparing apples to oranges.
I think Shocked in York was talking about you----------for being clueless.

And you didn't even know it....
grateful

Gettysburg, PA

#92 May 26, 2011
This man would have died without the unbelievable efforts of the surgical team at Hanover Hospital, Dr. Bishoff, Dr. Nalavany and a very talented surgical nurse whose name I do not know. Also, the fire dept. and EMT staff assistance was invaluable. Imagine amputating an arm on a catwalk, in a dingy and dirty environment, twenty feet off the ground! Sometimes we forget what unselfish and talented people work right here
apple

Hanover, PA

#93 May 26, 2011
BMW wrote:
<quoted text>I think Shocked in York was talking about you----------for being clueless.
And you didn't even know it....
LMFAO! Shocked in york was commenting on MY post for stating the truth about DR'S want payment no matter what! I stated the FACT that even when you're in the ER they are hunting you down for ur insurance info. Sorry I'm called heartless BUT I tell the truth. Next time you have to go to a DR or the ER, count the minutes it takes once you arrive,to see how long it id before they want your insurance info. Plain and simple they want their money. Then when you say you have no insurance just wait till you get that big bill in the mail. Do they do the services free of charge? NO they want their money.
I think if you go back further in the posts you will clearly see that the post was for me. Now that you made a complete fool out of yourself read the posts before jumping all over people because right now you look ---------clueless
apple

Hanover, PA

#94 May 26, 2011
BMW read post 83... Maybe then you'll have a clue.
Desi

Pearland, TX

#95 May 26, 2011
BMW wrote:
<quoted text>A maintenance tech is the one that locks and tags the machine. There is only one key, and that key is in the hands of the person that locks it out.
On some machines, you can not check them while they are locked.
What we did......if the "try" portion of lock, tag, and try can't be confirmed by pushing the start button an electrician was called to confirm power was disconnected.

Actually......to confirm there are no interlocks you should "try" to see it run, lock, tag, and try again, then you have a 100% confirmed lockout. In many cases this is not practical because of causing further damage to equipment.

I hope the guy does well, he's in my prayers.
BMW

Hanover, PA

#96 May 26, 2011
apple wrote:
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LMFAO! Shocked in york was commenting on MY post for stating the truth about DR'S want payment no matter what! I stated the FACT that even when you're in the ER they are hunting you down for ur insurance info. Sorry I'm called heartless BUT I tell the truth. Next time you have to go to a DR or the ER, count the minutes it takes once you arrive,to see how long it id before they want your insurance info. Plain and simple they want their money. Then when you say you have no insurance just wait till you get that big bill in the mail. Do they do the services free of charge? NO they want their money.
I think if you go back further in the posts you will clearly see that the post was for me. Now that you made a complete fool out of yourself read the posts before jumping all over people because right now you look ---------clueless
I see you are proud of yourself. How many people did I jump on? Was it one...or two? Hope you can count that high....
BMW

Hanover, PA

#97 May 26, 2011
Desi wrote:
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What we did......if the "try" portion of lock, tag, and try can't be confirmed by pushing the start button an electrician was called to confirm power was disconnected.
Actually......to confirm there are no interlocks you should "try" to see it run, lock, tag, and try again, then you have a 100% confirmed lockout. In many cases this is not practical because of causing further damage to equipment.
I hope the guy does well, he's in my prayers.
Sounds like a union shop. Without a union, maintenance technicians are the people who put their own special lock on the breaker box to prevent operators and other employees from starting the machines.

I agree with you!
apple

Hanover, PA

#98 May 26, 2011
BMW wrote:
<quoted text>I think Shocked in York was talking about you----------for being clueless.
And you didn't even know it....
You added your cheap 2 cents and tried to throw a punch and you were wrong. Dear Lord how do you run a business?
Desi

Pearland, TX

#99 May 26, 2011
BMW wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like a union shop. Without a union, maintenance technicians are the people who put their own special lock on the breaker box to prevent operators and other employees from starting the machines.
I agree with you!
Actually it was a non-union plant.

We didn't allow group lockouts. Every person working on the equipment had a lock on the lockout box or disconnect with the key in their pocket, no handing off keys. The only time we allowed group lockouts was during a shutdown, at which time the supervisor for each craft would lock it out and each person covered by the lockout would sign in and out on a lockout sheet.

Another important point......anyone caught working on a piece of equipment without a lockout was subject to immediate termination.
I saw a guy with 21 years get fired because he was working on a screw feeder without locking it out.

The operator of the equipment was the first lock on and the last lock off. I could tell by looking at the disconnect or lockbox as to how many employees or contractors were working on a piece of equipment. For example: If you had two guys working on a pump there should be three locks on the disconnect, the two millwrights and the area operator.

We handled some very explosive material, vinyl chloride monomer worse than LPG. We also produced about 1800 tons of chlorine a day.

From a safety standpoint we had to get it right the first time.

Lator......:)
Thanks to the Team

Hanover, PA

#100 May 26, 2011
The surgical team from the hospital included Dr. Robert Bischoff, Dr. Crooks, Dr. Nalavany, an OR nurse, blood bank and EMS staff and fire department.

It is tragic the man lost his arm, but it was the only way to save his life. Disassembling the machine would have taken hours.

A challenge to the Editor of the Evening Sun:
Please do a follow-up article to publicly thank and commend the Hanover Hospital staff and provide an update on the status of the man.

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